Democrats Falling Off A Cliff…

[Anonymous]

[quote=partypup]we are now living in extraordinary, dangerous and exciting times where anything is possible.[/quote]

So this is your conclusion?

Can you name one time/place in all of human history where the above statement was not true?

I can think of lots of times/places where it was even more true (especially the “dangerous” part.)

We live in the most prosperous time in the most prosperous place that has ever existed. Anyone that can read this message board has more freedom and opportunity than 99% of all the people whom have ever lived in history.

Of course you know this.

And please don’t make the claim that somehow all of this is going to be lost because of a national health care bill or any other mundane legislation.

So why are you cheering for the whole system to collapse? — So that somehow things can get “better?”

This display of over-exaggeration has been entertaining, but I think I’ll switch over to the sports pages now…

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
We have one party running the country and it’s the financial-media-corporate-military industrial complex. If *big* capital is challenged, the financial colony within our national Petri dish shape shifts into a Gila monster and squirts venom on the idea and shits money all over Capitol Hill. And just a hint, the heads of capital don’t care about yours and will legislate their way into it when they want it. What mask do you want your robber to wear. Government or corporate? You decide.
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You make a good point Arraya.

But what do you expect? Whatever system there is in the world, it’s always to protect the top elite.

We just need leaders with some compassion who understand that sharing is good for the economy and grows the pie (and that makes capital even bigger).

For example, a healthy population is a more productive and wealthy population. We just need to take some of the wealth away from the health care interests so that we can all be a little healthier and wealthier.

Human progress is about making baby steps. You can’t have everything you want in one swoop.

Short of revolution (which will damage the economy and throw millions of people into poverty) you have the choice between Democrats and Republicans. Pick the best choice.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
We have one party running the country and it’s the financial-media-corporate-military industrial complex. If *big* capital is challenged, the financial colony within our national Petri dish shape shifts into a Gila monster and squirts venom on the idea and shits money all over Capitol Hill. And just a hint, the heads of capital don’t care about yours and will legislate their way into it when they want it. What mask do you want your robber to wear. Government or corporate? You decide.
[/quote]

You make a good point Arraya.

But what do you expect? Whatever system there is in the world, it’s always to protect the top elite.

We just need leaders with some compassion who understand that sharing is good for the economy and grows the pie (and that makes capital even bigger).

For example, a healthy population is a more productive and wealthy population. We just need to take some of the wealth away from the health care interests so that we can all be a little healthier and wealthier.

Human progress is about making baby steps. You can’t have everything you want in one swoop.

Short of revolution (which will damage the economy and throw millions of people into poverty) you have the choice between Democrats and Republicans. Pick the best choice.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
We have one party running the country and it’s the financial-media-corporate-military industrial complex. If *big* capital is challenged, the financial colony within our national Petri dish shape shifts into a Gila monster and squirts venom on the idea and shits money all over Capitol Hill. And just a hint, the heads of capital don’t care about yours and will legislate their way into it when they want it. What mask do you want your robber to wear. Government or corporate? You decide.
[/quote]

You make a good point Arraya.

But what do you expect? Whatever system there is in the world, it’s always to protect the top elite.

We just need leaders with some compassion who understand that sharing is good for the economy and grows the pie (and that makes capital even bigger).

For example, a healthy population is a more productive and wealthy population. We just need to take some of the wealth away from the health care interests so that we can all be a little healthier and wealthier.

Human progress is about making baby steps. You can’t have everything you want in one swoop.

Short of revolution (which will damage the economy and throw millions of people into poverty) you have the choice between Democrats and Republicans. Pick the best choice.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
We have one party running the country and it’s the financial-media-corporate-military industrial complex. If *big* capital is challenged, the financial colony within our national Petri dish shape shifts into a Gila monster and squirts venom on the idea and shits money all over Capitol Hill. And just a hint, the heads of capital don’t care about yours and will legislate their way into it when they want it. What mask do you want your robber to wear. Government or corporate? You decide.
[/quote]

You make a good point Arraya.

But what do you expect? Whatever system there is in the world, it’s always to protect the top elite.

We just need leaders with some compassion who understand that sharing is good for the economy and grows the pie (and that makes capital even bigger).

For example, a healthy population is a more productive and wealthy population. We just need to take some of the wealth away from the health care interests so that we can all be a little healthier and wealthier.

Human progress is about making baby steps. You can’t have everything you want in one swoop.

Short of revolution (which will damage the economy and throw millions of people into poverty) you have the choice between Democrats and Republicans. Pick the best choice.

[briansd1]

[quote=Arraya]
We have one party running the country and it’s the financial-media-corporate-military industrial complex. If *big* capital is challenged, the financial colony within our national Petri dish shape shifts into a Gila monster and squirts venom on the idea and shits money all over Capitol Hill. And just a hint, the heads of capital don’t care about yours and will legislate their way into it when they want it. What mask do you want your robber to wear. Government or corporate? You decide.
[/quote]

You make a good point Arraya.

