Democrats in general oppose this bill but then overwhelmingly pass it????

[Coronita]

[quote=socrattt]Fluw, by no means was I taking your comment as an endorsement. I don’t believe in politics these days either and I am in the same position as you. I have been blessed in the form of business over the last few years and I did what very few did, saved my money. While friends were speaking of enormous potential of profits in buying a home, I laughed.

My next question would be when does the EU take over this government and when will oil be converted to the Euro? Scary thoughts but probably not far from reality. [/quote]

You know, I’m gonna sound too optimistic here for the piggington board. But I really don’t think U.S. is all doom and gloom. If you stop and think about it, U.S. (while it is currently screwed up) is more integrated with the world than you think.

If you travelled to Europe lately, the first thing you’d notice is the european markets are getting trashed. Again, all those people that got out of the U.S. stock market and took cover in european markets would tell you if their still in those mutual funds today, they’re seeing just as big of a correction (if not larger especially in emerging markets) than here. I was in spain recently, and even with the weak dollar versus Euro, you could find good deals.

Also, I’m counting on the more youthful generation (such as yourself) to get us out of this mess. Generally, you folks are smarter than us, you actually care more about the environment and society than us, so I have hope you folks will do the right things (unlike my ancestors). You folks will just have to learn how to out smart, out innovate all those folks from India,China,Europe,etc. It’s been done before, it’ll happen again.

Trivial fact: why must all pilots that fly must speak english? Think about it.

Anyway, things are pretty screwed up right now. No doubt. But it’s actually a good thing for younger people. Which would you rather have. A $100/share stock hoping for a $100/share price. Or a $10/share price with the opportunity to see a $50/share over the next decade.

I’m kinda envious of the younger generation. Because you folks are gonna have an opportunity that so many of us Generation X’ers didn’t have. You won’t have highly inflated asset prices. You’ve avoided the stock market bubble, you avoided the housing bubble. Both equity and housing is going to be at the floor for you to pick up. What more can you ask for? It’s a great time to be young!

[socrattt]

Agreed, everything is revolved around the US economy, but will greed and power ever take a back seat in our economy for the young guys like me to ever get involved in actually making this country a better place for future generations? That is why I have such a negative view of our current status.

I am busy working on some large alternative energy projects, yet seem to struggle getting any help from our government on the side of taxes and federal subsidies. We need to make this country much more energy efficient, but neither party really helps us young guys succeed. It usually ends up in the hands of Uncle Sam to be spent on projects like buying bad debt. 🙂

[socrattt]

Agreed, everything is revolved around the US economy, but will greed and power ever take a back seat in our economy for the young guys like me to ever get involved in actually making this country a better place for future generations? That is why I have such a negative view of our current status.

I am busy working on some large alternative energy projects, yet seem to struggle getting any help from our government on the side of taxes and federal subsidies. We need to make this country much more energy efficient, but neither party really helps us young guys succeed. It usually ends up in the hands of Uncle Sam to be spent on projects like buying bad debt. 🙂

[socrattt]

Agreed, everything is revolved around the US economy, but will greed and power ever take a back seat in our economy for the young guys like me to ever get involved in actually making this country a better place for future generations? That is why I have such a negative view of our current status.

I am busy working on some large alternative energy projects, yet seem to struggle getting any help from our government on the side of taxes and federal subsidies. We need to make this country much more energy efficient, but neither party really helps us young guys succeed. It usually ends up in the hands of Uncle Sam to be spent on projects like buying bad debt. 🙂

[socrattt]

Agreed, everything is revolved around the US economy, but will greed and power ever take a back seat in our economy for the young guys like me to ever get involved in actually making this country a better place for future generations? That is why I have such a negative view of our current status.

I am busy working on some large alternative energy projects, yet seem to struggle getting any help from our government on the side of taxes and federal subsidies. We need to make this country much more energy efficient, but neither party really helps us young guys succeed. It usually ends up in the hands of Uncle Sam to be spent on projects like buying bad debt. 🙂

[socrattt]

Agreed, everything is revolved around the US economy, but will greed and power ever take a back seat in our economy for the young guys like me to ever get involved in actually making this country a better place for future generations? That is why I have such a negative view of our current status.

