OT: Corrupt government

[Anonymous]

[quote=paramount]List of some of the Unconstitutional Agencies:
….[/quote]

Did Rick Perry finally remember?

[NotCranky]

EPA might not be unconstitutional but it can be so extreme in power grabs that it seems like it should be.

[spdrun]

But not having it would be worse.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Blogstar]EPA might not be unconstitutional but it can be so extreme in power grabs that it seems like it should be.[/quote]I think that the various environmental agencies in SD County should have been more thorough in their studies of the environmental impact at the base of Mt Miguel and southward. As it stands, it is now full of (mostly tightly packed) residential development from the Sweetwater Reservoir all the way down to nearly the northern edge of Brown Field (about 8-9 miles, including the west/southwest sides of the base of the transmitter) as a result of the residential “building spree” of the early/mid ’00’s.

These unwise choices have caused the coyote population living out there to run scared into town. By the time they are able to successfully sprint into my (urban) area 9-10 miles west (near SD Bay), they are emaciated, thirsty and starving. Several small pets of my neighbors have been killed while in their front yards … even tied up (one small dog was killed right in front of its owner)! I’ve helped their distraught owners transport and bury three of these pet bodies where there was just basically eyes, spine and a few entrials left, if that. It’s really sad that Big Development has been allowed to essentially destroy the habitat of these wild animals only to add to the headaches and congestion of the area with overbuilding. These bad decisions also led to gross overpopulation and lack of safety for the pets of those residents of even the long-established areas.

We have only our “esteemed” greedy (and corrupt) leaders to thank for this travesty.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Blogstar]EPA might not be unconstitutional but it can be so extreme in power grabs that it seems like it should be.[/quote]

If “extreme’ power grabs make a federal organization unconstitutional, then much of the military would be unconstitutional.

[scaredyclassic]

Wait, why is the epa “unconstitutional”?

[all]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Wait, why is the epa “unconstitutional”?[/quote]

Because the founding parents said nothing about it?

[scaredyclassic]

Mmm. That’s not exactly the standard.

[all]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Mmm. That’s not exactly the standard.[/quote]
Because King John’s Bible says thou shalt not regulate toxic fumes at federal level?

[ucodegen]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Wait, why is the epa “unconstitutional”?[/quote]
It has the potential to create and enforce laws extra-judicially and outside of the constitutionally stated process (laws are supposed to be written/enacted by Congress, signed by Pres, reviewed by Judicial). There is a somewhat accepted sidestep that Congress enacted the EPA, so it is now allowed, though still is a question whether the EPA can create laws in and of itself outside of Congress.

[ucodegen]

[quote=bearishgurl]These unwise choices have caused the coyote population living out there to run scared into town. By the time they are able to successfully sprint into my (urban) area 9-10 miles west (near SD Bay), they are emaciated, thirsty and starving. Several small pets of my neighbors have been killed while in their front yards … even tied up (one small dog was killed right in front of its owner)! I’ve helped their distraught owners transport and bury three of these pet bodies where there was just basically eyes, spine and a few entrials left, if that. It’s really sad that Big Development has been allowed to essentially destroy the habitat of these wild animals only to add to the headaches and congestion of the area with overbuilding.[/quote] While Big Development may contribute to the problem, homeowners have also contributed as well as the legislature. Dog food dishes left outside overnight with food in it, uncontrolled trash, leaving little dogs/cats outside overnight (little dog = Chicken McNugget to a coyote). The other problem is that people like to see deer and try to entice them closer to their property. The coyotes follow the deer as well as other wild animals. The final thing that has contributed is that coyotes no longer fear man – in part due to laws now in place. We are not legally allowed to take action against coyotes on or around our property (as if coyotes don’t learn and adapt).

[ucodegen]

@flu
Considering the comments on the EPA, you might want to check this out:
http://news.yahoo.com/epa-putting-foot-down-modifications-003034829.html

[Anonymous]

[quote=ucodegen][quote=scaredyclassic]Wait, why is the epa “unconstitutional”?[/quote]
It has the potential to create and enforce laws extra-judicially and outside of the constitutionally stated process (laws are supposed to be written/enacted by Congress, signed by Pres, reviewed by Judicial). There is a somewhat accepted sidestep that Congress enacted the EPA, so it is now allowed, though still is a question whether the EPA can create laws in and of itself outside of Congress.[/quote]

The military has its own legal system, with courts, judges, prisons, and even the death sentence.

All because of a law passed by congress.