But what do you expect? Whatever system there is in the world, it’s always to protect the top elite.

We just need leaders with some compassion who understand that sharing is good for the economy and grows the pie (and that makes capital even bigger).

For example, a healthy population is a more productive and wealthy population. We just need to take some of the wealth away from the health care interests so that we can all be a little healthier and wealthier.

Human progress is about making baby steps. You can’t have everything you want in one swoop.

Short of revolution (which will damage the economy and throw millions of people into poverty) you have the choice between Democrats and Republicans. Pick the best choice.

[Zeitgeist]

Arraya is correct. This is the vote heard ’round the world, to paraphrase Emerson and it is not about Scott Brown. This is about the politicos refusing to listen to the people they represent and yes it has been happening for years, but with savvy voters doing their homework, the Washington elite are not getting away with it the way they used to.

Pup, thanks for the support and thanks for posting on this election. You are a courageous poster. When I post it goes to the bottom of the heap because some of the other Piggs presume to know who I am and dislike me in absentia. Many of those same people refuse to read the posts and apparently just read enough to respond using Saul Alinsky tactics. Mostly I am about freedom and commonsense. I am more aligned with Thomas Paine than Thomas Jefferson. We live in a great country and it is our duty to make our elected representatives live up to this greatness and not turn the United States into an ant hill of worker slaves, who serve the bloated Queen in Washington, DC.

[Zeitgeist]

Arraya is correct. This is the vote heard ’round the world, to paraphrase Emerson and it is not about Scott Brown. This is about the politicos refusing to listen to the people they represent and yes it has been happening for years, but with savvy voters doing their homework, the Washington elite are not getting away with it the way they used to.

Pup, thanks for the support and thanks for posting on this election. You are a courageous poster. When I post it goes to the bottom of the heap because some of the other Piggs presume to know who I am and dislike me in absentia. Many of those same people refuse to read the posts and apparently just read enough to respond using Saul Alinsky tactics. Mostly I am about freedom and commonsense. I am more aligned with Thomas Paine than Thomas Jefferson. We live in a great country and it is our duty to make our elected representatives live up to this greatness and not turn the United States into an ant hill of worker slaves, who serve the bloated Queen in Washington, DC.

[Zeitgeist]

Arraya is correct. This is the vote heard ’round the world, to paraphrase Emerson and it is not about Scott Brown. This is about the politicos refusing to listen to the people they represent and yes it has been happening for years, but with savvy voters doing their homework, the Washington elite are not getting away with it the way they used to.

Pup, thanks for the support and thanks for posting on this election. You are a courageous poster. When I post it goes to the bottom of the heap because some of the other Piggs presume to know who I am and dislike me in absentia. Many of those same people refuse to read the posts and apparently just read enough to respond using Saul Alinsky tactics. Mostly I am about freedom and commonsense. I am more aligned with Thomas Paine than Thomas Jefferson. We live in a great country and it is our duty to make our elected representatives live up to this greatness and not turn the United States into an ant hill of worker slaves, who serve the bloated Queen in Washington, DC.

[Zeitgeist]

Arraya is correct. This is the vote heard ’round the world, to paraphrase Emerson and it is not about Scott Brown. This is about the politicos refusing to listen to the people they represent and yes it has been happening for years, but with savvy voters doing their homework, the Washington elite are not getting away with it the way they used to.

Pup, thanks for the support and thanks for posting on this election. You are a courageous poster. When I post it goes to the bottom of the heap because some of the other Piggs presume to know who I am and dislike me in absentia. Many of those same people refuse to read the posts and apparently just read enough to respond using Saul Alinsky tactics. Mostly I am about freedom and commonsense. I am more aligned with Thomas Paine than Thomas Jefferson. We live in a great country and it is our duty to make our elected representatives live up to this greatness and not turn the United States into an ant hill of worker slaves, who serve the bloated Queen in Washington, DC.

[Zeitgeist]

Arraya is correct. This is the vote heard ’round the world, to paraphrase Emerson and it is not about Scott Brown. This is about the politicos refusing to listen to the people they represent and yes it has been happening for years, but with savvy voters doing their homework, the Washington elite are not getting away with it the way they used to.

Pup, thanks for the support and thanks for posting on this election. You are a courageous poster. When I post it goes to the bottom of the heap because some of the other Piggs presume to know who I am and dislike me in absentia. Many of those same people refuse to read the posts and apparently just read enough to respond using Saul Alinsky tactics. Mostly I am about freedom and commonsense. I am more aligned with Thomas Paine than Thomas Jefferson. We live in a great country and it is our duty to make our elected representatives live up to this greatness and not turn the United States into an ant hill of worker slaves, who serve the bloated Queen in Washington, DC.

[Arraya]

Another D voter in Mass

From the front line of this battle (I’m from MA), I’ll give you my observations.

