Chula Vista better schools and newer construction

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]Thanks KIBU, I heard from my co-workers that actually 52 rush hour traffic got worse since they opened that extension.

Changing commute to non-rush hour is doable, but even so we are talking 45′ door to door for me and maybe 40′ for my husband (from Otay Ranch). On the other hand, PQ/Sabre Springs commute got worse according to my co-workers.

I disagree about San Marcos schools. The high school has improved substantially – API the same as the Carlsbad ones. I don’t remember the other schools. Commute – like Chula Vista more or less (+/- 5′ at non-rush)

Clairemont – let’s say you manage to choice the kid into UC schools – which is still a hassle and UC schools are not exceptionally great, except perhaps Curie. Still for the age of the houses and the school quality I think it’s still too expensive.

Mira Mesa is of course, still on the table due to the shorter commute and lower prices. Still, we did not like the general area, beside the Calle Cristobal one – that is pretty limiting to a small area. We will revisit it though, for sure.

I know, very hard decision! Maybe the prices will go down more by the time we have to buy….[/quote]

Scarlett, you are correct that the commute from Chula Vista to/from LJ/UCSD is 40-45 mins in the non-rush hours. In the rush hours, I would add 10-15 mins to that, barring any accidents. However, this time frame is only applicable to/from 91910 and 91911. These two zips (except for a small pocket of 91911) DO NOT have “newer” (>=year 2000) construction. The other 3 Chula Vista zips will take longer for your commute, unless you each pay the approx $88 month to use the SR-125 toll road to SR-54, SR-94, I-8 or SR-52 … or commute to work together to save one monthly toll.

I wouldn’t count on being able to “choice” into UC schools as a Clairemont resident unless your children qualify for VEEP status or a magnet program (into Spreckels, NOT Curie). If you want Curie for your kids, you will have to move into its attendance area, IMO.

Chula Vista Elementary School District IS a very good district. It has many top-rated schools. Sweetwater Union HS District ALSO has several great schools. In addition, SUHSD has a partnership with SDSU called “Compact for Success.”

See: http://coe.sdsu.edu/compact/partners.php

The compact guarantees admission to SDSU to an incoming freshman from SUHSD with a HS GPA of 3.00.

[Scarlett]

My coworker from Otay Ranch claims 30-35′ at non-rush and 45-60′ at rush hour. I believe he’s taking the toll road though.

Most of the schools in Chula Vista have indeed good scores, especially east of 805. When I looked at demographics in schools though, I was surprised to see that the whites is actually a very small minority, and in quite a few Hispanics are like 80% or more. Obviously I knew there were a lot of Hispanics (and I have absolutely nothing against them) but I did not think that the whites are in such a minority in schools there, like 10%. Only in Otay Ranch there were more whites, and asians. I worry it may not be a good fit for us. I like diversity and all and I don’t expect for the whites to be a majority, but less than 25% whites concerns me a little, epsecially when one race/ethnicity constitutes more than 75% and it’s not a diverse racial mix.

[Scarlett]

My coworker from Otay Ranch claims 30-35′ at non-rush and 45-60′ at rush hour. I believe he’s taking the toll road though.

Most of the schools in Chula Vista have indeed good scores, especially east of 805. When I looked at demographics in schools though, I was surprised to see that the whites is actually a very small minority, and in quite a few Hispanics are like 80% or more. Obviously I knew there were a lot of Hispanics (and I have absolutely nothing against them) but I did not think that the whites are in such a minority in schools there, like 10%. Only in Otay Ranch there were more whites, and asians. I worry it may not be a good fit for us. I like diversity and all and I don’t expect for the whites to be a majority, but less than 25% whites concerns me a little, epsecially when one race/ethnicity constitutes more than 75% and it’s not a diverse racial mix.

[Scarlett]

My coworker from Otay Ranch claims 30-35′ at non-rush and 45-60′ at rush hour. I believe he’s taking the toll road though.

Most of the schools in Chula Vista have indeed good scores, especially east of 805. When I looked at demographics in schools though, I was surprised to see that the whites is actually a very small minority, and in quite a few Hispanics are like 80% or more. Obviously I knew there were a lot of Hispanics (and I have absolutely nothing against them) but I did not think that the whites are in such a minority in schools there, like 10%. Only in Otay Ranch there were more whites, and asians. I worry it may not be a good fit for us. I like diversity and all and I don’t expect for the whites to be a majority, but less than 25% whites concerns me a little, epsecially when one race/ethnicity constitutes more than 75% and it’s not a diverse racial mix.

[Scarlett]

My coworker from Otay Ranch claims 30-35′ at non-rush and 45-60′ at rush hour. I believe he’s taking the toll road though.

Most of the schools in Chula Vista have indeed good scores, especially east of 805. When I looked at demographics in schools though, I was surprised to see that the whites is actually a very small minority, and in quite a few Hispanics are like 80% or more. Obviously I knew there were a lot of Hispanics (and I have absolutely nothing against them) but I did not think that the whites are in such a minority in schools there, like 10%. Only in Otay Ranch there were more whites, and asians. I worry it may not be a good fit for us. I like diversity and all and I don’t expect for the whites to be a majority, but less than 25% whites concerns me a little, epsecially when one race/ethnicity constitutes more than 75% and it’s not a diverse racial mix.

