Car buying experiences

[an]

[quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]
The 370Z is faster than the TT-S and the Z4 w/ the 3.0L TT. So, if you don’t think the 370Z would be fast and handle good enough for you, then I think you’d be disappointed in the other 2 choices as well. The only thing you’ll get more from the Z4/TT vs the 370Z is the luxury. If you want the 370Z speed and handling but also want the luxury of the Z4, I’d probably go w/ the Cayman S.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]
The 370Z is faster than the TT-S and the Z4 w/ the 3.0L TT. So, if you don’t think the 370Z would be fast and handle good enough for you, then I think you’d be disappointed in the other 2 choices as well. The only thing you’ll get more from the Z4/TT vs the 370Z is the luxury. If you want the 370Z speed and handling but also want the luxury of the Z4, I’d probably go w/ the Cayman S.[/quote]

AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]
The 370Z is faster than the TT-S and the Z4 w/ the 3.0L TT. So, if you don’t think the 370Z would be fast and handle good enough for you, then I think you’d be disappointed in the other 2 choices as well. The only thing you’ll get more from the Z4/TT vs the 370Z is the luxury. If you want the 370Z speed and handling but also want the luxury of the Z4, I’d probably go w/ the Cayman S.[/quote]

AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]
The 370Z is faster than the TT-S and the Z4 w/ the 3.0L TT. So, if you don’t think the 370Z would be fast and handle good enough for you, then I think you’d be disappointed in the other 2 choices as well. The only thing you’ll get more from the Z4/TT vs the 370Z is the luxury. If you want the 370Z speed and handling but also want the luxury of the Z4, I’d probably go w/ the Cayman S.[/quote]

AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]
The 370Z is faster than the TT-S and the Z4 w/ the 3.0L TT. So, if you don’t think the 370Z would be fast and handle good enough for you, then I think you’d be disappointed in the other 2 choices as well. The only thing you’ll get more from the Z4/TT vs the 370Z is the luxury. If you want the 370Z speed and handling but also want the luxury of the Z4, I’d probably go w/ the Cayman S.[/quote]

AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]
The 370Z is faster than the TT-S and the Z4 w/ the 3.0L TT. So, if you don’t think the 370Z would be fast and handle good enough for you, then I think you’d be disappointed in the other 2 choices as well. The only thing you’ll get more from the Z4/TT vs the 370Z is the luxury. If you want the 370Z speed and handling but also want the luxury of the Z4, I’d probably go w/ the Cayman S.[/quote]

AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.

[an]

[quote=flu]
AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.
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flu, I know why the z4 got soft and heavy. I just don’t like their direction. I would pick the older z4m if you want more performance vs luxury. The new Z4, although it’s small, it weighs around 3500lb. Pretty porky in my eye.

I think you’ll get more luxury w/ the Audi, but I always feel like you get a lot less performance w/ Audi vs other comparable marquee for the same price. Minus maybe the Benz.

[an]

[quote=flu]
AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.
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flu, I know why the z4 got soft and heavy. I just don’t like their direction. I would pick the older z4m if you want more performance vs luxury. The new Z4, although it’s small, it weighs around 3500lb. Pretty porky in my eye.

I think you’ll get more luxury w/ the Audi, but I always feel like you get a lot less performance w/ Audi vs other comparable marquee for the same price. Minus maybe the Benz.

[an]

[quote=flu]
AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.
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flu, I know why the z4 got soft and heavy. I just don’t like their direction. I would pick the older z4m if you want more performance vs luxury. The new Z4, although it’s small, it weighs around 3500lb. Pretty porky in my eye.

I think you’ll get more luxury w/ the Audi, but I always feel like you get a lot less performance w/ Audi vs other comparable marquee for the same price. Minus maybe the Benz.

[an]

[quote=flu]
AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.
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flu, I know why the z4 got soft and heavy. I just don’t like their direction. I would pick the older z4m if you want more performance vs luxury. The new Z4, although it’s small, it weighs around 3500lb. Pretty porky in my eye.

I think you’ll get more luxury w/ the Audi, but I always feel like you get a lot less performance w/ Audi vs other comparable marquee for the same price. Minus maybe the Benz.

[an]

[quote=flu]
AN, the reason why the Z4 got soft and heavy is probably not enough people liked the stiffer Z4 of the previous gen. Hence, I’m guessing they are tuning this slightly softer, reserving the M coupe for future date. Normally, I’d pick the TT-S, but this is looking dated. (Where is the supposedly R4? I guess they killed that project too).

sdr, You do realize that the Z4 will most likely run you over $60k for the xdrive 35i after the options that mostly will be preselected( $52.5k + $2k for sports package + $2.5 for premium + $1.5k if you want dual clutch )… There’s a lot of things you could drive in that range.
[/quote]
flu, I know why the z4 got soft and heavy. I just don’t like their direction. I would pick the older z4m if you want more performance vs luxury. The new Z4, although it’s small, it weighs around 3500lb. Pretty porky in my eye.

