How close is the San Diego housing market to the historical average?

[KSMountain]

To agree with some of the folks talking about the growth of this region…

I was born here in an unspecified year in the early 60’s.

When I was in 5th grade, we heard a stat in some film that SD was like the 18th largest city in the U.S. We were so surprised and excited by that! Imagine! It was almost like we were a major city!

Now of course that’s silly and SD is like the 8th or 6th largest city in the US, and there’s no need to wish to be bigger and any illusions of small town-ness are long long gone.

Back in those days all of P.B. had like 5 bars.

Anyone remember Tugs Tavern? Organ Power Pizza? The Old Ox? Hmm, it was something before that…

I recall when what is now Mira Mesa was one huge open space.

I read that traffic flow at the merge TRIPLED between the 80’s and the 90’s. Try to picture that rate of change for a moment and all it implies…

Back in the day, SD was thought of as a “Navy town” down in the corner of the country. It was a place to get a tattoo (on your bicep not your butt). For some reason folks just didn’t grasp the desirability of the place.

The secret of desirability is out now though and I don’t expect the anonymity genie to squeeze back into the bottle any time soon. So in that respect SD/sdrealtor are correct in my book.

Is this a thread jack? Certainly it’s fun to talk about old time San Diego…

Really it’s hard to overstate how much P.B. (e.g. Garnet) has changed w.r.t. the number of bars. Evidently the city council there had a major change of heart in the early 80’s. They suddenly grasped where *revenue* (lots of it) might come from…

On a related note – I remember when driving up the 5, you’d know when you got to Orange County because you saw… Oranges! Big groves, bordering the freeway. Those days are also long gone…

[KSMountain]

And on another related note:

Is it just me or didn’t La Jolla “use to be” nicer?

It just doesn’t at all seem to have the cachet that it once did. It’s hard to even picture the high traffic areas as desirable.

What the heck happened?

Seems like there’s been some tremendous mismanagement there.

Anyone agree/disagree?

[KSMountain]

And on another related note:

Is it just me or didn’t La Jolla “use to be” nicer?

It just doesn’t at all seem to have the cachet that it once did. It’s hard to even picture the high traffic areas as desirable.

What the heck happened?

Seems like there’s been some tremendous mismanagement there.

Anyone agree/disagree?

[KSMountain]

And on another related note:

Is it just me or didn’t La Jolla “use to be” nicer?

It just doesn’t at all seem to have the cachet that it once did. It’s hard to even picture the high traffic areas as desirable.

What the heck happened?

Seems like there’s been some tremendous mismanagement there.

Anyone agree/disagree?

[KSMountain]

And on another related note:

Is it just me or didn’t La Jolla “use to be” nicer?

It just doesn’t at all seem to have the cachet that it once did. It’s hard to even picture the high traffic areas as desirable.

What the heck happened?

Seems like there’s been some tremendous mismanagement there.

Anyone agree/disagree?

[KSMountain]

And on another related note:

Is it just me or didn’t La Jolla “use to be” nicer?

It just doesn’t at all seem to have the cachet that it once did. It’s hard to even picture the high traffic areas as desirable.

What the heck happened?

Seems like there’s been some tremendous mismanagement there.

Anyone agree/disagree?

[Rich Toscano]

Ed, I have always used the “regional economic data set” from SANDAG as it offers a lot of the info I need in one neat spreadsheet. I compared to BEA data and it looks like they are in lockstep but then started to diverge by a couple percent in 05 or thereabouts. Not sure what this is all about — I will look into it when I get some time. But it shouldn’t account for a big difference in aggregate…

Regarding income growing faster than CPI, this seems reasonable based on the shift in jobs here and economic growth in general (which would hopefully see incomes grow faster than the cost of living over time).

Rich

[Rich Toscano]

Ed, I have always used the “regional economic data set” from SANDAG as it offers a lot of the info I need in one neat spreadsheet. I compared to BEA data and it looks like they are in lockstep but then started to diverge by a couple percent in 05 or thereabouts. Not sure what this is all about — I will look into it when I get some time. But it shouldn’t account for a big difference in aggregate…

Regarding income growing faster than CPI, this seems reasonable based on the shift in jobs here and economic growth in general (which would hopefully see incomes grow faster than the cost of living over time).

Rich

[Rich Toscano]

Ed, I have always used the “regional economic data set” from SANDAG as it offers a lot of the info I need in one neat spreadsheet. I compared to BEA data and it looks like they are in lockstep but then started to diverge by a couple percent in 05 or thereabouts. Not sure what this is all about — I will look into it when I get some time. But it shouldn’t account for a big difference in aggregate…

Regarding income growing faster than CPI, this seems reasonable based on the shift in jobs here and economic growth in general (which would hopefully see incomes grow faster than the cost of living over time).

