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November 1, 2010 at 5:07 PM #626373November 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM #625352briansd1Guest
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
As Louis XIV, believing France to be at the absolute height of her power, famously uttered, “L’Etat c’est Moi”. The Ancien Regime is passing, Brian, can you feel it?[/quote]
For Halloween, did you dress up as Marie Antoinette holding a cake?
I had a Catholic education and I know my European history quite well. π
Louis XIV was quite right to proclaim l’etat c’est moi. He was still young king and was about to build France into the most powerful state in the Western world.
Louis XV’s reign was a period of royal indulgence and pleasure. Louis XVI helped the American revolution but was unable to hold on to his crown.
November 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM #625433briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
As Louis XIV, believing France to be at the absolute height of her power, famously uttered, “L’Etat c’est Moi”. The Ancien Regime is passing, Brian, can you feel it?[/quote]
For Halloween, did you dress up as Marie Antoinette holding a cake?
I had a Catholic education and I know my European history quite well. π
Louis XIV was quite right to proclaim l’etat c’est moi. He was still young king and was about to build France into the most powerful state in the Western world.
Louis XV’s reign was a period of royal indulgence and pleasure. Louis XVI helped the American revolution but was unable to hold on to his crown.
November 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM #625984briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
As Louis XIV, believing France to be at the absolute height of her power, famously uttered, “L’Etat c’est Moi”. The Ancien Regime is passing, Brian, can you feel it?[/quote]
For Halloween, did you dress up as Marie Antoinette holding a cake?
I had a Catholic education and I know my European history quite well. π
Louis XIV was quite right to proclaim l’etat c’est moi. He was still young king and was about to build France into the most powerful state in the Western world.
Louis XV’s reign was a period of royal indulgence and pleasure. Louis XVI helped the American revolution but was unable to hold on to his crown.
November 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM #626107briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
As Louis XIV, believing France to be at the absolute height of her power, famously uttered, “L’Etat c’est Moi”. The Ancien Regime is passing, Brian, can you feel it?[/quote]
For Halloween, did you dress up as Marie Antoinette holding a cake?
I had a Catholic education and I know my European history quite well. π
Louis XIV was quite right to proclaim l’etat c’est moi. He was still young king and was about to build France into the most powerful state in the Western world.
Louis XV’s reign was a period of royal indulgence and pleasure. Louis XVI helped the American revolution but was unable to hold on to his crown.
November 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM #626416briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
As Louis XIV, believing France to be at the absolute height of her power, famously uttered, “L’Etat c’est Moi”. The Ancien Regime is passing, Brian, can you feel it?[/quote]
For Halloween, did you dress up as Marie Antoinette holding a cake?
I had a Catholic education and I know my European history quite well. π
Louis XIV was quite right to proclaim l’etat c’est moi. He was still young king and was about to build France into the most powerful state in the Western world.
Louis XV’s reign was a period of royal indulgence and pleasure. Louis XVI helped the American revolution but was unable to hold on to his crown.
November 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM #625361zkParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian:…
I could rebut each of your points, all of which are not only factually erroneous, but laughable on their face and as to substance.
Your entire line consists of: “Democrats are never wrong and Republicans are ignorant, gun-toting, chauvinistic religious zealots”. Do you consider this viewpoint open-minded? Just curious, because it is horribly bigoted and ignorant and you seem smarter than that. You’ve been well indoctrinated, I’ll give your professors that.
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Am I the only one who sees Allan’s hypocrisy here?
Allan, first you say everything Brian said was laughable, but didn’t give any counterarguments or true rebuttal. Then, in the very next paragraph, you accuse him of saying nothing but “we’re right and you’re wrong.” Which is exactly what you’d just done.I was enjoying the back-and-forth until that post. I know you’re better than that, Allan.
I know that a lot of people have a pretty low opinion of brian’s style. I personally don’t agree with that opinion, but that’s unimportant. To rely on that consensus to avoid giving a counter to his points is just plain weak. I’d be interested to hear your rebuttals to brian’s last post, Allan, and I’d be interested to hear what brian has to say to your rebuttals.
November 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM #625441zkParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian:…
I could rebut each of your points, all of which are not only factually erroneous, but laughable on their face and as to substance.
Your entire line consists of: “Democrats are never wrong and Republicans are ignorant, gun-toting, chauvinistic religious zealots”. Do you consider this viewpoint open-minded? Just curious, because it is horribly bigoted and ignorant and you seem smarter than that. You’ve been well indoctrinated, I’ll give your professors that.
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Am I the only one who sees Allan’s hypocrisy here?
Allan, first you say everything Brian said was laughable, but didn’t give any counterarguments or true rebuttal. Then, in the very next paragraph, you accuse him of saying nothing but “we’re right and you’re wrong.” Which is exactly what you’d just done.I was enjoying the back-and-forth until that post. I know you’re better than that, Allan.
I know that a lot of people have a pretty low opinion of brian’s style. I personally don’t agree with that opinion, but that’s unimportant. To rely on that consensus to avoid giving a counter to his points is just plain weak. I’d be interested to hear your rebuttals to brian’s last post, Allan, and I’d be interested to hear what brian has to say to your rebuttals.