I am busy working on some large alternative energy projects, yet seem to struggle getting any help from our government on the side of taxes and federal subsidies. We need to make this country much more energy efficient, but neither party really helps us young guys succeed. It usually ends up in the hands of Uncle Sam to be spent on projects like buying bad debt. 🙂

[Djshakes]

[quote=patientlywaiting]In order to understand what is happening, you have to understand politics.

Democrats did the right thing for the country, even though that meant siding with Bush. Republicans didn’t.

Guys, it’s actually very admirable of you to admit that you’re voting your pocketbooks.

Unfortunately, the majority of Republican voters in the heartland (or in Lakeside) don’t vote their pocketbooks. They vote on issues such as faith, abortion, gay marriage, etc…

As a progressive, I should be kinder but as far as I’m concerned, those “poor” Republican voters are simply hopeless. I say “let them eat cake”. But liberals have “bleeding hearts” and can’t do that.

I can understand people in Carmel Valley or La Jolla voting their pocketbooks but those Republican voters in rural Mississippi are simply dumb.

So FLU, as a well-to-do professional, you should be happy that idiots are born everyday.

[/quote]
You are dumber than you sound if you actually believe that any politician (no matter what party) is looking out for anyone other than themselves. Bottom line, if a polictician comes up with an economic policy…normall it is crap. For example, the community reinvestment act. Sure, those “bleeding hearts” had well intentions….but just because ideological intentions were good, doesn’t mean the implementation is going to create good results.

[Djshakes]

[quote=patientlywaiting]In order to understand what is happening, you have to understand politics.

Democrats did the right thing for the country, even though that meant siding with Bush. Republicans didn’t.

Guys, it’s actually very admirable of you to admit that you’re voting your pocketbooks.

Unfortunately, the majority of Republican voters in the heartland (or in Lakeside) don’t vote their pocketbooks. They vote on issues such as faith, abortion, gay marriage, etc…

As a progressive, I should be kinder but as far as I’m concerned, those “poor” Republican voters are simply hopeless. I say “let them eat cake”. But liberals have “bleeding hearts” and can’t do that.

I can understand people in Carmel Valley or La Jolla voting their pocketbooks but those Republican voters in rural Mississippi are simply dumb.

So FLU, as a well-to-do professional, you should be happy that idiots are born everyday.

[/quote]
You are dumber than you sound if you actually believe that any politician (no matter what party) is looking out for anyone other than themselves. Bottom line, if a polictician comes up with an economic policy…normall it is crap. For example, the community reinvestment act. Sure, those “bleeding hearts” had well intentions….but just because ideological intentions were good, doesn’t mean the implementation is going to create good results.

[Djshakes]

[quote=patientlywaiting]In order to understand what is happening, you have to understand politics.

Democrats did the right thing for the country, even though that meant siding with Bush. Republicans didn’t.

Guys, it’s actually very admirable of you to admit that you’re voting your pocketbooks.

Unfortunately, the majority of Republican voters in the heartland (or in Lakeside) don’t vote their pocketbooks. They vote on issues such as faith, abortion, gay marriage, etc…

As a progressive, I should be kinder but as far as I’m concerned, those “poor” Republican voters are simply hopeless. I say “let them eat cake”. But liberals have “bleeding hearts” and can’t do that.

I can understand people in Carmel Valley or La Jolla voting their pocketbooks but those Republican voters in rural Mississippi are simply dumb.

So FLU, as a well-to-do professional, you should be happy that idiots are born everyday.

[/quote]
You are dumber than you sound if you actually believe that any politician (no matter what party) is looking out for anyone other than themselves. Bottom line, if a polictician comes up with an economic policy…normall it is crap. For example, the community reinvestment act. Sure, those “bleeding hearts” had well intentions….but just because ideological intentions were good, doesn’t mean the implementation is going to create good results.