Rich

[Rich Toscano]

Ed, I have always used the “regional economic data set” from SANDAG as it offers a lot of the info I need in one neat spreadsheet. I compared to BEA data and it looks like they are in lockstep but then started to diverge by a couple percent in 05 or thereabouts. Not sure what this is all about — I will look into it when I get some time. But it shouldn’t account for a big difference in aggregate…

Regarding income growing faster than CPI, this seems reasonable based on the shift in jobs here and economic growth in general (which would hopefully see incomes grow faster than the cost of living over time).

Rich

[Rich Toscano]

Ed, I have always used the “regional economic data set” from SANDAG as it offers a lot of the info I need in one neat spreadsheet. I compared to BEA data and it looks like they are in lockstep but then started to diverge by a couple percent in 05 or thereabouts. Not sure what this is all about — I will look into it when I get some time. But it shouldn’t account for a big difference in aggregate…

Regarding income growing faster than CPI, this seems reasonable based on the shift in jobs here and economic growth in general (which would hopefully see incomes grow faster than the cost of living over time).

Rich

[UCGal]

KSM –
I also was born in an unspecified year in the early (very early) 60’s… Here in San Diego… grew up in Clairemont then UC. I didn’t pay attention to bars in PB till I had my first (fake) ID… Back then the two places young people went to drink in PB were Mothers and Jose Murpheys. Or to the Baccanal in Clairemont or the Spirit off of Morena. That was where the good music was.

I agree that someone figured out that bars = tax dollars and clustered them in PB.

I remember driving North east on 395 – before I-15 went through.

I have of vague memories of I-5 being US101 in the North county…

As far as La Jolla – growing up “La Jolla adjacent” with family and friends in La Jolla – the main change I see is that it is more developed now. Every place that can be built on – is built on.. My dad used to by suits from a Hong Kong tailor on Prospect… that type of business couldn’t survive these days because the real estate is too expensive. But a lot of La Jolla is exactly the same…

[UCGal]

KSM –
I also was born in an unspecified year in the early (very early) 60’s… Here in San Diego… grew up in Clairemont then UC. I didn’t pay attention to bars in PB till I had my first (fake) ID… Back then the two places young people went to drink in PB were Mothers and Jose Murpheys. Or to the Baccanal in Clairemont or the Spirit off of Morena. That was where the good music was.

I agree that someone figured out that bars = tax dollars and clustered them in PB.

I remember driving North east on 395 – before I-15 went through.

I have of vague memories of I-5 being US101 in the North county…

As far as La Jolla – growing up “La Jolla adjacent” with family and friends in La Jolla – the main change I see is that it is more developed now. Every place that can be built on – is built on.. My dad used to by suits from a Hong Kong tailor on Prospect… that type of business couldn’t survive these days because the real estate is too expensive. But a lot of La Jolla is exactly the same…

[UCGal]

KSM –
I also was born in an unspecified year in the early (very early) 60’s… Here in San Diego… grew up in Clairemont then UC. I didn’t pay attention to bars in PB till I had my first (fake) ID… Back then the two places young people went to drink in PB were Mothers and Jose Murpheys. Or to the Baccanal in Clairemont or the Spirit off of Morena. That was where the good music was.

I agree that someone figured out that bars = tax dollars and clustered them in PB.

I remember driving North east on 395 – before I-15 went through.

I have of vague memories of I-5 being US101 in the North county…

As far as La Jolla – growing up “La Jolla adjacent” with family and friends in La Jolla – the main change I see is that it is more developed now. Every place that can be built on – is built on.. My dad used to by suits from a Hong Kong tailor on Prospect… that type of business couldn’t survive these days because the real estate is too expensive. But a lot of La Jolla is exactly the same…

[UCGal]

KSM –
I also was born in an unspecified year in the early (very early) 60’s… Here in San Diego… grew up in Clairemont then UC. I didn’t pay attention to bars in PB till I had my first (fake) ID… Back then the two places young people went to drink in PB were Mothers and Jose Murpheys. Or to the Baccanal in Clairemont or the Spirit off of Morena. That was where the good music was.

I agree that someone figured out that bars = tax dollars and clustered them in PB.

I remember driving North east on 395 – before I-15 went through.

I have of vague memories of I-5 being US101 in the North county…

As far as La Jolla – growing up “La Jolla adjacent” with family and friends in La Jolla – the main change I see is that it is more developed now. Every place that can be built on – is built on.. My dad used to by suits from a Hong Kong tailor on Prospect… that type of business couldn’t survive these days because the real estate is too expensive. But a lot of La Jolla is exactly the same…

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