Carmel Valley Monitor

[NotCranky]

New renter as you can see we have been trying to work this out. We all make mistakes.

[New_Renter]

I vote that sdrealtor formally “un-dedicate” the forum to Rustico so we can all move on… 🙂

[New_Renter]

I vote that sdrealtor formally “un-dedicate” the forum to Rustico so we can all move on… 🙂

[gn]

“Clearly sdrealtor is open to suggestions, but in the end if you personally don’t think the data will be useful, you can choose not to read/post in this thread, or start you own forum that you think is more relevant. ”

New_Renter,

To be fair, I have the right to express my opinion here. So, if you don’t like to read my opinion, maybe you can go somewhere else. 🙂

[gn]

“Clearly sdrealtor is open to suggestions, but in the end if you personally don’t think the data will be useful, you can choose not to read/post in this thread, or start you own forum that you think is more relevant. ”

New_Renter,

To be fair, I have the right to express my opinion here. So, if you don’t like to read my opinion, maybe you can go somewhere else. 🙂

[SD Realtor]

Just a note here. Whether it is posting sales stats, active pending ratios, NOD/NOT/REO stuff, or any sort of recurring post… it takes alot of dedication and effort. It may only take 10 or 15 minutes to gather the data and post it, but to do it regularly becomes burdensome. Everyone may not find value in the data but believe me, it is quite valuable. I have done posts where I tried to post alot of recurring stuff but I simply could not keep it up do to being busy. I think it is a great service of sdr to keep up with doing it. Try not to take the data to literally, use it to identify the overall trend. sdr has said many a time that the short sale monitor is not meant to provide exact numbers, (this is because of the mls platform) but it is useful in identifying the growing trend.

In a past post I advertised I would put out active/pending numbers for given zips…It got way to busy for me to keep up. The more entertaining aspect of the blog at least for me is the new fresh posts… I think it is a great thing for sdr to post that info…

This is not aimed as a statement to gn or new_renter or rustico… It is just a thought… everyone absolutely has the right to post opinions.

SD Realtor

[SD Realtor]

Just a note here. Whether it is posting sales stats, active pending ratios, NOD/NOT/REO stuff, or any sort of recurring post… it takes alot of dedication and effort. It may only take 10 or 15 minutes to gather the data and post it, but to do it regularly becomes burdensome. Everyone may not find value in the data but believe me, it is quite valuable. I have done posts where I tried to post alot of recurring stuff but I simply could not keep it up do to being busy. I think it is a great service of sdr to keep up with doing it. Try not to take the data to literally, use it to identify the overall trend. sdr has said many a time that the short sale monitor is not meant to provide exact numbers, (this is because of the mls platform) but it is useful in identifying the growing trend.

In a past post I advertised I would put out active/pending numbers for given zips…It got way to busy for me to keep up. The more entertaining aspect of the blog at least for me is the new fresh posts… I think it is a great thing for sdr to post that info…

This is not aimed as a statement to gn or new_renter or rustico… It is just a thought… everyone absolutely has the right to post opinions.

SD Realtor

[New_Renter]

gn,
If you re-read my post I never said you didn’t have a right to your opinion. Of course you do (as we all do), and I fully recognize that. I merely pointed out an option we all have. Sorry if I offended. I think you made some good points above, for what it’s worth.
Cheers,
New_Renter

[New_Renter]

gn,
If you re-read my post I never said you didn’t have a right to your opinion. Of course you do (as we all do), and I fully recognize that. I merely pointed out an option we all have. Sorry if I offended. I think you made some good points above, for what it’s worth.
Cheers,
New_Renter

[NotCranky]

