Carmel Valley Single Family Home below 600K

[justbought]

temecu: i can respect posts made with same “decorum” and reasoning as yours. But there seem to be some rather flaming remarks for people who bought recently to live, not to make money. yes, I think I’ll take your advice stop coming to piggington at least for a while, as i’ve contributed all i could. I’ll check back in 2009 and see if the same people are still patiently waiting.

[justbought]

temecu: i can respect posts made with same “decorum” and reasoning as yours. But there seem to be some rather flaming remarks for people who bought recently to live, not to make money. yes, I think I’ll take your advice stop coming to piggington at least for a while, as i’ve contributed all i could. I’ll check back in 2009 and see if the same people are still patiently waiting.

[justbought]

temecu: i can respect posts made with same “decorum” and reasoning as yours. But there seem to be some rather flaming remarks for people who bought recently to live, not to make money. yes, I think I’ll take your advice stop coming to piggington at least for a while, as i’ve contributed all i could. I’ll check back in 2009 and see if the same people are still patiently waiting.

[SD Realtor]

justbought I think there actually is a pretty mixed bag of posters here. I cannot tell you how many times I have read a post, then composed a long reply and then simply deleted it. Personally I find myself coming here just as much as I always have but not responding to as many posts as I used to because it either seems repetitive or it simply is not worth it. I think there is alot of value here… and yes there is alot of bitterness but don’t let it get to you.

as for you tg… well my friend I have spent a fair amount of time late this evening looking at the jags team stats because I REALLY want to lay some lumber on them tomorrow but I am not sure yet… jags need to cover 3 points… should be an easy game as the bolts have won a single road game this season against the ponies…. man I wish I wasn’t such a wus…

Now getting back to what you wrote I think it was very nice… yet the one thing that you kind of glossed over was that those same people for whom you are rooting for, well many types like them also did buy and some of them did sell as well. I know many of them who were young couples, and yes even a firefighter and even a teacher who bought back in 02/03 and sold in 05/06. These younguns did very well for themselves and have a great leg up on those that did not. As horrid as the lending standards were these same people would not have been able to do what they did without them. Now does that justify the lax standards? Not at all. I guess I am just pointing out that there is always another side to any and every story. Just like some of those nice people who didn’t sell may indeed lose thier home.

I don’t wish ill will upon anyone but yes I want the market to come down so I can buy as well. I am bitter about the past moreso because I did not take advantage of it, rather then because I am now priced out of what I really want. I do blame the lending industry, the administration, the real estate industry… yet I blame myself much much more because it was opportunity missed. I think many others do as well… maybe they don’t say it.

The cynical side of me always does believe that there is always a back room full of people making money off the majority of all of us. It doesn’t matter if it is Wall Street, Real Estate, Oil… whatever. It doesn’t matter because there will always be something ya know? It always may feel or seem like we play against a stacked deck. Yet there are plenty of people that take advantage of that… that make the best of it and can cope and ride it for a spell and get ahead… and then get out without losing the nut…

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

justbought I think there actually is a pretty mixed bag of posters here. I cannot tell you how many times I have read a post, then composed a long reply and then simply deleted it. Personally I find myself coming here just as much as I always have but not responding to as many posts as I used to because it either seems repetitive or it simply is not worth it. I think there is alot of value here… and yes there is alot of bitterness but don’t let it get to you.

as for you tg… well my friend I have spent a fair amount of time late this evening looking at the jags team stats because I REALLY want to lay some lumber on them tomorrow but I am not sure yet… jags need to cover 3 points… should be an easy game as the bolts have won a single road game this season against the ponies…. man I wish I wasn’t such a wus…

Now getting back to what you wrote I think it was very nice… yet the one thing that you kind of glossed over was that those same people for whom you are rooting for, well many types like them also did buy and some of them did sell as well. I know many of them who were young couples, and yes even a firefighter and even a teacher who bought back in 02/03 and sold in 05/06. These younguns did very well for themselves and have a great leg up on those that did not. As horrid as the lending standards were these same people would not have been able to do what they did without them. Now does that justify the lax standards? Not at all. I guess I am just pointing out that there is always another side to any and every story. Just like some of those nice people who didn’t sell may indeed lose thier home.

I don’t wish ill will upon anyone but yes I want the market to come down so I can buy as well. I am bitter about the past moreso because I did not take advantage of it, rather then because I am now priced out of what I really want. I do blame the lending industry, the administration, the real estate industry… yet I blame myself much much more because it was opportunity missed. I think many others do as well… maybe they don’t say it.

