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August 26, 2012 at 5:46 PM #20084August 26, 2012 at 8:09 PM #750727
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ParticipantRomney should just come out and say that yes, I off-shored jobs, I took advantage of every single tax break and took advantage of everything when I was in business…
…If you vote for me, I will do the same for my new job as president and make the US the most powerful and important country again in the world…
heh, then again, you can’t fire the American people. 🙂
Maybe he can offshore and deport all of us 99%.
August 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM #750730briansd1
GuestHere’s a good article by Charlie Crist, former governor of Florida on why Obama is the right choice.
This is a very important announcement since, for Romney the road to the white house is only through Florida. Obama can win without Florida.
August 26, 2012 at 9:21 PM #750731SD Realtor
ParticipantI thought that the following quote in the LA Times was one of the most responsible statements regarding housing that we have ever seen:
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….That man was typified by Romney’s response little more than a year ago when he was asked by the Las Vegas Review-Journal about another housing issue: What he would do about the foreclosure crisis that was costing thousands of Nevadans their homes?“Let it run its course and hit the bottom,” Romney said. “Allow investors to buy homes, put renters in them, fix the homes up, and let it turn around and come back up.”
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Participant[quote=briansd1]Here’s a good article by Charlie Crist, former governor of Florida on why Obama is the right choice.
This is a very important announcement since, for Romney the road to the white house is only through Florida. Obama can win without Florida.
Come on brian…everyone knows crist has a serious case of sour grapes…Would you respect an article written by Arlen Spector too?
These guys are bitter that they found themselves in political no mans land praying anyone will take them seriously. Don’t throw them the bone they so desperately need.
August 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM #750735CA renter
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I thought that the following quote in the LA Times was one of the most responsible statements regarding housing that we have ever seen:
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….That man was typified by Romney’s response little more than a year ago when he was asked by the Las Vegas Review-Journal about another housing issue: What he would do about the foreclosure crisis that was costing thousands of Nevadans their homes?“Let it run its course and hit the bottom,” Romney said. “Allow investors to buy homes, put renters in them, fix the homes up, and let it turn around and come back up.”
******************************[/quote]How about we let prices fall so that **people who actually intend to live in the houses** can buy them, fix them, and have affordable housing?
This is the problem with Romney: he’s wants the wealthy to benefit at the expense of regular people. Let him burn.
August 27, 2012 at 6:50 AM #750738GuestRomney is a church Going Mormon. He’s a product of that environment.
I know plenty of people who do charitable things through the organizations they belong to, but they are assholes to everybody else.
Just because a person is good to a few select people doesn’t mean he is a good leader.
August 27, 2012 at 7:47 AM #750741
svelteParticipantThe way this week is turning out, it could be a good TV Guide description for a sitcom episode:
The Republican family embarks on a week-long campaign to convince everyone they should lead the nation, only to have their plans foiled with news dominated that week by a hurricane that hits a city where their leadership failed in the past.
August 27, 2012 at 8:31 AM #750742patb
Participant” Asked repeatedly by students how they can afford the escalating cost of college — under his proposals, student loans would be cut — Romney offers not empathy but advice: to borrow from their parents, to find a cheaper college, to “shop around.””
Borrow from my Parents?
Great. So the Lucky Sperm club gets to do college?
Not everyone has parents who are CEO’s of major companies.
Mitt Romney isn’t Bill Gates, Gates built a company and an industry and then
gve it all to charity. Romney is just some parasite.August 27, 2012 at 8:54 AM #750743EconProf
Participantctr70, the original poster of this thread says he leaned left most of his life, then steadily turned to the right politically.
Winston Churchill once said, paraphrasing, if one is young and not liberal, they have no heart. If one is older and not conservative, they have no head.August 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM #750745Anonymous
GuestI find I am getting more liberal as I get older. Probably due to my disgust at the big money wall st. types that Romney represents. I mean their insistence on lowering taxes for wealthy? How can the everyday man (with a brain) get behind that? But frankly I dislike both candidates and both parties, I just dislike the Republican party a lot more.
August 27, 2012 at 9:32 AM #750746ocrenter
Participantthe Romneys are really nice people. my friend is personal friends with his sons. they are very down to earth.
but I really doubt he’s going to make much difference in the economy.
August 27, 2012 at 9:46 AM #750747zk
Participant[quote=EconProf]ctr70, the original poster of this thread says he leaned left most of his life, then steadily turned to the right politically.
Winston Churchill once said, paraphrasing, if one is young and not liberal, they have no heart. If one is older and not conservative, they have no head.[/quote]Here are two classics from conservatives defending themselves.
“I used to be a liberal.” WTF does that have to do with anything?
And Churchill’s quote. Just because one famous guy said it doesn’t make it true. You can easily be a conservative with very little brains. I see it all the time.
In any case, if you’re a die-hard, dyed-in-the-wool, agree-with-all-their-points kind of person on either side of the aisle, it’s only because you can’t think for yourself.
August 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM #750749sdduuuude
Participant[quote=patb]” Asked repeatedly by students how they can afford the escalating cost of college — under his proposals, student loans would be cut — Romney offers not empathy but advice: to borrow from their parents, to find a cheaper college, to “shop around.””
Borrow from my Parents?
Great. So the Lucky Sperm club gets to do college?
Not everyone has parents who are CEO’s of major companies.
Mitt Romney isn’t Bill Gates, Gates built a company and an industry and then
gve it all to charity. Romney is just some parasite.[/quote]Borrowing money from the government to go to school isn’t a solution to the high cost of schooling. It is, in fact, the cause of it.
August 27, 2012 at 10:09 AM #750750ParticipantCAR that is a difference in perception.
You hear Romney say investors and IMMEDIATELY you equate that statement to rich wealthy people.
I am not a rich wealthy person yet I AM one of those investors who purchases property for rent and have done so for flips. Many MANY people I know including several who are on this website do the same thing. They are not the same rich wealthy who you love to vilify, they are middle class scrubs just like me.
Your perception of Romneys statement is
” he’s wants the wealthy to benefit at the expense of regular people. Let him burn.”
My perception of Romneys statement is
“tax money should not be used to backstop wealthy banks and wealthy investors who hold the paper on the original loan”
So who is correct?
Also I think it is safer to say that important part of the statement is to let them foreclose. What happens after that, whether they are purchased for cash at trustee sales or put on the market for ANYONE to buy is not consequential. The important part is that it is not the taxpayer who is on the hook, and the overall market is not manipulated.
Seemingly all of this is lost most likely because of your perception of Romney.
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