Election 2008 and the housing market

[Sandi Egan]

Ron Paul sounds like he can make a difference, both economically and politically. He wants to bring back the troops and at some point return dollar to the gold standard. Check out this very short page:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/debt-and-taxes/

And the guy IS gaining momentum…

[Eugene]

I am not sure I feel I should pay for a healthcare system for the entire nation,

Here’s the choice … You could pay extra to extend healthcare coverage to all 300 million Americans rather than 250 million … Or you could pay extra so that insurance companies can spend money on screening prospective clients, denying coverage to anyone who’s likely to get sick, and then refusing to pay for procedures on a case-by-case basis in order to save money. (And also hope that you don’t develop some sort of condition that makes you virtually uninsurable until you’re 65)

The reality is that people who need expensive treatment ultimately get it anyway. If Mr. Rodriguez does not have health insurance and his appendix ruptures, he goes to the ER, they do the surgery and send him a bill for $50,000. Since he does not have the money, he declares bankruptcy and the hospital has no choice but to get the money out of its other patients (you, for example).

[Eugene]

I am not sure I feel I should pay for a healthcare system for the entire nation,

Here’s the choice … You could pay extra to extend healthcare coverage to all 300 million Americans rather than 250 million … Or you could pay extra so that insurance companies can spend money on screening prospective clients, denying coverage to anyone who’s likely to get sick, and then refusing to pay for procedures on a case-by-case basis in order to save money. (And also hope that you don’t develop some sort of condition that makes you virtually uninsurable until you’re 65)

The reality is that people who need expensive treatment ultimately get it anyway. If Mr. Rodriguez does not have health insurance and his appendix ruptures, he goes to the ER, they do the surgery and send him a bill for $50,000. Since he does not have the money, he declares bankruptcy and the hospital has no choice but to get the money out of its other patients (you, for example).

[Eugene]

I am not sure I feel I should pay for a healthcare system for the entire nation,

Here’s the choice … You could pay extra to extend healthcare coverage to all 300 million Americans rather than 250 million … Or you could pay extra so that insurance companies can spend money on screening prospective clients, denying coverage to anyone who’s likely to get sick, and then refusing to pay for procedures on a case-by-case basis in order to save money. (And also hope that you don’t develop some sort of condition that makes you virtually uninsurable until you’re 65)

The reality is that people who need expensive treatment ultimately get it anyway. If Mr. Rodriguez does not have health insurance and his appendix ruptures, he goes to the ER, they do the surgery and send him a bill for $50,000. Since he does not have the money, he declares bankruptcy and the hospital has no choice but to get the money out of its other patients (you, for example).

[Eugene]

I am not sure I feel I should pay for a healthcare system for the entire nation,

Here’s the choice … You could pay extra to extend healthcare coverage to all 300 million Americans rather than 250 million … Or you could pay extra so that insurance companies can spend money on screening prospective clients, denying coverage to anyone who’s likely to get sick, and then refusing to pay for procedures on a case-by-case basis in order to save money. (And also hope that you don’t develop some sort of condition that makes you virtually uninsurable until you’re 65)

The reality is that people who need expensive treatment ultimately get it anyway. If Mr. Rodriguez does not have health insurance and his appendix ruptures, he goes to the ER, they do the surgery and send him a bill for $50,000. Since he does not have the money, he declares bankruptcy and the hospital has no choice but to get the money out of its other patients (you, for example).

[Eugene]

I am not sure I feel I should pay for a healthcare system for the entire nation,

Here’s the choice … You could pay extra to extend healthcare coverage to all 300 million Americans rather than 250 million … Or you could pay extra so that insurance companies can spend money on screening prospective clients, denying coverage to anyone who’s likely to get sick, and then refusing to pay for procedures on a case-by-case basis in order to save money. (And also hope that you don’t develop some sort of condition that makes you virtually uninsurable until you’re 65)

The reality is that people who need expensive treatment ultimately get it anyway. If Mr. Rodriguez does not have health insurance and his appendix ruptures, he goes to the ER, they do the surgery and send him a bill for $50,000. Since he does not have the money, he declares bankruptcy and the hospital has no choice but to get the money out of its other patients (you, for example).

[SD Realtor]

Esmith I choose to reduce the size of our government, not expand it. If you really believe that our government does a good job at running things then so be it. The health care system is but one example. Does it work now? Not well. I 100% agree that the system sucks because rather then being preventative it is reactive and tons of money get spent due to the points you brought up. Your argument about how bad the system is cannot be refuted.

I pointed out that example as that is one of her more visible programs.

I am simply not in the camp that more government is better. I believe it is worst, I believe it is wasteful, and I believe that while perhaps well intentioned, it does not execute and in the long run wastes more money then it saves.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Esmith I choose to reduce the size of our government, not expand it. If you really believe that our government does a good job at running things then so be it. The health care system is but one example. Does it work now? Not well. I 100% agree that the system sucks because rather then being preventative it is reactive and tons of money get spent due to the points you brought up. Your argument about how bad the system is cannot be refuted.

I pointed out that example as that is one of her more visible programs.