[Scarlett]

My coworker from Otay Ranch claims 30-35′ at non-rush and 45-60′ at rush hour. I believe he’s taking the toll road though.

Most of the schools in Chula Vista have indeed good scores, especially east of 805. When I looked at demographics in schools though, I was surprised to see that the whites is actually a very small minority, and in quite a few Hispanics are like 80% or more. Obviously I knew there were a lot of Hispanics (and I have absolutely nothing against them) but I did not think that the whites are in such a minority in schools there, like 10%. Only in Otay Ranch there were more whites, and asians. I worry it may not be a good fit for us. I like diversity and all and I don’t expect for the whites to be a majority, but less than 25% whites concerns me a little, epsecially when one race/ethnicity constitutes more than 75% and it’s not a diverse racial mix.

[bearishgurl]

Scarlett, you would need to be on the ground to see various schools let out in the afternoon. Reading API demographic “statistics” on the internet can be deceiving. Just because a student has a Hispanic-sounding name … or has a “Hispanic” grandparent doesn’t make them “Hispanic.” Did you ever stop to think that it might benefit a school (in the form of receipt of various funds from Federal programs) if they encourage their students taking the CSTs to check a demographic box they most “identify with,” especially students of mixed heritage? What do you think is the true percentage of these students from ALL OVER SD County? Would you feel more comfortable placing your children in a school with at least 50% students of Chinese origin?

In addition, the term “Hispanic” includes those Caucasian individuals from Puerto Rico, the east coast of Mexico, Mexico City, South America, Spain and Portugal. Not every “Hispanic” originates from Baja, CA and/or needs ESL classes.

And what do these high API scores say about the teachers if a school is “perceived” as having a predominately “Hispanic” student population who scores high overall on the CSTs??

If you’re REALLY interested in Chula Vista, ask yourself these questions and plant yourself on the ground when the schools in the attendance area you are interested in are dismissed for the afternoon and you will learn the truth. Better yet, if you visit an elem school, note which “ethnicity” you perceive the parents/grandparents to have who are picking up these children.

Parents do themselves and their children a huge disservice by basing school desirability strictly on statistical information taken from the internet without checking out the actual school for themselves, IMHO.

[bearishgurl]

Scarlett, you would need to be on the ground to see various schools let out in the afternoon. Reading API demographic “statistics” on the internet can be deceiving. Just because a student has a Hispanic-sounding name … or has a “Hispanic” grandparent doesn’t make them “Hispanic.” Did you ever stop to think that it might benefit a school (in the form of receipt of various funds from Federal programs) if they encourage their students taking the CSTs to check a demographic box they most “identify with,” especially students of mixed heritage? What do you think is the true percentage of these students from ALL OVER SD County? Would you feel more comfortable placing your children in a school with at least 50% students of Chinese origin?

In addition, the term “Hispanic” includes those Caucasian individuals from Puerto Rico, the east coast of Mexico, Mexico City, South America, Spain and Portugal. Not every “Hispanic” originates from Baja, CA and/or needs ESL classes.

And what do these high API scores say about the teachers if a school is “perceived” as having a predominately “Hispanic” student population who scores high overall on the CSTs??

If you’re REALLY interested in Chula Vista, ask yourself these questions and plant yourself on the ground when the schools in the attendance area you are interested in are dismissed for the afternoon and you will learn the truth. Better yet, if you visit an elem school, note which “ethnicity” you perceive the parents/grandparents to have who are picking up these children.

Parents do themselves and their children a huge disservice by basing school desirability strictly on statistical information taken from the internet without checking out the actual school for themselves, IMHO.

[bearishgurl]

Scarlett, you would need to be on the ground to see various schools let out in the afternoon. Reading API demographic “statistics” on the internet can be deceiving. Just because a student has a Hispanic-sounding name … or has a “Hispanic” grandparent doesn’t make them “Hispanic.” Did you ever stop to think that it might benefit a school (in the form of receipt of various funds from Federal programs) if they encourage their students taking the CSTs to check a demographic box they most “identify with,” especially students of mixed heritage? What do you think is the true percentage of these students from ALL OVER SD County? Would you feel more comfortable placing your children in a school with at least 50% students of Chinese origin?

In addition, the term “Hispanic” includes those Caucasian individuals from Puerto Rico, the east coast of Mexico, Mexico City, South America, Spain and Portugal. Not every “Hispanic” originates from Baja, CA and/or needs ESL classes.

And what do these high API scores say about the teachers if a school is “perceived” as having a predominately “Hispanic” student population who scores high overall on the CSTs??

If you’re REALLY interested in Chula Vista, ask yourself these questions and plant yourself on the ground when the schools in the attendance area you are interested in are dismissed for the afternoon and you will learn the truth. Better yet, if you visit an elem school, note which “ethnicity” you perceive the parents/grandparents to have who are picking up these children.