[Djshakes]

[quote=patientlywaiting]In order to understand what is happening, you have to understand politics.

Democrats did the right thing for the country, even though that meant siding with Bush. Republicans didn’t.

Guys, it’s actually very admirable of you to admit that you’re voting your pocketbooks.

Unfortunately, the majority of Republican voters in the heartland (or in Lakeside) don’t vote their pocketbooks. They vote on issues such as faith, abortion, gay marriage, etc…

As a progressive, I should be kinder but as far as I’m concerned, those “poor” Republican voters are simply hopeless. I say “let them eat cake”. But liberals have “bleeding hearts” and can’t do that.

I can understand people in Carmel Valley or La Jolla voting their pocketbooks but those Republican voters in rural Mississippi are simply dumb.

So FLU, as a well-to-do professional, you should be happy that idiots are born everyday.

[/quote]
You are dumber than you sound if you actually believe that any politician (no matter what party) is looking out for anyone other than themselves. Bottom line, if a polictician comes up with an economic policy…normall it is crap. For example, the community reinvestment act. Sure, those “bleeding hearts” had well intentions….but just because ideological intentions were good, doesn’t mean the implementation is going to create good results.

[Djshakes]

[quote=patientlywaiting]In order to understand what is happening, you have to understand politics.

Democrats did the right thing for the country, even though that meant siding with Bush. Republicans didn’t.

Guys, it’s actually very admirable of you to admit that you’re voting your pocketbooks.

Unfortunately, the majority of Republican voters in the heartland (or in Lakeside) don’t vote their pocketbooks. They vote on issues such as faith, abortion, gay marriage, etc…

As a progressive, I should be kinder but as far as I’m concerned, those “poor” Republican voters are simply hopeless. I say “let them eat cake”. But liberals have “bleeding hearts” and can’t do that.

I can understand people in Carmel Valley or La Jolla voting their pocketbooks but those Republican voters in rural Mississippi are simply dumb.

So FLU, as a well-to-do professional, you should be happy that idiots are born everyday.

[/quote]
You are dumber than you sound if you actually believe that any politician (no matter what party) is looking out for anyone other than themselves. Bottom line, if a polictician comes up with an economic policy…normall it is crap. For example, the community reinvestment act. Sure, those “bleeding hearts” had well intentions….but just because ideological intentions were good, doesn’t mean the implementation is going to create good results.

[Coronita]

[quote=socrattt]Agreed, everything is revolved around the US economy, but will greed and power ever take a back seat in our economy for the young guys like me to ever get involved in actually making this country a better place for future generations? That is why I have such a negative view of our current status.

I am busy working on some large alternative energy projects, yet seem to struggle getting any help from our government on the side of taxes and federal subsidies. We need to make this country much more energy efficient, but neither party really helps us young guys succeed. It usually ends up in the hands of Uncle Sam to be spent on projects like buying bad debt. :)[/quote]

Actually bailout 2.O included tax incentives for alternative energy funding, so you see, it’s not all that bad.

Second, truely innovative ideas will find funding in the private sector as well. The fed might be broke, but private equity sit exists. It’s really not doom and gloom. Being young, you really don’t have to worry about all the risks in the economy right now. See, for instance, my co just recently let go a bunch of experienced 10-15 year folks, but we’re hiring a bunch of college grads and 2-5 year folks etc. Call it cost cutting,etc but you younger folks aren’t having aproblem finding opprtunities even in this market. If you were in your 50ies ir 60ies that need to tap that 401k soon, yeah I can understand why you’d be freaking out now. But if you were close to retirement, you should have been is cash like assets to begin eith and not equity. Anyway, cheer up. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I only wish I had more money now. If I were single I’d be throwing the entire house at select equities right about now.

(Please don’t take my financial advice. It’s not in your best interest…:))

[Coronita]

[quote=socrattt]Agreed, everything is revolved around the US economy, but will greed and power ever take a back seat in our economy for the young guys like me to ever get involved in actually making this country a better place for future generations? That is why I have such a negative view of our current status.

