November 2, 2006 at 8:35 PM #7819PerryChaseParticipant
Evangelical leader quits, denies male escort’s allegations
(CNN) — The president of the National Association of Evangelicals resigned Thursday after denying an accusation by a male prostitute that the pastor paid him for sex over three years.
The Rev. Ted Haggard said he is also temporarily stepping aside from the pulpit of his church in Colorado Springs, Colorado, pending an internal investigation by the church.
The National Association of Evangelicals is an umbrella group for more than 45,000 churches and some 30 million members across the country.
This is for you guys who think that conservative religious people are morally righteous. They are just hiding their own demons.
BTW, I think there’s nothing wrong with being gay. The guy should be man enough to admit it and come to terms with it. And perhaps help others who are struggling with self-acceptance.
In my view, a morally righteous person is one who lives life with compassion and caring rather than going around denouncing others.November 2, 2006 at 9:44 PM #39101L_Thek_onomicsParticipant
It’s very interesting. The misbehaving on the right resigns, the
misbehaving on the left is defended by screaming militant leftists,
L ThekNovember 2, 2006 at 9:50 PM #39103PerryChaseParticipant
….. because it’s not misbehaving at all. It’s misbehaving only if you say so. Sex is a normal part of life. What’s wrong with it?November 2, 2006 at 10:16 PM #39109AnonymousGuest
Someone should re-write the bible so that homosexuality is allowed, then these priest won’t have to go to hell.November 3, 2006 at 12:32 AM #39114CardiffBaseballParticipant
There No One is Righteous, Not Even One..
I believe if you check Perry (and remember Jehovah’s are not Christian), you’ll find that the premise of Chrisitanity is that everyone is sinful. Just because someone looks good on the outside doesn’t mean they are on the inside.
I say…Yawn. Schadenfreud for haters, extreme disappointment for others, but for most christians, just a big, “Yes so what”. Personally I never really believe the holier than thou types and try to avoid churches like that. I’d much rather have a relationship where a friend said to me “I am thinking about going to a male (or female) hooker” but generally people spend less public time on their struggles which is too bad because they might stop bad behaviors otherwise.
Oh, I define any married man going to any hookers (male or female) as bad behavior, so what I mean is it would be nice to talk someone out of that ahead of time. If this guy really did this stuff, then he is a hypocrite, no doubt.November 3, 2006 at 4:18 AM #39116lostkittyParticipant
This country has gone nuts. Everyone is all a-twitter over this guy being a fake and hypocritical.
In other countries, the people would snicker at the news, and the guy would have to find a new job. Here… we talk and discuss, and talk some more. It is pathetic.
How many man-years were wasted writing about and analyzing Clinton’s famous b.j.?November 3, 2006 at 6:56 AM #39118
I dislike religious extremism. I could care less whether someone is homosexual. In fact, I think that many people are just born that way and that it is a natural state of small percentage of our species.
Sometimes those who condemn the loudest are secretly engaged in those activities. If he was a loud condemner, and these allegations are true, then I’m glad he was shown up for hypocrite. If they are untrue (which is very possible – why is everybody so anxious to believe a prostitute?), then I feel a little sorry for him.November 3, 2006 at 8:20 AM #39123woodrowParticipant
If they are untrue (which is very possible – why is everybody so anxious to believe a prostitute?), then I feel a little sorry for him.
Haggard has admitted to "indescretions" and the prostitute has letters and voicemails from Haggard.November 3, 2006 at 8:24 AM #39124
The prostitute “claims” to have these things but has yet to produce them. There are only a few days left before a vote on same sex marriage in that state. This prostitute may be trying to influence the vote.November 3, 2006 at 8:26 AM #39125woodrowParticipant
It's very interesting. The misbehaving on the right resigns, the misbehaving on the left is defended by screaming militant leftists, and stays… L Thek
The most powerful evangelical in America is exposed as a philandering hypocrit and this guys response is to point fingers at "leftists".
What a joke.November 3, 2006 at 8:32 AM #39126
Woodrow, I think you are taking these allegations as truth because you WANT them to be true. Maybe they are, maybe are not. There is NO TRUTH yet in this story. Who has heard these tapes? Tested the bills for DNA or fingerprints?
For the record, I do not oppose same sex marriage. I am NOT defending this guy because I share his position on this issue. I am defending him because everyone has decided he is guilty without any real proof.November 3, 2006 at 9:07 AM #39127no_such_realityParticipant
This prostitute may be trying to influence the vote.
Yep, it’s put up or shut up time for the Pro.
If he doesn’t have it, the AG needs to find a way to prosecute him under election tampering laws.
If he has it… let the chips fall.November 3, 2006 at 9:39 AM #39128AnonymousGuest
See zk, PC, PS et al.: PD’s on the wrong side of the aisle on the same sex marriage issue, yet we right-wingers are not off to pillory her, and are even happy to accept her in our big Republican tent.
May the good reverend find his way over to the Anglican/Episcopal Church, where this stuff is celebrated, and he’s now eligible for a bishopric (pun intended).November 3, 2006 at 10:08 AM #39129
JG, sorry to disappoint! I’m glad I’m not going to be tossed out on my ear. 🙂November 3, 2006 at 10:08 AM #39130
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