The cynical side of me always does believe that there is always a back room full of people making money off the majority of all of us. It doesn’t matter if it is Wall Street, Real Estate, Oil… whatever. It doesn’t matter because there will always be something ya know? It always may feel or seem like we play against a stacked deck. Yet there are plenty of people that take advantage of that… that make the best of it and can cope and ride it for a spell and get ahead… and then get out without losing the nut…

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

justbought I think there actually is a pretty mixed bag of posters here. I cannot tell you how many times I have read a post, then composed a long reply and then simply deleted it. Personally I find myself coming here just as much as I always have but not responding to as many posts as I used to because it either seems repetitive or it simply is not worth it. I think there is alot of value here… and yes there is alot of bitterness but don’t let it get to you.

as for you tg… well my friend I have spent a fair amount of time late this evening looking at the jags team stats because I REALLY want to lay some lumber on them tomorrow but I am not sure yet… jags need to cover 3 points… should be an easy game as the bolts have won a single road game this season against the ponies…. man I wish I wasn’t such a wus…

Now getting back to what you wrote I think it was very nice… yet the one thing that you kind of glossed over was that those same people for whom you are rooting for, well many types like them also did buy and some of them did sell as well. I know many of them who were young couples, and yes even a firefighter and even a teacher who bought back in 02/03 and sold in 05/06. These younguns did very well for themselves and have a great leg up on those that did not. As horrid as the lending standards were these same people would not have been able to do what they did without them. Now does that justify the lax standards? Not at all. I guess I am just pointing out that there is always another side to any and every story. Just like some of those nice people who didn’t sell may indeed lose thier home.

I don’t wish ill will upon anyone but yes I want the market to come down so I can buy as well. I am bitter about the past moreso because I did not take advantage of it, rather then because I am now priced out of what I really want. I do blame the lending industry, the administration, the real estate industry… yet I blame myself much much more because it was opportunity missed. I think many others do as well… maybe they don’t say it.

The cynical side of me always does believe that there is always a back room full of people making money off the majority of all of us. It doesn’t matter if it is Wall Street, Real Estate, Oil… whatever. It doesn’t matter because there will always be something ya know? It always may feel or seem like we play against a stacked deck. Yet there are plenty of people that take advantage of that… that make the best of it and can cope and ride it for a spell and get ahead… and then get out without losing the nut…

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

justbought I think there actually is a pretty mixed bag of posters here. I cannot tell you how many times I have read a post, then composed a long reply and then simply deleted it. Personally I find myself coming here just as much as I always have but not responding to as many posts as I used to because it either seems repetitive or it simply is not worth it. I think there is alot of value here… and yes there is alot of bitterness but don’t let it get to you.

as for you tg… well my friend I have spent a fair amount of time late this evening looking at the jags team stats because I REALLY want to lay some lumber on them tomorrow but I am not sure yet… jags need to cover 3 points… should be an easy game as the bolts have won a single road game this season against the ponies…. man I wish I wasn’t such a wus…

Now getting back to what you wrote I think it was very nice… yet the one thing that you kind of glossed over was that those same people for whom you are rooting for, well many types like them also did buy and some of them did sell as well. I know many of them who were young couples, and yes even a firefighter and even a teacher who bought back in 02/03 and sold in 05/06. These younguns did very well for themselves and have a great leg up on those that did not. As horrid as the lending standards were these same people would not have been able to do what they did without them. Now does that justify the lax standards? Not at all. I guess I am just pointing out that there is always another side to any and every story. Just like some of those nice people who didn’t sell may indeed lose thier home.

I don’t wish ill will upon anyone but yes I want the market to come down so I can buy as well. I am bitter about the past moreso because I did not take advantage of it, rather then because I am now priced out of what I really want. I do blame the lending industry, the administration, the real estate industry… yet I blame myself much much more because it was opportunity missed. I think many others do as well… maybe they don’t say it.

The cynical side of me always does believe that there is always a back room full of people making money off the majority of all of us. It doesn’t matter if it is Wall Street, Real Estate, Oil… whatever. It doesn’t matter because there will always be something ya know? It always may feel or seem like we play against a stacked deck. Yet there are plenty of people that take advantage of that… that make the best of it and can cope and ride it for a spell and get ahead… and then get out without losing the nut…

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

justbought I think there actually is a pretty mixed bag of posters here. I cannot tell you how many times I have read a post, then composed a long reply and then simply deleted it. Personally I find myself coming here just as much as I always have but not responding to as many posts as I used to because it either seems repetitive or it simply is not worth it. I think there is alot of value here… and yes there is alot of bitterness but don’t let it get to you.

as for you tg… well my friend I have spent a fair amount of time late this evening looking at the jags team stats because I REALLY want to lay some lumber on them tomorrow but I am not sure yet… jags need to cover 3 points… should be an easy game as the bolts have won a single road game this season against the ponies…. man I wish I wasn’t such a wus…

Now getting back to what you wrote I think it was very nice… yet the one thing that you kind of glossed over was that those same people for whom you are rooting for, well many types like them also did buy and some of them did sell as well. I know many of them who were young couples, and yes even a firefighter and even a teacher who bought back in 02/03 and sold in 05/06. These younguns did very well for themselves and have a great leg up on those that did not. As horrid as the lending standards were these same people would not have been able to do what they did without them. Now does that justify the lax standards? Not at all. I guess I am just pointing out that there is always another side to any and every story. Just like some of those nice people who didn’t sell may indeed lose thier home.