SD Thanks for your reply and for giving me more insight into the dynamics here. I realized that the crowd is a little more educated, to much more educated and wealthy, than the general populace. More than myself on average I am sure. At a point I decided that completing a degree was a liability for myself so I guess I will never catch up .I have done extremely well from where I started.I would be stratified out if we were in a room instead on the blog. I don’t really care. We all know this stratification has a profound effect on who our clients are. So we deal with it we adjust for our own personality quirks and skills and connections. Like you I have sold in all ranges but mostly to first time buyer,working class people and stable middle class folks. The boom ruined it for me because I just couldn’t sell people this stuff and I think that is where we differ.It made me sick to see all these whores running around (men and women to be pc),with the portraits plastered on their suv’s pimpimg houses.Pardon my language. I only have one client that will ever be upside down and it pains me greatly even though I screamed at them not to buy. Actually they were upside down faster than the ink dried on the docs. I did everything but walk away. They are in a bad way. I don’t want to add to the list so I am cautious. I am too sensitive for this business ultimately. I refuse to exploit my strengths because of it. What is a guy supposed to do?
That is why I don’t just think there will be a bust, I need there to be one if I am to practice much real estate.The people that I know who could safely trade up are staying put for now. I have never prospected/farmed in the traditional ways, not one bit. I probably don’t need the income as long as we live modestly and actually that is a habit.I am a general contractor, I hope to keep myself employed building a small portfolio of middle class rentals to keep for income & retirement. Maybe I will get bigger ideas who knows. I am pretty much doing the same thing with the blog as you, learning, joking around, sharing something if I can. I branch out into the other than housing market topics maybe a little more than either you or sdr.I won’t be willing to or able to spend as much time here as I have in the last few weeks but I look forward to seeing you around so to speak.

Best wishes

[NotCranky]

SD Thanks for your reply and for giving me more insight into the dynamics here. I realized that the crowd is a little more educated, to much more educated and wealthy, than the general populace. More than myself on average I am sure. At a point I decided that completing a degree was a liability for myself so I guess I will never catch up .I have done extremely well from where I started.I would be stratified out if we were in a room instead on the blog. I don’t really care. We all know this stratification has a profound effect on who our clients are. So we deal with it we adjust for our own personality quirks and skills and connections. Like you I have sold in all ranges but mostly to first time buyer,working class people and stable middle class folks. The boom ruined it for me because I just couldn’t sell people this stuff and I think that is where we differ.It made me sick to see all these whores running around (men and women to be pc),with the portraits plastered on their suv’s pimpimg houses.Pardon my language. I only have one client that will ever be upside down and it pains me greatly even though I screamed at them not to buy. Actually they were upside down faster than the ink dried on the docs. I did everything but walk away. They are in a bad way. I don’t want to add to the list so I am cautious. I am too sensitive for this business ultimately. I refuse to exploit my strengths because of it. What is a guy supposed to do?
That is why I don’t just think there will be a bust, I need there to be one if I am to practice much real estate.The people that I know who could safely trade up are staying put for now. I have never prospected/farmed in the traditional ways, not one bit. I probably don’t need the income as long as we live modestly and actually that is a habit.I am a general contractor, I hope to keep myself employed building a small portfolio of middle class rentals to keep for income & retirement. Maybe I will get bigger ideas who knows. I am pretty much doing the same thing with the blog as you, learning, joking around, sharing something if I can. I branch out into the other than housing market topics maybe a little more than either you or sdr.I won’t be willing to or able to spend as much time here as I have in the last few weeks but I look forward to seeing you around so to speak.

Best wishes

[sdrealtor]

Rustico,
I dont see where you got the dedication part. This was never dedicated to you, it was inspired by our back and forth of CV being a strong market. As for the bellweather portion, you seem to be trying to pick a fight for reasons I dont fully understand yet by splitting hairs. If it makes you happy forget the word bellweather and move on. I never proclaimed this the end all, be all of housing indicators. Its a strong market and one that many around here have an interest in. IMHO, it bears watching. I also think you went to far with my 4 day example, my point was simply that inventory was not growing at a time when it is seasonally expected to do so. Thats really all it was.

