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  • January 4, 2011 at 7:52 PM #649045
    NotCranky
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    There is much divisible privately held residential and agricultural land. To develop it the owner must.
    Dedicate as much as 60% of the land as “open space”
    Hire a biologist.
    Hire an archeologist who could potentially trigger a huge review(this is churning work).
    Hire engineers/surveyors(these things can be done with legal descriptions only)
    Hire a fire hazard study consultant(or something like that)
    Pay tens of thousand for review of this work by local governments and perhaps also the state, depending on some circumstances.

    It has not always been this way and there is much of the U.S where a subdivision can be done on paper for chicken feed, compared to what it takes around here. One day someone will be able to buy the open space back into use(or it will be given to Corky Mcmillin) and the biological studies (which are mostly just churning work) will be rendered irrelevant.

    I call this Confiscation.

    January 7, 2011 at 8:41 AM #648712
    Djshakes
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    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    Hey Brian…….THE GOVERNMENT MONEY COMES FROM US, THE TAX PAYERS! They produce nothing, just redistribute from producers while they take a cut. Essentially what the article is about. So quit acting like they gave this money out of charity that they actually generated through production.

    January 7, 2011 at 8:41 AM #648783
    Djshakes
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    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    Hey Brian…….THE GOVERNMENT MONEY COMES FROM US, THE TAX PAYERS! They produce nothing, just redistribute from producers while they take a cut. Essentially what the article is about. So quit acting like they gave this money out of charity that they actually generated through production.

    January 7, 2011 at 8:41 AM #649369
    Djshakes
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    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    Hey Brian…….THE GOVERNMENT MONEY COMES FROM US, THE TAX PAYERS! They produce nothing, just redistribute from producers while they take a cut. Essentially what the article is about. So quit acting like they gave this money out of charity that they actually generated through production.

    January 7, 2011 at 8:41 AM #649505
    Djshakes
    Participant

    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    Hey Brian…….THE GOVERNMENT MONEY COMES FROM US, THE TAX PAYERS! They produce nothing, just redistribute from producers while they take a cut. Essentially what the article is about. So quit acting like they gave this money out of charity that they actually generated through production.

    January 7, 2011 at 8:41 AM #649831
    Djshakes
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    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    Hey Brian…….THE GOVERNMENT MONEY COMES FROM US, THE TAX PAYERS! They produce nothing, just redistribute from producers while they take a cut. Essentially what the article is about. So quit acting like they gave this money out of charity that they actually generated through production.

    January 7, 2011 at 9:18 AM #648717
    Rich Toscano
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    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    In the short term, yes.

    In the long term (the timeline that matters), absolutely not.

    January 7, 2011 at 9:18 AM #648788
    Rich Toscano
    Keymaster

    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    In the short term, yes.

    In the long term (the timeline that matters), absolutely not.

    January 7, 2011 at 9:18 AM #649374
    Rich Toscano
    Keymaster

    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    In the short term, yes.

    In the long term (the timeline that matters), absolutely not.

    January 7, 2011 at 9:18 AM #649510
    Rich Toscano
    Keymaster

    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    In the short term, yes.

    In the long term (the timeline that matters), absolutely not.

    January 7, 2011 at 9:18 AM #649836
    Rich Toscano
    Keymaster

    [quote=briansd1]How about when the government bails out private pensions?

    Don’t you think that the value of the your 401k has been help up by Federal action?[/quote]

    In the short term, yes.

    In the long term (the timeline that matters), absolutely not.

    May 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM #694437
    Aecetia
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    “The Irish government plans to institute a tax on private pensions to drive jobs growth, according to its jobs program strategy, delivered today.”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/irish-bombshell-government-raids-private-pensions-to-pay-for-jobs-program-2011-5#ixzz1M4kykxPQ

    I hope this does not catch on here. First they came for the pensions, then the 401’s, next they took the safety deposit boxes….

    May 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM #694521
    Aecetia
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    “The Irish government plans to institute a tax on private pensions to drive jobs growth, according to its jobs program strategy, delivered today.”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/irish-bombshell-government-raids-private-pensions-to-pay-for-jobs-program-2011-5#ixzz1M4kykxPQ

    I hope this does not catch on here. First they came for the pensions, then the 401’s, next they took the safety deposit boxes….

    May 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM #695125
    Aecetia
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    “The Irish government plans to institute a tax on private pensions to drive jobs growth, according to its jobs program strategy, delivered today.”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/irish-bombshell-government-raids-private-pensions-to-pay-for-jobs-program-2011-5#ixzz1M4kykxPQ

    I hope this does not catch on here. First they came for the pensions, then the 401’s, next they took the safety deposit boxes….

    May 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM #695274
    Aecetia
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    “The Irish government plans to institute a tax on private pensions to drive jobs growth, according to its jobs program strategy, delivered today.”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/irish-bombshell-government-raids-private-pensions-to-pay-for-jobs-program-2011-5#ixzz1M4kykxPQ

    I hope this does not catch on here. First they came for the pensions, then the 401’s, next they took the safety deposit boxes….

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