I am busy working on some large alternative energy projects, yet seem to struggle getting any help from our government on the side of taxes and federal subsidies. We need to make this country much more energy efficient, but neither party really helps us young guys succeed. It usually ends up in the hands of Uncle Sam to be spent on projects like buying bad debt. :)[/quote]

Actually bailout 2.O included tax incentives for alternative energy funding, so you see, it’s not all that bad.

Second, truely innovative ideas will find funding in the private sector as well. The fed might be broke, but private equity sit exists. It’s really not doom and gloom. Being young, you really don’t have to worry about all the risks in the economy right now. See, for instance, my co just recently let go a bunch of experienced 10-15 year folks, but we’re hiring a bunch of college grads and 2-5 year folks etc. Call it cost cutting,etc but you younger folks aren’t having aproblem finding opprtunities even in this market. If you were in your 50ies ir 60ies that need to tap that 401k soon, yeah I can understand why you’d be freaking out now. But if you were close to retirement, you should have been is cash like assets to begin eith and not equity. Anyway, cheer up. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I only wish I had more money now. If I were single I’d be throwing the entire house at select equities right about now.

(Please don’t take my financial advice. It’s not in your best interest…:))

[Coronita]

[quote=socrattt]Agreed, everything is revolved around the US economy, but will greed and power ever take a back seat in our economy for the young guys like me to ever get involved in actually making this country a better place for future generations? That is why I have such a negative view of our current status.

I am busy working on some large alternative energy projects, yet seem to struggle getting any help from our government on the side of taxes and federal subsidies. We need to make this country much more energy efficient, but neither party really helps us young guys succeed. It usually ends up in the hands of Uncle Sam to be spent on projects like buying bad debt. :)[/quote]

Actually bailout 2.O included tax incentives for alternative energy funding, so you see, it’s not all that bad.

Second, truely innovative ideas will find funding in the private sector as well. The fed might be broke, but private equity sit exists. It’s really not doom and gloom. Being young, you really don’t have to worry about all the risks in the economy right now. See, for instance, my co just recently let go a bunch of experienced 10-15 year folks, but we’re hiring a bunch of college grads and 2-5 year folks etc. Call it cost cutting,etc but you younger folks aren’t having aproblem finding opprtunities even in this market. If you were in your 50ies ir 60ies that need to tap that 401k soon, yeah I can understand why you’d be freaking out now. But if you were close to retirement, you should have been is cash like assets to begin eith and not equity. Anyway, cheer up. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I only wish I had more money now. If I were single I’d be throwing the entire house at select equities right about now.

(Please don’t take my financial advice. It’s not in your best interest…:))

[Coronita]

[quote=socrattt]Agreed, everything is revolved around the US economy, but will greed and power ever take a back seat in our economy for the young guys like me to ever get involved in actually making this country a better place for future generations? That is why I have such a negative view of our current status.

I am busy working on some large alternative energy projects, yet seem to struggle getting any help from our government on the side of taxes and federal subsidies. We need to make this country much more energy efficient, but neither party really helps us young guys succeed. It usually ends up in the hands of Uncle Sam to be spent on projects like buying bad debt. :)[/quote]

Actually bailout 2.O included tax incentives for alternative energy funding, so you see, it’s not all that bad.

Second, truely innovative ideas will find funding in the private sector as well. The fed might be broke, but private equity sit exists. It’s really not doom and gloom. Being young, you really don’t have to worry about all the risks in the economy right now. See, for instance, my co just recently let go a bunch of experienced 10-15 year folks, but we’re hiring a bunch of college grads and 2-5 year folks etc. Call it cost cutting,etc but you younger folks aren’t having aproblem finding opprtunities even in this market. If you were in your 50ies ir 60ies that need to tap that 401k soon, yeah I can understand why you’d be freaking out now. But if you were close to retirement, you should have been is cash like assets to begin eith and not equity. Anyway, cheer up. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I only wish I had more money now. If I were single I’d be throwing the entire house at select equities right about now.

(Please don’t take my financial advice. It’s not in your best interest…:))

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