Parents do themselves and their children a huge disservice by basing school desirability strictly on statistical information taken from the internet without checking out the actual school for themselves, IMHO.

[bearishgurl]

Scarlett, you would need to be on the ground to see various schools let out in the afternoon. Reading API demographic “statistics” on the internet can be deceiving. Just because a student has a Hispanic-sounding name … or has a “Hispanic” grandparent doesn’t make them “Hispanic.” Did you ever stop to think that it might benefit a school (in the form of receipt of various funds from Federal programs) if they encourage their students taking the CSTs to check a demographic box they most “identify with,” especially students of mixed heritage? What do you think is the true percentage of these students from ALL OVER SD County? Would you feel more comfortable placing your children in a school with at least 50% students of Chinese origin?

In addition, the term “Hispanic” includes those Caucasian individuals from Puerto Rico, the east coast of Mexico, Mexico City, South America, Spain and Portugal. Not every “Hispanic” originates from Baja, CA and/or needs ESL classes.

And what do these high API scores say about the teachers if a school is “perceived” as having a predominately “Hispanic” student population who scores high overall on the CSTs??

If you’re REALLY interested in Chula Vista, ask yourself these questions and plant yourself on the ground when the schools in the attendance area you are interested in are dismissed for the afternoon and you will learn the truth. Better yet, if you visit an elem school, note which “ethnicity” you perceive the parents/grandparents to have who are picking up these children.

Parents do themselves and their children a huge disservice by basing school desirability strictly on statistical information taken from the internet without checking out the actual school for themselves, IMHO.

[bearishgurl]

Scarlett, you would need to be on the ground to see various schools let out in the afternoon. Reading API demographic “statistics” on the internet can be deceiving. Just because a student has a Hispanic-sounding name … or has a “Hispanic” grandparent doesn’t make them “Hispanic.” Did you ever stop to think that it might benefit a school (in the form of receipt of various funds from Federal programs) if they encourage their students taking the CSTs to check a demographic box they most “identify with,” especially students of mixed heritage? What do you think is the true percentage of these students from ALL OVER SD County? Would you feel more comfortable placing your children in a school with at least 50% students of Chinese origin?

In addition, the term “Hispanic” includes those Caucasian individuals from Puerto Rico, the east coast of Mexico, Mexico City, South America, Spain and Portugal. Not every “Hispanic” originates from Baja, CA and/or needs ESL classes.

And what do these high API scores say about the teachers if a school is “perceived” as having a predominately “Hispanic” student population who scores high overall on the CSTs??

If you’re REALLY interested in Chula Vista, ask yourself these questions and plant yourself on the ground when the schools in the attendance area you are interested in are dismissed for the afternoon and you will learn the truth. Better yet, if you visit an elem school, note which “ethnicity” you perceive the parents/grandparents to have who are picking up these children.

Parents do themselves and their children a huge disservice by basing school desirability strictly on statistical information taken from the internet without checking out the actual school for themselves, IMHO.

[sdrealtor]

What nonsense! We all know the combined percentage of the “Hispanics” in Chula Vista from Puerto Rico, South America, Spain and Portugal has got to be neglible.

BTW, I checked the school API’s and was pleasantly surpised. However I couldnt find any that would be considered “top rated” schools in the county. There were 3 schools with scores between 900 and 920 which is very good and my guess is they would be in those darn newer Mello Roos infested communities you so abhor. Most of the schools were between 850 and 900 which are good solid scores.

Is this another example of you never trying to encourage people to consider specific places to live?

[sdrealtor]

What nonsense! We all know the combined percentage of the “Hispanics” in Chula Vista from Puerto Rico, South America, Spain and Portugal has got to be neglible.

BTW, I checked the school API’s and was pleasantly surpised. However I couldnt find any that would be considered “top rated” schools in the county. There were 3 schools with scores between 900 and 920 which is very good and my guess is they would be in those darn newer Mello Roos infested communities you so abhor. Most of the schools were between 850 and 900 which are good solid scores.

Is this another example of you never trying to encourage people to consider specific places to live?

[sdrealtor]

What nonsense! We all know the combined percentage of the “Hispanics” in Chula Vista from Puerto Rico, South America, Spain and Portugal has got to be neglible.

BTW, I checked the school API’s and was pleasantly surpised. However I couldnt find any that would be considered “top rated” schools in the county. There were 3 schools with scores between 900 and 920 which is very good and my guess is they would be in those darn newer Mello Roos infested communities you so abhor. Most of the schools were between 850 and 900 which are good solid scores.

Is this another example of you never trying to encourage people to consider specific places to live?

[sdrealtor]

What nonsense! We all know the combined percentage of the “Hispanics” in Chula Vista from Puerto Rico, South America, Spain and Portugal has got to be neglible.

BTW, I checked the school API’s and was pleasantly surpised. However I couldnt find any that would be considered “top rated” schools in the county. There were 3 schools with scores between 900 and 920 which is very good and my guess is they would be in those darn newer Mello Roos infested communities you so abhor. Most of the schools were between 850 and 900 which are good solid scores.

Is this another example of you never trying to encourage people to consider specific places to live?

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