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January 20, 2014 at 9:26 AM #769904January 20, 2014 at 9:27 AM #769905scaredyclassicParticipant
I can’t figure out what is fair.
January 20, 2014 at 9:31 AM #769907FlyerInHiGuest[quote=6packscaredy][quote=FlyerInHI]
How much is my virility worth?[/quote]
The market will let you know.[/quote]
Good answer. So far I have no buyer. I think there is too much supply, not enough demand.
January 20, 2014 at 9:36 AM #769909NotCrankyParticipant[quote=6packscaredy][quote=CA renter][quote=6packscaredy]Stay at home dad’s give up their most study handsome years?[/quote]
No, but they do give up major income earning potential when they are SAHDs.[/quote]
Speculative.[/quote]
Definitely speculative.January 20, 2014 at 9:40 AM #769910NotCrankyParticipant[quote=6packscaredy]The psychic rewards to the SaHP seem like a form of some compensation. The worker may have paid with her soul to stay with her work while the “sacrificer” experienced numerous moments of transcendent bliss.[/quote]
Getting what suits you to some degree more than what doesn’t is compensation. Soul pays sometimes either way.
January 20, 2014 at 9:46 AM #769911scaredyclassicParticipantThe thought of being a stay at home dad makes me feel ill.
Although I loved Alternadad by Neal pollock.
But I wouldn’t be as opposed to caring for grandchildren.
I would prefer to work though.
January 20, 2014 at 10:26 AM #769912FlyerInHiGuest[quote=6packscaredy]The thought of being a stay at home dad makes me feel ill.
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Me too. That’s why stay at home would have to be in the big city. I would hate to have my life limited to interacting with the same circle of a couple hundred people all the time. I’d have to deal with their unreasonable demands all the time.
January 20, 2014 at 10:32 AM #769914FlyerInHiGuestCAr, whatever schemes you come up to protect stay at home parents, whom you believe to be mostly women who offer youth beauty and fertility, depend on the cooperation of men. The whole thing falls apart with equality of the sexes and when men and women say “screw it, what’s good for the other sex is good for me too.”
January 20, 2014 at 10:39 AM #769908FlyerInHiGuestI listened to this American Life episode yesterday about the Jewish husband who refuses to give his wife a divorce unless she pays him millions.
What came across to me was that it’s all about incentives and leverage.
January 20, 2014 at 10:59 AM #769915FlyerInHiGuest[quote=Blogstar] May as well not get married and instead carry on like a relationship/ opposite sex know-it-all on the Internet.[/quote]
Technology is changing things. Most people now meet on the Net so the social institutions such as church and even parents have less say in how young people interact.
Whereas porn was only playboy magazine before, it’s widely available online now. Not seen as “perverted” anymore. There is 3D porn so virtual sex could be the next tech advancement.
Marijuana is being legalized. Why not prostitution like in holland?
January 20, 2014 at 11:18 AM #769916NotCrankyParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=6packscaredy]The thought of being a stay at home dad makes me feel ill.
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Me too. That’s why stay at home would have to be in the big city. I would hate to have my life limited to interacting with the same circle of a couple hundred people all the time. I’d have to deal with their unreasonable demands all the time.[/quote]
Sounds like it worked out pretty well for you, Scaredy.
I knew I wanted more of a hybrid situation since I was 16. I got the idea from a few families around my house. Never had expectations of following the traditional SAHM pattern or mega career. That much dependency /choice annihilation would be terrifying. I think this next generation is more comfortable with full time SAHD…not sure. If the guy had his own money before getting married that would help. I see stay at home moms with nearly grown children that went in completely for that role and they don’t seem too nervous…probably had some money before they got married, or see a decent nest egg built up in the family. Maybe they trust their spouses tremendously….probably a mix.
I am glad for people who go the career route too. Who would fix our teeth and do other valuable things if people didn’t do that?
January 20, 2014 at 11:20 AM #769917kev374ParticipantPrior to getting married make sure you are absolutely and totally CRAZY about your partner, anything less and you would be a fool to marry him/her.
As I said earlier way too many people are willing to settle.
If a woman wants children, is now 34 and realizes that time is running out, settles and marries some bloke that she thinks is a nice guy but does not truly want him or is attracted to him… then years later tells him to fly off, then is it fair?
Women know that if they settle now they can get children then later on they can always divorce if it doesn’t turn out well and get a good settlement and good alimony as well.. a win win situation.
I hear so much about men “wasting” a woman’s valuable fertile years but what about the above situation where women settle and in the end ruin a man’s life?
You should read this book:
January 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM #769918NotCrankyParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar] May as well not get married and instead carry on like a relationship/ opposite sex know-it-all on the Internet.[/quote]
Technology is changing things. Most people now meet on the Net so the social institutions such as church and even parents have less say in how young people interact.
Whereas porn was only playboy magazine before, it’s widely available online now. Not seen as “perverted” anymore. There is 3D porn so virtual sex could be the next tech advancement.
Marijuana is being legalized. Why not prostitution like in holland?[/quote]
I would prefer it was all legal. Not to say I recommend use, or especially dependency on any of it…but legal. Dependency might even be ok for some people. A healthy individual or social body will be healthy and sick one will be sick…kind of like a plant…a healthy plant in a healthy environment is less vulnerable to pests and disease. This stuff is self regulating here as it is in the Netherlands and crippling excess should be nothing more than a signal that something is wrong…making these things illegal hasn’t really done anything good.
January 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM #769920spdrunParticipantThe thought of being a stay at home dad makes me feel ill.
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I would prefer to work though.But why work 9-5 or 8-6? One couple I knew (actually my doctor back in the 80s) — wife was a pediatrician, husband was an architect by training, fixed houses, rented them, but mainly did his thing during the kids’ school hours and on weekends so he could also take care of the kids after they were done with school.
January 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM #769919spdrunParticipantMost people now meet on the Net so the social institutions such as church and even parents have less say in how young people interact.
I wouldn’t say “most” — maybe about 20-25% of couples if that. I actually know more people that met at work, through mutual friends, or even went to school together, for what it’s worth.
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