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March 28, 2015 at 11:10 AM #784271March 28, 2015 at 1:07 PM #784272
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Participant[quote=nla]IMO, if you are sacrificing your retirement and drastically change your lifestyle to send your kids to an Ivy, you really can’t afford it.[/quote]
Agree, but some would disagree.March 28, 2015 at 2:21 PM #784274FlyerInHi
GuestI used to live in a 4 bedroom house with separate family and living room.
I’m happier now in a 1 bedroom in the right location.The debate here is someehat academic. One should be so lucky to have children who are accepted to an Ivy League.
March 28, 2015 at 10:56 PM #784280Anonymous
GuestIf your kids are accepted to Ivy then they are probably smart which is a good thing. But if they are smart, motivated, disciplined, etc, they will likely be successful regardless of what college they attend (if any at all). For most professional careers, Ivy undergrad degree is not a differentiator. The Ivy grads I know are at best working side by side with State school grads. Others I know are doing nothing professionally.
March 29, 2015 at 9:01 AM #784285GuestA student doesn’t know he will get accepted until he applies.
So in practical terms do parents who don’t want to pay tell their kids:
1. Don’t apply because we can’t afford it; or
2. Sorry, you applied and got accepted, but we can’t afford it; so go to a state school.Why do you necessarily have to put a degree or a skill to use? For example, most of the time, kids take piano lessons to become more accomplished humans, not to make money playing concerts.
Like I said before, I’d rather my wife be a Harvard graduate than a graduate of the cosmetology academy. Maybe she will never use the degree professionally, but the degree has more value to me.
If anything, I know that she will contribute better genes to my kids. That may all sound “heartless” and “loveless”, but if we are going to plan for retirement, why not plan the kids we have?
March 29, 2015 at 1:59 PM #784287scaredyclassic
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]A student doesn’t know he will get accepted until he applies.
So in practical terms do parents who don’t want to pay tell their kids:
1. Don’t apply because we can’t afford it; or
2. Sorry, you applied and got accepted, but we can’t afford it; so go to a state school.Why do you necessarily have to put a degree or a skill to use? For example, most of the time, kids take piano lessons to become more accomplished humans, not to make money playing concerts.
Like I said before, I’d rather my wife be a Harvard graduate than a graduate of the cosmetology academy. Maybe she will never use the degree professionally, but the degree has more value to me.
If anything, I know that she will contribute better genes to my kids. That may all sound “heartless” and “loveless”, but if we are going to plan for retirement, why not plan the kids we have?[/quote]
my cousins and their wives went to plain colleges their kids went ivy. I did the reverse.
Better genes?
March 29, 2015 at 10:53 PM #784296Guest[quote=scaredyclassic]
my cousins and their wives went to plain colleges their kids went ivy. I did the reverse.
Better genes?[/quote]
Not guaranteed better genes, simply better assurance of quality goods.
March 29, 2015 at 11:28 PM #784298Guest[quote=FlyerInHi]A student doesn’t know he will get accepted until he applies.
So in practical terms do parents who don’t want to pay tell their kids:
1. Don’t apply because we can’t afford it; or
2. Sorry, you applied and got accepted, but we can’t afford it; so go to a state school.Why do you necessarily have to put a degree or a skill to use? For example, most of the time, kids take piano lessons to become more accomplished humans, not to make money playing concerts.
Like I said before, I’d rather my wife be a Harvard graduate than a graduate of the cosmetology academy. Maybe she will never use the degree professionally, but the degree has more value to me.
If anything, I know that she will contribute better genes to my kids. That may all sound “heartless” and “loveless”, but if we are going to plan for retirement, why not plan the kids we have?[/quote]
The quality of your argument for the merits of Ivy education demonstrate that you yourself did not have such education. Maybe you have “Ivy envy”?
Unfortunately, in the real world, nobody gives a shit if your kid went to Ivy or not. For damn sure nobody gives a shit if he can play piano. If you want to teach him a more useful skill, better to take golf lessons.
March 29, 2015 at 11:38 PM #784300GuestI know parents who are very proud when their kids play the piano at gatherings.
March 30, 2015 at 3:15 AM #784303Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]A student doesn’t know he will get accepted until he applies.
So in practical terms do parents who don’t want to pay tell their kids:
1. Don’t apply because we can’t afford it; or
2. Sorry, you applied and got accepted, but we can’t afford it; so go to a state school.Why do you necessarily have to put a degree or a skill to use? For example, most of the time, kids take piano lessons to become more accomplished humans, not to make money playing concerts.
Like I said before, I’d rather my wife be a Harvard graduate than a graduate of the cosmetology academy. Maybe she will never use the degree professionally, but the degree has more value to me.
If anything, I know that she will contribute better genes to my kids. That may all sound “heartless” and “loveless”, but if we are going to plan for retirement, why not plan the kids we have?[/quote]
being accepted by an ivy league school doesn’t alter you in any way. neither does applying. Your kid is “Ivy material” regardless of applications filed.
now hogwarts, if your kid gets in there, I will be really fucking impressed.
March 30, 2015 at 3:26 AM #784301ParticipantWell sure. Parents are proud of all kinds of stuff. That’s one of the sicknesses and pleasures of parenthood.
I get choked up and proud over things no one else in the universe could care about. That’s one reason to stay married. No one else but your spouse cares or cares to talk in detail about that stuff!
March 30, 2015 at 3:27 AM #784302Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=scaredyclassic]
my cousins and their wives went to plain colleges their kids went ivy. I did the reverse.
Better genes?[/quote]
Not guaranteed better genes, simply better assurance of quality goods.[/quote]
uhh…maybe if you were purchasing a mail order bride or groom. If you get to actually inspect the merchandise yourself, you’ll know Better than if a school name is branded on their ass.
Huge student debt can interfere with marriage. Even in the face of desperate love a regular person would be screwed to marry someone who can’t easily service their massive student loans. Kinda like marrying some with child support payments due for 3 sep. Kids every month.. only a true fool would partner up with that situation…
March 30, 2015 at 9:52 AM #784306GuestFor those on this board that are of the opinion to send their kids “go to the best college you can afford”, I am interested in your opinions regarding K-12 education. I would assume anyone with that elitist of an attitude towards College would certainly not allow their precious child to waste away their minds in a San Diego public school.
So financially that is even a bigger deal. If you pay for 12 years of private schooling vs. 12 years of free public education that is huge financial drain. What is the ROI on that? I am fairly certain that there are successful kids who get into great colleges (Ivy included) even from some of the lower rated SD public high schools.
March 30, 2015 at 11:00 AM #784310GuestWhat about not going to college at all? Might be better ROI.
The argument to each his own, everyone is different, blah blah.. All the standards we set are then out the window. Nothing is then better than anything else.March 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM #784311Guest[quote=FlyerInHi]What about not going to college at all? Might be better ROI.
The argument to each his own, everyone is different, blah blah.. All the standards we set are then out the window. Nothing is then better than anything else.[/quote]I would argue that College is a waste of time and money for the majority of students. But that is another topic.
You didn’t address my question regarding attitudes toward public/private K-12. Frankly, that is a much more relevant topic for parents in San Diego.
If it is so important for you that your kid gets accepted to Ivy league, than surely you wouldn’t risk your kid being contaminated by the SD public schools.
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