The EPA is no different. It was granted authority within a certain scope by congress. Congress can also take that authority away. Government wouldn’t work if congress had to approve every detail of every organization.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=ucodegen][quote=scaredyclassic]Wait, why is the epa “unconstitutional”?[/quote]
It has the potential to create and enforce laws extra-judicially and outside of the constitutionally stated process (laws are supposed to be written/enacted by Congress, signed by Pres, reviewed by Judicial). There is a somewhat accepted sidestep that Congress enacted the EPA, so it is now allowed, though still is a question whether the EPA can create laws in and of itself outside of Congress.[/quote]

I remember from my middle school civics class that congress writes the laws but the president develops the regulations.

For example the FCC is thinking about forcing cable companies to allow customers to buy their own cable boxes. Congress never wrote anything like that. The executive interprets the law and comes up with regulations.

The courts don’t review laws until someone who has standing sues.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ucodegen][quote=bearishgurl]These unwise choices have caused the coyote population living out there to run scared into town. By the time they are able to successfully sprint into my (urban) area 9-10 miles west (near SD Bay), they are emaciated, thirsty and starving. Several small pets of my neighbors have been killed while in their front yards … even tied up (one small dog was killed right in front of its owner)! I’ve helped their distraught owners transport and bury three of these pet bodies where there was just basically eyes, spine and a few entrials left, if that. It’s really sad that Big Development has been allowed to essentially destroy the habitat of these wild animals only to add to the headaches and congestion of the area with overbuilding.[/quote] While Big Development may contribute to the problem, homeowners have also contributed as well as the legislature. Dog food dishes left outside overnight with food in it, uncontrolled trash, leaving little dogs/cats outside overnight (little dog = Chicken McNugget to a coyote). The other problem is that people like to see deer and try to entice them closer to their property. The coyotes follow the deer as well as other wild animals. The final thing that has contributed is that coyotes no longer fear man – in part due to laws now in place. We are not legally allowed to take action against coyotes on or around our property (as if coyotes don’t learn and adapt).[/quote]Yes, uco, one of my neighbors who lost their beloved cat to a coyote had cat food sitting out on their front porch for years …. but no more.

My point was that City should have stuck it to Big Development with a requirement for a years-long, invasive EIR BEFORE issuing subdivision permits for this HUGE swath of former “open space” which is literally backed right up to the mountains and countryside of SE SD County. The results of this would have surely caused them to severely downscale or reject outright the vast majority of Big D’s plans. We as urban dwellers of SAME CITY (8.5 to 12 miles away from this sorry a$$ over-development) should NOT have to suffer the ill effects of this poorly-planned debacle since we have not chosen to relocate there.

Instead, our (former) Council chose to roll around in the sheets with Big Development for YEARS all the while with stars in their eyes and dreaming of a massive increase in property tax coffers. Their successors, now forced to sleep in that same bed, know exactly how well that worked out for them … and how it affected the service levels of ALL city residents, since they now have LESS employees at this VERY late date to serve MORE residents :=0

In fact, City had no business whatsoever annexing county land to begin with into what is now 91914 and 91915. It heavily impacted the quality of life for existing residents to their detriment.

Ahhh, yes, back in 1982, the CA Legislature sanctioned our Council and Big D to share the same bed, blankets, sheets and pillows in the form of:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mello-Roos

I’ve posted here before that Sen. Henry Mello has to be rolling in his grave with disgust and disbelief of how his signature MR Act has been used and abused by CA counties and municipalities over the years as a vehicle to destroy every inch of open space wild animal habitat even remotely “close” (1-3 hours away) from job centers!

In our case, these wild, starving coyotes have had to traverse 9 miles or more over/under 2-3 FREEWAYS, as well as thru large culverts and drainage canals (both dirt and concrete) to end up sprinting emaciated into downtown Chula Vista in “attack-mode search” of a random small dog or cat to “snack on” for their very survival.

My area was first developed 80-90 years ago and we’re not in a fire zone or on the edge of development in any way, shape or form. Unlike new-construction buyers, we urban residents didn’t sign up for this (or “deer watching”) and don’t deserve our security and peaceful existence compromised in this fashion. I have small pet(s) and it’s a frightening thought that my dog could be fatally attacked in a split second while walking on a leash next to me.

I’m glad to see that Big D has finally seen fit to leave town but the damage is already done. None of this had to happen and we have only our corrupt (former) leadership to thank for it (most of whom are now undoubtedly collecting public pensions, if qualified).

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