The first postings on this thread were to set the table and from there we will see which data points merit following. As for followers, i never realized that I had any. If you’ve been around here a while you would know I have been the most villified person on this board. I say what I think and what is on my mind without pulling punches. I encourage you to do the same. What i really would like to see is you add some valuable insight that you have no doubt gained from doing this as long as you have. My sole and stated purpose for being here is to learn, share with others and have a little fun. i’d love to learn something from you rather than just hearing that’s no good or it sucks. I’m sure you have more you could add to the conversation if you cared to.

While my home is not free and clear, i could pay the relatively small mortgage I have off if that was what I chose to do. I feel truly blessed to have what I do and know I am the beneficiary of nothing more than luck in arriving to purchase a home just as the cycle got going. I had no idea this would happen in the market when i bought my home. In fact, I thought if my house was worth in 25 years what it became worth after 5 years i would be very lucky.

As for my clients, I have no dreamers either. I typically work with bright people that want something special and who buy what they can readily afford. The difference is that I like to help ordinary or extraordinary people win at RE in above average ways. If all you do is meet the market average you havent earned your pay. My favorite client of all time is a civil service worker married to a waitress. We are still friends and we actually just got back from the padres game.

I dont like the fact that good people cant afford homes around here. It really bums me out to be honest.

[sdrealtor]

Rustico,
I dont see where you got the dedication part. This was never dedicated to you, it was inspired by our back and forth of CV being a strong market. As for the bellweather portion, you seem to be trying to pick a fight for reasons I dont fully understand yet by splitting hairs. If it makes you happy forget the word bellweather and move on. I never proclaimed this the end all, be all of housing indicators. Its a strong market and one that many around here have an interest in. IMHO, it bears watching. I also think you went to far with my 4 day example, my point was simply that inventory was not growing at a time when it is seasonally expected to do so. Thats really all it was.

The first postings on this thread were to set the table and from there we will see which data points merit following. As for followers, i never realized that I had any. If you’ve been around here a while you would know I have been the most villified person on this board. I say what I think and what is on my mind without pulling punches. I encourage you to do the same. What i really would like to see is you add some valuable insight that you have no doubt gained from doing this as long as you have. My sole and stated purpose for being here is to learn, share with others and have a little fun. i’d love to learn something from you rather than just hearing that’s no good or it sucks. I’m sure you have more you could add to the conversation if you cared to.

While my home is not free and clear, i could pay the relatively small mortgage I have off if that was what I chose to do. I feel truly blessed to have what I do and know I am the beneficiary of nothing more than luck in arriving to purchase a home just as the cycle got going. I had no idea this would happen in the market when i bought my home. In fact, I thought if my house was worth in 25 years what it became worth after 5 years i would be very lucky.

As for my clients, I have no dreamers either. I typically work with bright people that want something special and who buy what they can readily afford. The difference is that I like to help ordinary or extraordinary people win at RE in above average ways. If all you do is meet the market average you havent earned your pay. My favorite client of all time is a civil service worker married to a waitress. We are still friends and we actually just got back from the padres game.

I dont like the fact that good people cant afford homes around here. It really bums me out to be honest.

[NotCranky]