November 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM #625991zkParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian:…
I could rebut each of your points, all of which are not only factually erroneous, but laughable on their face and as to substance.
Your entire line consists of: “Democrats are never wrong and Republicans are ignorant, gun-toting, chauvinistic religious zealots”. Do you consider this viewpoint open-minded? Just curious, because it is horribly bigoted and ignorant and you seem smarter than that. You’ve been well indoctrinated, I’ll give your professors that.
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Am I the only one who sees Allan’s hypocrisy here?
Allan, first you say everything Brian said was laughable, but didn’t give any counterarguments or true rebuttal. Then, in the very next paragraph, you accuse him of saying nothing but “we’re right and you’re wrong.” Which is exactly what you’d just done.I was enjoying the back-and-forth until that post. I know you’re better than that, Allan.
I know that a lot of people have a pretty low opinion of brian’s style. I personally don’t agree with that opinion, but that’s unimportant. To rely on that consensus to avoid giving a counter to his points is just plain weak. I’d be interested to hear your rebuttals to brian’s last post, Allan, and I’d be interested to hear what brian has to say to your rebuttals.
November 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM #626115zkParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian:…
I could rebut each of your points, all of which are not only factually erroneous, but laughable on their face and as to substance.
Your entire line consists of: “Democrats are never wrong and Republicans are ignorant, gun-toting, chauvinistic religious zealots”. Do you consider this viewpoint open-minded? Just curious, because it is horribly bigoted and ignorant and you seem smarter than that. You’ve been well indoctrinated, I’ll give your professors that.
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Am I the only one who sees Allan’s hypocrisy here?
Allan, first you say everything Brian said was laughable, but didn’t give any counterarguments or true rebuttal. Then, in the very next paragraph, you accuse him of saying nothing but “we’re right and you’re wrong.” Which is exactly what you’d just done.I was enjoying the back-and-forth until that post. I know you’re better than that, Allan.
I know that a lot of people have a pretty low opinion of brian’s style. I personally don’t agree with that opinion, but that’s unimportant. To rely on that consensus to avoid giving a counter to his points is just plain weak. I’d be interested to hear your rebuttals to brian’s last post, Allan, and I’d be interested to hear what brian has to say to your rebuttals.
November 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM #626424zkParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Brian:…
I could rebut each of your points, all of which are not only factually erroneous, but laughable on their face and as to substance.
Your entire line consists of: “Democrats are never wrong and Republicans are ignorant, gun-toting, chauvinistic religious zealots”. Do you consider this viewpoint open-minded? Just curious, because it is horribly bigoted and ignorant and you seem smarter than that. You’ve been well indoctrinated, I’ll give your professors that.
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Am I the only one who sees Allan’s hypocrisy here?
Allan, first you say everything Brian said was laughable, but didn’t give any counterarguments or true rebuttal. Then, in the very next paragraph, you accuse him of saying nothing but “we’re right and you’re wrong.” Which is exactly what you’d just done.I was enjoying the back-and-forth until that post. I know you’re better than that, Allan.
I know that a lot of people have a pretty low opinion of brian’s style. I personally don’t agree with that opinion, but that’s unimportant. To rely on that consensus to avoid giving a counter to his points is just plain weak. I’d be interested to hear your rebuttals to brian’s last post, Allan, and I’d be interested to hear what brian has to say to your rebuttals.
November 1, 2010 at 10:06 PM #625389Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
As Louis XIV, believing France to be at the absolute height of her power, famously uttered, “L’Etat c’est Moi”. The Ancien Regime is passing, Brian, can you feel it?[/quote]
For Halloween, did you dress up as Marie Antoinette holding a cake?
I had a Catholic education and I know my European history quite well. π
Louis XIV was quite right to proclaim l’etat c’est moi. He was still young king and was about to build France into the most powerful state in the Western world.
Louis XV’s reign was a period of royal indulgence and pleasure. Louis XVI helped the American revolution but was unable to hold on to his crown.[/quote]
Brian: I won’t delve into your Catholic education, save to say you’re obviously an intelligent person, and I would expect that having such an education would at least give you a sense of acceptance when it came to Christians of other denominations. I don’t hold with the beliefs of most evangelicals, since I believe that their theology is based on an incorrect interpretation of the bible, but I don’t think that they’re all inbred rednecks, either. Catholicism is generally pretty accepting, as a rule (Concho’s stab at the Spanish Inquisition notwithstanding), and I’d expect someone who claims to be open-minded, tolerant and who “loves his fellow man” to fall into this category.
As far as your grasp of French history, specifically the rule of the Bourbons, goes: Do you see any parallels in America’s present? Ruinously expensive foreign wars, sclerotic rulers and politicians, a devalued currency; the list goes on and on. Whether you’re willing to admit that the Dems belong to the group, we’re ruled by a venal, self-serving professional political class, which is as out of touch with the populace as the Bourbons were (and we all know how that turned out). Mock the Tea Partiers all you want, but they’re the vanguard of a popular movement. While I’m not a member, its nice to see that Americans are still capable of getting roused and getting angry.