This vote was not really a repudiation of Obama as much as it was a very poor politician going up against a seemingly very good one. Scott Brown looks like a normal guy, talks like a normal guy, has a visible family (daughter was on American Idol and made it quite far, wife is a local TV news reporter), and has the ability to connect with normal people. Conversely, Martha Coakley has a bad name (I mean bad as in “Martha Coakley”, which sounds like the kid you made fun of in 3rd grade), has an odd accent, is not very personable, and doesn’t seem to understand the value of personal connections. She comes off as aloof and perhaps a bit arrogant.

Most of the people I know voted for Scott Brown, not because they liked his stance on the various issues – in fact, the overwhelming majority could not tell you anything meaningful about the man or his positions; it seems to have been more of a general sense that he’s like one of us, and somehow Martha is not. Most people I talk to don’t have any clue about what the issues are regarding health care reform and financial reform. They just liked him better.

As for me, this was the first election of my adult life that I did not participate in. I’ve decided that to vote would be to endorse the bullshit system in it’s current form, and I’m simply unwilling to do that. Bring me a candidate that brings me real hope for change and maybe I’ll show up. But I’m not playing this fucking game anymore.

[Arraya]

Another D voter in Mass

From the front line of this battle (I’m from MA), I’ll give you my observations.

This vote was not really a repudiation of Obama as much as it was a very poor politician going up against a seemingly very good one. Scott Brown looks like a normal guy, talks like a normal guy, has a visible family (daughter was on American Idol and made it quite far, wife is a local TV news reporter), and has the ability to connect with normal people. Conversely, Martha Coakley has a bad name (I mean bad as in “Martha Coakley”, which sounds like the kid you made fun of in 3rd grade), has an odd accent, is not very personable, and doesn’t seem to understand the value of personal connections. She comes off as aloof and perhaps a bit arrogant.

Most of the people I know voted for Scott Brown, not because they liked his stance on the various issues – in fact, the overwhelming majority could not tell you anything meaningful about the man or his positions; it seems to have been more of a general sense that he’s like one of us, and somehow Martha is not. Most people I talk to don’t have any clue about what the issues are regarding health care reform and financial reform. They just liked him better.

As for me, this was the first election of my adult life that I did not participate in. I’ve decided that to vote would be to endorse the bullshit system in it’s current form, and I’m simply unwilling to do that. Bring me a candidate that brings me real hope for change and maybe I’ll show up. But I’m not playing this fucking game anymore.

[Arraya]

Another D voter in Mass

From the front line of this battle (I’m from MA), I’ll give you my observations.

This vote was not really a repudiation of Obama as much as it was a very poor politician going up against a seemingly very good one. Scott Brown looks like a normal guy, talks like a normal guy, has a visible family (daughter was on American Idol and made it quite far, wife is a local TV news reporter), and has the ability to connect with normal people. Conversely, Martha Coakley has a bad name (I mean bad as in “Martha Coakley”, which sounds like the kid you made fun of in 3rd grade), has an odd accent, is not very personable, and doesn’t seem to understand the value of personal connections. She comes off as aloof and perhaps a bit arrogant.

Most of the people I know voted for Scott Brown, not because they liked his stance on the various issues – in fact, the overwhelming majority could not tell you anything meaningful about the man or his positions; it seems to have been more of a general sense that he’s like one of us, and somehow Martha is not. Most people I talk to don’t have any clue about what the issues are regarding health care reform and financial reform. They just liked him better.

As for me, this was the first election of my adult life that I did not participate in. I’ve decided that to vote would be to endorse the bullshit system in it’s current form, and I’m simply unwilling to do that. Bring me a candidate that brings me real hope for change and maybe I’ll show up. But I’m not playing this fucking game anymore.

[Arraya]

Another D voter in Mass

From the front line of this battle (I’m from MA), I’ll give you my observations.

This vote was not really a repudiation of Obama as much as it was a very poor politician going up against a seemingly very good one. Scott Brown looks like a normal guy, talks like a normal guy, has a visible family (daughter was on American Idol and made it quite far, wife is a local TV news reporter), and has the ability to connect with normal people. Conversely, Martha Coakley has a bad name (I mean bad as in “Martha Coakley”, which sounds like the kid you made fun of in 3rd grade), has an odd accent, is not very personable, and doesn’t seem to understand the value of personal connections. She comes off as aloof and perhaps a bit arrogant.

Most of the people I know voted for Scott Brown, not because they liked his stance on the various issues – in fact, the overwhelming majority could not tell you anything meaningful about the man or his positions; it seems to have been more of a general sense that he’s like one of us, and somehow Martha is not. Most people I talk to don’t have any clue about what the issues are regarding health care reform and financial reform. They just liked him better.

As for me, this was the first election of my adult life that I did not participate in. I’ve decided that to vote would be to endorse the bullshit system in it’s current form, and I’m simply unwilling to do that. Bring me a candidate that brings me real hope for change and maybe I’ll show up. But I’m not playing this fucking game anymore.

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