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  • January 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM #326849
    CDMA ENG
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    [quote=kewp][quote=CDMA ENG]
    But unless you paid your dues like some here did, to me your opinion doesnt count.

    I am sorry if you find that rude but I paid the price to wear the badge.

    And before another war of words break out. I have no problem with computer scientist degrees calling themselves engineers. They suffered the same beatings as the rest of us.

    Take care,

    CE
    [/quote]

    I usually refer to myself as a analyst or administrator. I also don’t care at all as I make the same/more money as the folks with the degree without having gone through the whole beatings thing.[/quote]

    Heheh…

    Shows who is the smarter of the two! 😛

    Plenty of people make more money for less work than an engineer. My downfall is that I could proably do something else make more money… But not enjoy it as much. And I do like money!

    I have worked plenty of jobs where the technicians make far more money than does the engineer.

    C’est la Vie!

    CE

    January 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM #326344
    sdduuuude
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    [quote=ibjames]In the higher levels of IT you have to know a lot about how things collaborate, hardware proficiencies, how software interacts with that hardware, how software interacts with each other. How machines/services interact with each other, data transfer methods etc. We also use tools, yes, not physical scopes and meters, but with other types of performance and data gathering tools.[/quote]

    You have lots of “this interacts with this” but to to my earlier point of networking – you have to know how people interact, too. That is what 90% of all engineers/techies I meet are lacking.

    Who’s an engineer? Anyone who gets paid to engineer things, IMHO. My education is top-notch, but I also believe the school of hard knocks is valid in some cases. I also know lots of degreed engineers that can’t engineer their way out of an open patio so I put little faith in that.

    How do you really know who is a good engineer – by asking their boss and co-workers. I put faith in people who are recommended by other good people – back to my very original point.

    sdr – don’t piss us off or we’ll infect your PC with virus that sells your listings below market value!

    January 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM #326682
    sdduuuude
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    [quote=ibjames]In the higher levels of IT you have to know a lot about how things collaborate, hardware proficiencies, how software interacts with that hardware, how software interacts with each other. How machines/services interact with each other, data transfer methods etc. We also use tools, yes, not physical scopes and meters, but with other types of performance and data gathering tools.[/quote]

    You have lots of “this interacts with this” but to to my earlier point of networking – you have to know how people interact, too. That is what 90% of all engineers/techies I meet are lacking.

    Who’s an engineer? Anyone who gets paid to engineer things, IMHO. My education is top-notch, but I also believe the school of hard knocks is valid in some cases. I also know lots of degreed engineers that can’t engineer their way out of an open patio so I put little faith in that.

    How do you really know who is a good engineer – by asking their boss and co-workers. I put faith in people who are recommended by other good people – back to my very original point.

    sdr – don’t piss us off or we’ll infect your PC with virus that sells your listings below market value!

    January 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM #326752
    sdduuuude
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    [quote=ibjames]In the higher levels of IT you have to know a lot about how things collaborate, hardware proficiencies, how software interacts with that hardware, how software interacts with each other. How machines/services interact with each other, data transfer methods etc. We also use tools, yes, not physical scopes and meters, but with other types of performance and data gathering tools.[/quote]

    You have lots of “this interacts with this” but to to my earlier point of networking – you have to know how people interact, too. That is what 90% of all engineers/techies I meet are lacking.

    Who’s an engineer? Anyone who gets paid to engineer things, IMHO. My education is top-notch, but I also believe the school of hard knocks is valid in some cases. I also know lots of degreed engineers that can’t engineer their way out of an open patio so I put little faith in that.

    How do you really know who is a good engineer – by asking their boss and co-workers. I put faith in people who are recommended by other good people – back to my very original point.

    sdr – don’t piss us off or we’ll infect your PC with virus that sells your listings below market value!

    January 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM #326770
    sdduuuude
    Participant

    [quote=ibjames]In the higher levels of IT you have to know a lot about how things collaborate, hardware proficiencies, how software interacts with that hardware, how software interacts with each other. How machines/services interact with each other, data transfer methods etc. We also use tools, yes, not physical scopes and meters, but with other types of performance and data gathering tools.[/quote]

    You have lots of “this interacts with this” but to to my earlier point of networking – you have to know how people interact, too. That is what 90% of all engineers/techies I meet are lacking.

    Who’s an engineer? Anyone who gets paid to engineer things, IMHO. My education is top-notch, but I also believe the school of hard knocks is valid in some cases. I also know lots of degreed engineers that can’t engineer their way out of an open patio so I put little faith in that.

    How do you really know who is a good engineer – by asking their boss and co-workers. I put faith in people who are recommended by other good people – back to my very original point.

    sdr – don’t piss us off or we’ll infect your PC with virus that sells your listings below market value!

    January 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM #326854
    sdduuuude
    Participant

    [quote=ibjames]In the higher levels of IT you have to know a lot about how things collaborate, hardware proficiencies, how software interacts with that hardware, how software interacts with each other. How machines/services interact with each other, data transfer methods etc. We also use tools, yes, not physical scopes and meters, but with other types of performance and data gathering tools.[/quote]

    You have lots of “this interacts with this” but to to my earlier point of networking – you have to know how people interact, too. That is what 90% of all engineers/techies I meet are lacking.

    Who’s an engineer? Anyone who gets paid to engineer things, IMHO. My education is top-notch, but I also believe the school of hard knocks is valid in some cases. I also know lots of degreed engineers that can’t engineer their way out of an open patio so I put little faith in that.

    How do you really know who is a good engineer – by asking their boss and co-workers. I put faith in people who are recommended by other good people – back to my very original point.

    sdr – don’t piss us off or we’ll infect your PC with virus that sells your listings below market value!

    January 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM #326349
    sdduuuude
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    [quote=CDMA ENG]I just try harder than most cause I went to ASU and ASU mostly sucks so I’m at a disadvantage.
    [/quote]

    I agree completely !

    January 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM #326687
    sdduuuude
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    [quote=CDMA ENG]I just try harder than most cause I went to ASU and ASU mostly sucks so I’m at a disadvantage.
    [/quote]

    I agree completely !

    January 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM #326757
    sdduuuude
    Participant

    [quote=CDMA ENG]I just try harder than most cause I went to ASU and ASU mostly sucks so I’m at a disadvantage.
    [/quote]

    I agree completely !

    January 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM #326775
    sdduuuude
    Participant

    [quote=CDMA ENG]I just try harder than most cause I went to ASU and ASU mostly sucks so I’m at a disadvantage.
    [/quote]

    I agree completely !

    January 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM #326859
    sdduuuude
    Participant

    [quote=CDMA ENG]I just try harder than most cause I went to ASU and ASU mostly sucks so I’m at a disadvantage.
    [/quote]

    I agree completely !

    January 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM #326354
    bradford
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    I know that we are looking for a programmer in San Diego, if you are interested and have experience please email me at [email protected] http://www.paylease.com is the site you would be working on.

    January 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM #326692
    bradford
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    I know that we are looking for a programmer in San Diego, if you are interested and have experience please email me at [email protected] http://www.paylease.com is the site you would be working on.

    January 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM #326763
    bradford
    Participant

    I know that we are looking for a programmer in San Diego, if you are interested and have experience please email me at [email protected] http://www.paylease.com is the site you would be working on.

    January 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM #326780
    bradford
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    I know that we are looking for a programmer in San Diego, if you are interested and have experience please email me at [email protected] http://www.paylease.com is the site you would be working on.

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