I don’t wish ill will upon anyone but yes I want the market to come down so I can buy as well. I am bitter about the past moreso because I did not take advantage of it, rather then because I am now priced out of what I really want. I do blame the lending industry, the administration, the real estate industry… yet I blame myself much much more because it was opportunity missed. I think many others do as well… maybe they don’t say it.

The cynical side of me always does believe that there is always a back room full of people making money off the majority of all of us. It doesn’t matter if it is Wall Street, Real Estate, Oil… whatever. It doesn’t matter because there will always be something ya know? It always may feel or seem like we play against a stacked deck. Yet there are plenty of people that take advantage of that… that make the best of it and can cope and ride it for a spell and get ahead… and then get out without losing the nut…

SD Realtor

[temeculaguy]

S.D., you make a valid point, I used some broad generalizations but my argument has merit that the market returning to normal will have it’s casualties but it will be better for most of society and the industry as well. Shakeouts are healthy, like fasting or a sweat lodge, a time tested purification.

About the lumber laying, stay away from it. Garrard is coming off an injury and wasn’t that confident in an interview today. He may go down early and it will throw off the scripted plays. Jags are too hot and cold for any lumber, now the pack or the browns, I’ll guarantee those picks. The steelers barely escaped at home vs the brownies, the ravens have far less talent and the pack has found a running game just in time for the weather, total locks.

BTW, if I do decide to throw some lowball offers out, what’s your policy and commission. Are you averse to wasting your time on lowball offers to banks on repos or builders on standing inventory, is the drive to temec worth it for you? my stupid e-mail addy is far too revealing with portions of my real name and I still may have stalkers if I’m lucky, so can you throw up yours? I’m eyeing a few in particular and am thinking of offering 15% below but can justify it with research but don’t need the competition by mentioning it here and now every salesgirl at the builders in town knows who I am (I have stop flirting with well dressed milfs) because I talk like I write and they talk to each other, so the realtors are probably wise to me too and I’d prefer to bring in a ringer.

[temeculaguy]

S.D., you make a valid point, I used some broad generalizations but my argument has merit that the market returning to normal will have it’s casualties but it will be better for most of society and the industry as well. Shakeouts are healthy, like fasting or a sweat lodge, a time tested purification.

About the lumber laying, stay away from it. Garrard is coming off an injury and wasn’t that confident in an interview today. He may go down early and it will throw off the scripted plays. Jags are too hot and cold for any lumber, now the pack or the browns, I’ll guarantee those picks. The steelers barely escaped at home vs the brownies, the ravens have far less talent and the pack has found a running game just in time for the weather, total locks.

BTW, if I do decide to throw some lowball offers out, what’s your policy and commission. Are you averse to wasting your time on lowball offers to banks on repos or builders on standing inventory, is the drive to temec worth it for you? my stupid e-mail addy is far too revealing with portions of my real name and I still may have stalkers if I’m lucky, so can you throw up yours? I’m eyeing a few in particular and am thinking of offering 15% below but can justify it with research but don’t need the competition by mentioning it here and now every salesgirl at the builders in town knows who I am (I have stop flirting with well dressed milfs) because I talk like I write and they talk to each other, so the realtors are probably wise to me too and I’d prefer to bring in a ringer.

[temeculaguy]

S.D., you make a valid point, I used some broad generalizations but my argument has merit that the market returning to normal will have it’s casualties but it will be better for most of society and the industry as well. Shakeouts are healthy, like fasting or a sweat lodge, a time tested purification.

About the lumber laying, stay away from it. Garrard is coming off an injury and wasn’t that confident in an interview today. He may go down early and it will throw off the scripted plays. Jags are too hot and cold for any lumber, now the pack or the browns, I’ll guarantee those picks. The steelers barely escaped at home vs the brownies, the ravens have far less talent and the pack has found a running game just in time for the weather, total locks.

BTW, if I do decide to throw some lowball offers out, what’s your policy and commission. Are you averse to wasting your time on lowball offers to banks on repos or builders on standing inventory, is the drive to temec worth it for you? my stupid e-mail addy is far too revealing with portions of my real name and I still may have stalkers if I’m lucky, so can you throw up yours? I’m eyeing a few in particular and am thinking of offering 15% below but can justify it with research but don’t need the competition by mentioning it here and now every salesgirl at the builders in town knows who I am (I have stop flirting with well dressed milfs) because I talk like I write and they talk to each other, so the realtors are probably wise to me too and I’d prefer to bring in a ringer.