November 1, 2010 at 10:06 PM #625470Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
As Louis XIV, believing France to be at the absolute height of her power, famously uttered, “L’Etat c’est Moi”. The Ancien Regime is passing, Brian, can you feel it?[/quote]
For Halloween, did you dress up as Marie Antoinette holding a cake?
I had a Catholic education and I know my European history quite well. π
Louis XIV was quite right to proclaim l’etat c’est moi. He was still young king and was about to build France into the most powerful state in the Western world.
Louis XV’s reign was a period of royal indulgence and pleasure. Louis XVI helped the American revolution but was unable to hold on to his crown.[/quote]
Brian: I won’t delve into your Catholic education, save to say you’re obviously an intelligent person, and I would expect that having such an education would at least give you a sense of acceptance when it came to Christians of other denominations. I don’t hold with the beliefs of most evangelicals, since I believe that their theology is based on an incorrect interpretation of the bible, but I don’t think that they’re all inbred rednecks, either. Catholicism is generally pretty accepting, as a rule (Concho’s stab at the Spanish Inquisition notwithstanding), and I’d expect someone who claims to be open-minded, tolerant and who “loves his fellow man” to fall into this category.
As far as your grasp of French history, specifically the rule of the Bourbons, goes: Do you see any parallels in America’s present? Ruinously expensive foreign wars, sclerotic rulers and politicians, a devalued currency; the list goes on and on. Whether you’re willing to admit that the Dems belong to the group, we’re ruled by a venal, self-serving professional political class, which is as out of touch with the populace as the Bourbons were (and we all know how that turned out). Mock the Tea Partiers all you want, but they’re the vanguard of a popular movement. While I’m not a member, its nice to see that Americans are still capable of getting roused and getting angry.
November 1, 2010 at 10:06 PM #626021Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
As Louis XIV, believing France to be at the absolute height of her power, famously uttered, “L’Etat c’est Moi”. The Ancien Regime is passing, Brian, can you feel it?[/quote]
For Halloween, did you dress up as Marie Antoinette holding a cake?
I had a Catholic education and I know my European history quite well. π
Louis XIV was quite right to proclaim l’etat c’est moi. He was still young king and was about to build France into the most powerful state in the Western world.
Louis XV’s reign was a period of royal indulgence and pleasure. Louis XVI helped the American revolution but was unable to hold on to his crown.[/quote]
Brian: I won’t delve into your Catholic education, save to say you’re obviously an intelligent person, and I would expect that having such an education would at least give you a sense of acceptance when it came to Christians of other denominations. I don’t hold with the beliefs of most evangelicals, since I believe that their theology is based on an incorrect interpretation of the bible, but I don’t think that they’re all inbred rednecks, either. Catholicism is generally pretty accepting, as a rule (Concho’s stab at the Spanish Inquisition notwithstanding), and I’d expect someone who claims to be open-minded, tolerant and who “loves his fellow man” to fall into this category.
As far as your grasp of French history, specifically the rule of the Bourbons, goes: Do you see any parallels in America’s present? Ruinously expensive foreign wars, sclerotic rulers and politicians, a devalued currency; the list goes on and on. Whether you’re willing to admit that the Dems belong to the group, we’re ruled by a venal, self-serving professional political class, which is as out of touch with the populace as the Bourbons were (and we all know how that turned out). Mock the Tea Partiers all you want, but they’re the vanguard of a popular movement. While I’m not a member, its nice to see that Americans are still capable of getting roused and getting angry.
November 1, 2010 at 10:06 PM #626145Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
As Louis XIV, believing France to be at the absolute height of her power, famously uttered, “L’Etat c’est Moi”. The Ancien Regime is passing, Brian, can you feel it?[/quote]
For Halloween, did you dress up as Marie Antoinette holding a cake?
I had a Catholic education and I know my European history quite well. π
Louis XIV was quite right to proclaim l’etat c’est moi. He was still young king and was about to build France into the most powerful state in the Western world.
Louis XV’s reign was a period of royal indulgence and pleasure. Louis XVI helped the American revolution but was unable to hold on to his crown.[/quote]
Brian: I won’t delve into your Catholic education, save to say you’re obviously an intelligent person, and I would expect that having such an education would at least give you a sense of acceptance when it came to Christians of other denominations. I don’t hold with the beliefs of most evangelicals, since I believe that their theology is based on an incorrect interpretation of the bible, but I don’t think that they’re all inbred rednecks, either. Catholicism is generally pretty accepting, as a rule (Concho’s stab at the Spanish Inquisition notwithstanding), and I’d expect someone who claims to be open-minded, tolerant and who “loves his fellow man” to fall into this category.
As far as your grasp of French history, specifically the rule of the Bourbons, goes: Do you see any parallels in America’s present? Ruinously expensive foreign wars, sclerotic rulers and politicians, a devalued currency; the list goes on and on. Whether you’re willing to admit that the Dems belong to the group, we’re ruled by a venal, self-serving professional political class, which is as out of touch with the populace as the Bourbons were (and we all know how that turned out). Mock the Tea Partiers all you want, but they’re the vanguard of a popular movement. While I’m not a member, its nice to see that Americans are still capable of getting roused and getting angry.
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