I think you’ll get more luxury w/ the Audi, but I always feel like you get a lot less performance w/ Audi vs other comparable marquee for the same price. Minus maybe the Benz.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]

If you’re not married to the idea of a convertible, I highly recommend test driving the Infinity G37. Admittedly, I didn’t test drive the Z4 or the TT, but I did test drive cars from both BMW and Audi (and Lexus) in the ~40K range, and the G37 took the cake for me. It had speed (only the BMW with the 3.0 turbo and the 370Z would be faster), handling, luxury, and has been very easy to live with over the past 15 months. It will also spend less time in the shop than a german luxury car. As a bonus, you don’t have to spend an extra 5K+ to get the high performance engine like you do with the Audi or BMW. Out the door, my G37 cost about 10K less than a BMW 335i similarly equipped (~15K less than a Z4).

BTW, the 370Z is not the 300Z of old (which was, for a sports car, pretty slow). It won’t be quite as luxurious as the G37 (which it shares it’s powertrain with), but it will be the fastest, best handling car of any listed here, bar none. Want to surprise a 335i owner? Buy the Z and smoke him at the stoplight.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]

If you’re not married to the idea of a convertible, I highly recommend test driving the Infinity G37. Admittedly, I didn’t test drive the Z4 or the TT, but I did test drive cars from both BMW and Audi (and Lexus) in the ~40K range, and the G37 took the cake for me. It had speed (only the BMW with the 3.0 turbo and the 370Z would be faster), handling, luxury, and has been very easy to live with over the past 15 months. It will also spend less time in the shop than a german luxury car. As a bonus, you don’t have to spend an extra 5K+ to get the high performance engine like you do with the Audi or BMW. Out the door, my G37 cost about 10K less than a BMW 335i similarly equipped (~15K less than a Z4).

BTW, the 370Z is not the 300Z of old (which was, for a sports car, pretty slow). It won’t be quite as luxurious as the G37 (which it shares it’s powertrain with), but it will be the fastest, best handling car of any listed here, bar none. Want to surprise a 335i owner? Buy the Z and smoke him at the stoplight.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]

If you’re not married to the idea of a convertible, I highly recommend test driving the Infinity G37. Admittedly, I didn’t test drive the Z4 or the TT, but I did test drive cars from both BMW and Audi (and Lexus) in the ~40K range, and the G37 took the cake for me. It had speed (only the BMW with the 3.0 turbo and the 370Z would be faster), handling, luxury, and has been very easy to live with over the past 15 months. It will also spend less time in the shop than a german luxury car. As a bonus, you don’t have to spend an extra 5K+ to get the high performance engine like you do with the Audi or BMW. Out the door, my G37 cost about 10K less than a BMW 335i similarly equipped (~15K less than a Z4).

BTW, the 370Z is not the 300Z of old (which was, for a sports car, pretty slow). It won’t be quite as luxurious as the G37 (which it shares it’s powertrain with), but it will be the fastest, best handling car of any listed here, bar none. Want to surprise a 335i owner? Buy the Z and smoke him at the stoplight.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=sdrealtor]Already had a 300Z back in 1985. I’m old now. I want fast, traction/turning and luxury. Price is whatever it takes to put that smile on my face. probably still a few months away from pulling the trigger. I’m not very good at spending money and even worse when it is on myself. I need to romance the idea for a few months.[/quote]

If you’re not married to the idea of a convertible, I highly recommend test driving the Infinity G37. Admittedly, I didn’t test drive the Z4 or the TT, but I did test drive cars from both BMW and Audi (and Lexus) in the ~40K range, and the G37 took the cake for me. It had speed (only the BMW with the 3.0 turbo and the 370Z would be faster), handling, luxury, and has been very easy to live with over the past 15 months. It will also spend less time in the shop than a german luxury car. As a bonus, you don’t have to spend an extra 5K+ to get the high performance engine like you do with the Audi or BMW. Out the door, my G37 cost about 10K less than a BMW 335i similarly equipped (~15K less than a Z4).

BTW, the 370Z is not the 300Z of old (which was, for a sports car, pretty slow). It won’t be quite as luxurious as the G37 (which it shares it’s powertrain with), but it will be the fastest, best handling car of any listed here, bar none. Want to surprise a 335i owner? Buy the Z and smoke him at the stoplight.

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