The dedication part was joke. CV is my new favorite indicator. I told you why I took the 4 day example data group the way I did in the previous post.I believe Realtors are trying to dress this pig up all the way down!
I believe that the post soft landing marketing verbiage goes something like this ‘Yeah there are some signs in the market blah blah blah ….still It is going to take so long and inflation adjusts these things…blah blah blah it won’t be worth waiting in the long run.Besides credit is drying up you better go for it!
Any rational person is taking into consideration the fact that interest rates are good, That inflation mitigates some of the burden of a mortgages. So the salesman attempts to do what salesmen do overcome obstacles to transactions. The key to doing that at this point is to lower the expectatons of a crash.I don’t overcome obstacles to transactions. I don’t dress up pigs.I decided a long time ago that my clients had to be more important than my commissions.I am a little suspicious that your leanings are too close to the mainstream propaganda? Could be completely coincidental. We didn’t have good mutual understanding about what I meant about helping average people accomplish average things. I just meant I don’t take credit for bubble money that people made. I like to help people make good without hype. I don’t buy too much into selling people something “special” that sounds like manipulative self serving marketing too.You know people and marketing very well.I am fiscally conservative and I can’t get over trying to make the world fiscally conservative and maybe even realatively modest.You can imagine that is a real deal killer in your neck of the woods.
If by extrodinary people you mean rich and powerful which given that you compare them to the civil service fellow and the waitress, I am going to assume you do, I guess yes it is a good idea to serve them.They deserve it no less certainly than the average joe. I explained who the bulk of my clients are to SD Realtor in a post earlier.
I think you are hung up on your way being the right and better way and it is natural.I am glad you are confident. It sounds like you are being competetive to me, we all have to be “special” in this business don’t we? Face it I take picking up clients less seriously or even less desperately …notice that my psuedonym does not have Realtor in it? But when I do have clients I am advocate pure and simple.Hence I have only one client that will ever be upside down. I hope that you have a similiar quantity.
I blame our industry for using people and screwing the market up or at least being middle men and in doing so they screwed it up for me too, By taking away something I liked doing because my values wouldn’t allow me to participate in it. We have a bunch of people sitting around hoping to fulfill their entitlement to “special” houses and the fortunes they can make from them while America is going to hell in handbasket. I am an Idealist. You are arguing with an Idealist it is going to be very frustrating no? Why do you keep wanting to be villified are you seeking character building opportunities or what?
Good night

[NotCranky]

The dedication part was joke. CV is my new favorite indicator. I told you why I took the 4 day example data group the way I did in the previous post.I believe Realtors are trying to dress this pig up all the way down!
I believe that the post soft landing marketing verbiage goes something like this ‘Yeah there are some signs in the market blah blah blah ….still It is going to take so long and inflation adjusts these things…blah blah blah it won’t be worth waiting in the long run.Besides credit is drying up you better go for it!
Any rational person is taking into consideration the fact that interest rates are good, That inflation mitigates some of the burden of a mortgages. So the salesman attempts to do what salesmen do overcome obstacles to transactions. The key to doing that at this point is to lower the expectatons of a crash.I don’t overcome obstacles to transactions. I don’t dress up pigs.I decided a long time ago that my clients had to be more important than my commissions.I am a little suspicious that your leanings are too close to the mainstream propaganda? Could be completely coincidental. We didn’t have good mutual understanding about what I meant about helping average people accomplish average things. I just meant I don’t take credit for bubble money that people made. I like to help people make good without hype. I don’t buy too much into selling people something “special” that sounds like manipulative self serving marketing too.You know people and marketing very well.I am fiscally conservative and I can’t get over trying to make the world fiscally conservative and maybe even realatively modest.You can imagine that is a real deal killer in your neck of the woods.
If by extrodinary people you mean rich and powerful which given that you compare them to the civil service fellow and the waitress, I am going to assume you do, I guess yes it is a good idea to serve them.They deserve it no less certainly than the average joe. I explained who the bulk of my clients are to SD Realtor in a post earlier.
I think you are hung up on your way being the right and better way and it is natural.I am glad you are confident. It sounds like you are being competetive to me, we all have to be “special” in this business don’t we? Face it I take picking up clients less seriously or even less desperately …notice that my psuedonym does not have Realtor in it? But when I do have clients I am advocate pure and simple.Hence I have only one client that will ever be upside down. I hope that you have a similiar quantity.
I blame our industry for using people and screwing the market up or at least being middle men and in doing so they screwed it up for me too, By taking away something I liked doing because my values wouldn’t allow me to participate in it. We have a bunch of people sitting around hoping to fulfill their entitlement to “special” houses and the fortunes they can make from them while America is going to hell in handbasket. I am an Idealist. You are arguing with an Idealist it is going to be very frustrating no? Why do you keep wanting to be villified are you seeking character building opportunities or what?
Good night

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