[temeculaguy]

S.D., you make a valid point, I used some broad generalizations but my argument has merit that the market returning to normal will have it’s casualties but it will be better for most of society and the industry as well. Shakeouts are healthy, like fasting or a sweat lodge, a time tested purification.

About the lumber laying, stay away from it. Garrard is coming off an injury and wasn’t that confident in an interview today. He may go down early and it will throw off the scripted plays. Jags are too hot and cold for any lumber, now the pack or the browns, I’ll guarantee those picks. The steelers barely escaped at home vs the brownies, the ravens have far less talent and the pack has found a running game just in time for the weather, total locks.

BTW, if I do decide to throw some lowball offers out, what’s your policy and commission. Are you averse to wasting your time on lowball offers to banks on repos or builders on standing inventory, is the drive to temec worth it for you? my stupid e-mail addy is far too revealing with portions of my real name and I still may have stalkers if I’m lucky, so can you throw up yours? I’m eyeing a few in particular and am thinking of offering 15% below but can justify it with research but don’t need the competition by mentioning it here and now every salesgirl at the builders in town knows who I am (I have stop flirting with well dressed milfs) because I talk like I write and they talk to each other, so the realtors are probably wise to me too and I’d prefer to bring in a ringer.

[temeculaguy]

S.D., you make a valid point, I used some broad generalizations but my argument has merit that the market returning to normal will have it’s casualties but it will be better for most of society and the industry as well. Shakeouts are healthy, like fasting or a sweat lodge, a time tested purification.

About the lumber laying, stay away from it. Garrard is coming off an injury and wasn’t that confident in an interview today. He may go down early and it will throw off the scripted plays. Jags are too hot and cold for any lumber, now the pack or the browns, I’ll guarantee those picks. The steelers barely escaped at home vs the brownies, the ravens have far less talent and the pack has found a running game just in time for the weather, total locks.

BTW, if I do decide to throw some lowball offers out, what’s your policy and commission. Are you averse to wasting your time on lowball offers to banks on repos or builders on standing inventory, is the drive to temec worth it for you? my stupid e-mail addy is far too revealing with portions of my real name and I still may have stalkers if I’m lucky, so can you throw up yours? I’m eyeing a few in particular and am thinking of offering 15% below but can justify it with research but don’t need the competition by mentioning it here and now every salesgirl at the builders in town knows who I am (I have stop flirting with well dressed milfs) because I talk like I write and they talk to each other, so the realtors are probably wise to me too and I’d prefer to bring in a ringer.

[ocrenter]

you know, it seems that some folks on this forum are just waiting to cash-in on misfortunes of others, no matter what the circumstances are. While I am also upset about flippers, I wouldn’t be rubbing my hands waiting for the whole market to crash so that I can have a home while many families (who made some bad decisions) become “homeless”. It’s not like everyone who buys a home is a flipper.

I don’t really think it is about cashing in on the misfortune of others as much as it is about waiting for the artificially inflated prices to return to the norm.

For the folks that bought prior to the run up, good for them. A lot of them did one thing right, they were born a few years earlier. therefore they were already in the work force and bought when they did.

the true victims of the price run up are the folks that were born a few years too late, they got out of school or they just moved into town just in time to find the prices skyrocket.

when the prices were increasing, the public were kept away from the true cause of the run up. they were told this was a legitimate price increase caused by increase in population and the lack of land. two things that the victims could have done. #1, listened to that reasoning and buy something they knew they couldn’t afford, or #2, do their own research and stay out of the market.

I would not come in here and start slamming the community of posters here because they and Rich truly have helped a lot of folks fight that urge to buy, and these folks truly are a whole lot better off for it.

[ocrenter]

you know, it seems that some folks on this forum are just waiting to cash-in on misfortunes of others, no matter what the circumstances are. While I am also upset about flippers, I wouldn’t be rubbing my hands waiting for the whole market to crash so that I can have a home while many families (who made some bad decisions) become “homeless”. It’s not like everyone who buys a home is a flipper.

I don’t really think it is about cashing in on the misfortune of others as much as it is about waiting for the artificially inflated prices to return to the norm.

For the folks that bought prior to the run up, good for them. A lot of them did one thing right, they were born a few years earlier. therefore they were already in the work force and bought when they did.

the true victims of the price run up are the folks that were born a few years too late, they got out of school or they just moved into town just in time to find the prices skyrocket.

when the prices were increasing, the public were kept away from the true cause of the run up. they were told this was a legitimate price increase caused by increase in population and the lack of land. two things that the victims could have done. #1, listened to that reasoning and buy something they knew they couldn’t afford, or #2, do their own research and stay out of the market.

I would not come in here and start slamming the community of posters here because they and Rich truly have helped a lot of folks fight that urge to buy, and these folks truly are a whole lot better off for it.

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