Go East, young man? Californians look for the exit

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

Golf Courses 1 Poor Humans 0

Yea the wife says either plant something we can eat or get fake grass.

[svelte]

As sure as ying is tied to yang, the cycle has come full circle. California is once again an inbound state.

http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/01/04/van-line-calif-jumps-to-no-7-u-s-destination/156643/

Congrats to Nor-LA-SD-guy, davelj, Blissful, kicksavedave and others for realizing the sky isn’t actually falling.

Not that I want more people here – I just understand the draw.

[UCGal]

[quote=svelte]As sure as ying is tied to yang, the cycle has come full circle. California is once again an inbound state.

http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/01/04/van-line-calif-jumps-to-no-7-u-s-destination/156643/

Congrats to Nor-LA-SD-guy, davelj, Blissful, kicksavedave and others for realizing the sky isn’t actually falling.

Not that I want more people here – I just understand the draw.[/quote]
Interesting… From the link Illinois had the most net outbound.

And the article also suggests that moving vans are more indicative of executive relo’s, vs the general population.

That fits the parking lot where I work. Lots of Illinois license plates on high end cars in the parking lot and more new faces suit types on the newly remodeled executive floor.

Technically corporate hq is in Libertyville… but I’m not sure if any execs are actually there anymore.

[sdrealtor]

For the more general population the differential in rates for uHaul trucks has always been a good indicator. Taking a truck from Chicago to San Diego next week will run you $2122. Taking one from San Diego to Chicago only $1459. That means they need more trucks going east than coming west and would seem to parallel the articles hypothesis

[desmond]

Chicago? Yes, many people from California dream of moving to Chicago. Btw, your assumptions on the pricing is not fact:

Here are some examples from U-Haul of its current one-way rental rates for a 26-foot truck:

From Dallas to San Francisco: $734
From San Francisco to Dallas: $2,116

From Houston to Los Angeles: $706
From Los Angeles to Houston: $2,051

In both cases, it’s almost three times more expensive to rent a truck to leave California (from San Francisco or Los Angeles) and move to Texas (Dallas or Houston) as it is to leave Texas and move into California, suggesting that there is a huge outmigration of trucks and people away from California to Texas. Given those conditions, U-Haul simply prices its one-way truck rentals to reflect the differences in the relative demand-high prices for the high demand to leave California for Texas, and low prices for the low demand to leave Texas for California.

“When comparing California with Texas, U-Haul says it all. To rent a 26-foot truck oneway from San Francisco to Austin, the charge is $3,236, and yet the one-way charge for that same truck from Austin to San Francisco is just $399. Clearly what is happening is that far more people want to move from San Francisco to Austin than vice versa, so U-Haul has to pay its own employees to drive the empty trucks back from Texas.”

[sdrealtor]

Good point. I guess it really depends upon on the specific city pairs and a more exhaustive study would be needed.

[The-Shoveler]

California’s population grew about 260,135 in 2011 (that’s down a tad from 2000) but still adding population at about a little less than two TV’s a year.

Mostly the growth is organic (more births than deaths etc…) these days.

With emigration (not migration ) being the dominate other source of population growth since the nighties at least, these days more from Asia less from Mexico than in the past.

Once the economy ever gets moving (which it will someday) I expect Socal to get it’s mojo back.

[The-Shoveler]

In related news

http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/01/05/analyst-calif-economy-outpacing-u-s/156716/

The state is performing better than many of its commentators think. The outlook is that this will continue. Beacon forecasts that job growth will accelerate next year and exceed the 2% growth mark by 2012 Q3. The unemployment rate will be around 10.9% by that time and population growth will accelerate driven by a return to positive net migration next year. Not bad.

[desmond]

Even a Yugo can “accelerate”.

[flyer]

We’ve lived all over the world, but, as Natives, have always kept our “home base” in San Diego, simply because our entire family likes it better than any other place in the world. We know that may not be true for others, and everyone has to do what they feel is best.

As other posters have mentioned, if living in CA becomes a financial issue, it probably is better to look elswhere–especially if your kids won’t be able to afford to buy homes here, or will have to settle for a compromised quality of life.

[sdrealtor]

There is no reason for the financially insecure to have to leave CA. There are plenty of affordable homes in desert locales or even better on remote mountaintops for them to hide out on.

[desmond]

That’s more like it, your last responce scared me.

[briansd1]

I think that there is a good amount of white flight to places such as Colorado Springs and Spokane, WA.

[svelte]

[quote=UCGal]
And the article also suggests that moving vans are more indicative of executive relo’s, vs the general population.
[/quote]

Not sure I agree with that. It is one component of their business, for sure.

But many professionals have their moving expenses paid by the company and choose to use professional movers. I know the companies that have hired me have paid to move me.

And probably the largest component of their business is the military. The US Government uses pro movers to move military families around, and even gives them one free move when they retire.

[sdrealtor]

Here’s more comprehensive data including U-Haul, Atlas and United which make up about 40% of the moving market. U-Haul alone said 5.6% more inbound moves to CA then outbound. Temecula in particular had 11.5% more inbound moves.

http://www.nctimes.com/blogsnew/business/realside/housing-california-attracts-more-families-than-it-loses/article_09c46c5e-e988-5d95-b400-bf80b74d68e5.html#ixzz1imLpYQxl

Looks like it is back to go West young man!

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