I am simply not in the camp that more government is better. I believe it is worst, I believe it is wasteful, and I believe that while perhaps well intentioned, it does not execute and in the long run wastes more money then it saves.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Esmith I choose to reduce the size of our government, not expand it. If you really believe that our government does a good job at running things then so be it. The health care system is but one example. Does it work now? Not well. I 100% agree that the system sucks because rather then being preventative it is reactive and tons of money get spent due to the points you brought up. Your argument about how bad the system is cannot be refuted.

I pointed out that example as that is one of her more visible programs.

I am simply not in the camp that more government is better. I believe it is worst, I believe it is wasteful, and I believe that while perhaps well intentioned, it does not execute and in the long run wastes more money then it saves.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Esmith I choose to reduce the size of our government, not expand it. If you really believe that our government does a good job at running things then so be it. The health care system is but one example. Does it work now? Not well. I 100% agree that the system sucks because rather then being preventative it is reactive and tons of money get spent due to the points you brought up. Your argument about how bad the system is cannot be refuted.

I pointed out that example as that is one of her more visible programs.

I am simply not in the camp that more government is better. I believe it is worst, I believe it is wasteful, and I believe that while perhaps well intentioned, it does not execute and in the long run wastes more money then it saves.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Esmith I choose to reduce the size of our government, not expand it. If you really believe that our government does a good job at running things then so be it. The health care system is but one example. Does it work now? Not well. I 100% agree that the system sucks because rather then being preventative it is reactive and tons of money get spent due to the points you brought up. Your argument about how bad the system is cannot be refuted.

I pointed out that example as that is one of her more visible programs.

I am simply not in the camp that more government is better. I believe it is worst, I believe it is wasteful, and I believe that while perhaps well intentioned, it does not execute and in the long run wastes more money then it saves.

SD Realtor

[patientlywaiting]

I have to mostly agree with SD Realtor.

As far as taxes go, it’s either pay more or spend less, now. That includes getting out of Iraq.

Health care sucks for the majority of people because it’s a government sponsored racket full of barriers to entry that protect the guilty.

First, like any other businesses, doctors should quote charges before rendering the services, not after. We need to allow real competition and allow nurse practitioners to open independent businesses. Why do we need a doctor to prescribe cold remedies? Why do we need dentists to clean teeth?

People get sick because they eat junk and are fat. How about taxing junk food to pay for health care. If we tax cigarettes to make them cost prohibitive, why are potato chips only $1 a bag?

It’s harsh, but people who get sick more should pay more.

That said, I do support a national catastrophic health care system where, for example, anything more than $10,000/year in health care cost would be covered by government insurance. But, first, we need incentives for people to ration their own use of health care services. People with insurance are now profligate because they only pay a tiny part of their own health care.

[patientlywaiting]

I have to mostly agree with SD Realtor.

As far as taxes go, it’s either pay more or spend less, now. That includes getting out of Iraq.

Health care sucks for the majority of people because it’s a government sponsored racket full of barriers to entry that protect the guilty.

First, like any other businesses, doctors should quote charges before rendering the services, not after. We need to allow real competition and allow nurse practitioners to open independent businesses. Why do we need a doctor to prescribe cold remedies? Why do we need dentists to clean teeth?

People get sick because they eat junk and are fat. How about taxing junk food to pay for health care. If we tax cigarettes to make them cost prohibitive, why are potato chips only $1 a bag?

It’s harsh, but people who get sick more should pay more.

That said, I do support a national catastrophic health care system where, for example, anything more than $10,000/year in health care cost would be covered by government insurance. But, first, we need incentives for people to ration their own use of health care services. People with insurance are now profligate because they only pay a tiny part of their own health care.

[patientlywaiting]

I have to mostly agree with SD Realtor.

As far as taxes go, it’s either pay more or spend less, now. That includes getting out of Iraq.

Health care sucks for the majority of people because it’s a government sponsored racket full of barriers to entry that protect the guilty.

First, like any other businesses, doctors should quote charges before rendering the services, not after. We need to allow real competition and allow nurse practitioners to open independent businesses. Why do we need a doctor to prescribe cold remedies? Why do we need dentists to clean teeth?

People get sick because they eat junk and are fat. How about taxing junk food to pay for health care. If we tax cigarettes to make them cost prohibitive, why are potato chips only $1 a bag?

It’s harsh, but people who get sick more should pay more.

That said, I do support a national catastrophic health care system where, for example, anything more than $10,000/year in health care cost would be covered by government insurance. But, first, we need incentives for people to ration their own use of health care services. People with insurance are now profligate because they only pay a tiny part of their own health care.

[patientlywaiting]

I have to mostly agree with SD Realtor.

As far as taxes go, it’s either pay more or spend less, now. That includes getting out of Iraq.

Health care sucks for the majority of people because it’s a government sponsored racket full of barriers to entry that protect the guilty.

First, like any other businesses, doctors should quote charges before rendering the services, not after. We need to allow real competition and allow nurse practitioners to open independent businesses. Why do we need a doctor to prescribe cold remedies? Why do we need dentists to clean teeth?

People get sick because they eat junk and are fat. How about taxing junk food to pay for health care. If we tax cigarettes to make them cost prohibitive, why are potato chips only $1 a bag?

It’s harsh, but people who get sick more should pay more.

That said, I do support a national catastrophic health care system where, for example, anything more than $10,000/year in health care cost would be covered by government insurance. But, first, we need incentives for people to ration their own use of health care services. People with insurance are now profligate because they only pay a tiny part of their own health care.

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