Buying with monopoly money

[SD Realtor]

I also think that your ideas have merit. I don’t think anyone disagrees about upcoming inflation and much higher interest rates. I think the biggest question is how long they can keep the charade going. I believe the can keep it going for quite awhile and an external catalyst will be the event that cracks it open.

The question is will it be a year, 2 years, 5 years? Hard to say.

Given the rates of return on any investment and the potential for rampant rates, it is very hard to argue with logic that says you can have a tangible asset using borrowed money at a rate that will be phenomally low compared to rates in the future.

The depreciation question should not be ignored though. How much will property depreciate AT current interest rate levels. Then how much further will it depreciate when the rates skyrocket? Tough call isnt it? If rates go as high as I think they will, then I think your logic is correct.

Prediction, look for more federal intervention into the housing market this year in the form of stimulus.

[scaredyclassic]

Grow or die , or if you can’t grow inflate or die. Perhaps what’s amazing is that there actually was a crash at all. What if we were wrong what if the govt had got out so far and so fast in front of price declines that they just never allowed prices to fall. Could that have happened? I am now 100 perecent in favor of any stimulus no matter how arbitrary or imbalances to keep up housing prices.

[scaredyclassic]

Grow or die , or if you can’t grow inflate or die. Perhaps what’s amazing is that there actually was a crash at all. What if we were wrong what if the govt had got out so far and so fast in front of price declines that they just never allowed prices to fall. Could that have happened? I am now 100 perecent in favor of any stimulus no matter how arbitrary or imbalances to keep up housing prices.

[scaredyclassic]

Grow or die , or if you can’t grow inflate or die. Perhaps what’s amazing is that there actually was a crash at all. What if we were wrong what if the govt had got out so far and so fast in front of price declines that they just never allowed prices to fall. Could that have happened? I am now 100 perecent in favor of any stimulus no matter how arbitrary or imbalances to keep up housing prices.

[scaredyclassic]

Grow or die , or if you can’t grow inflate or die. Perhaps what’s amazing is that there actually was a crash at all. What if we were wrong what if the govt had got out so far and so fast in front of price declines that they just never allowed prices to fall. Could that have happened? I am now 100 perecent in favor of any stimulus no matter how arbitrary or imbalances to keep up housing prices.

[scaredyclassic]

Grow or die , or if you can’t grow inflate or die. Perhaps what’s amazing is that there actually was a crash at all. What if we were wrong what if the govt had got out so far and so fast in front of price declines that they just never allowed prices to fall. Could that have happened? I am now 100 perecent in favor of any stimulus no matter how arbitrary or imbalances to keep up housing prices.

[EconProf]

Your basic thesis is that all the money creation and monetary stimulus of QE2 will lead to inflation in most everything, so that by borrowing now at artificially low (temporarily) interest rates you will reap long term profits by paying back with cheaper dollars and have a highly appreciated real estate asset.
I’ve been saying the same thing for years. And I’ve been wrong. But like you, I have hope that some day I’ll be proven right. After all, a broken clock is right twice a day. I also own a lot of real estate assets that would benefit from such a scenario.
Why might you and I be wrong in the future? The inflation we have had in commodities and other assets has not spread to real estate (except Midwest farmland). Past inflationary periods have been fueled by jumps in aggregate demand. The fiscal and monetary stimulus has not fueled a broader economic recovery because the first two components of aggregate demand, consumption and investment (remember GNP = C + I + G) remain weak, and look to continue weak. If 9.6% unemployment is the New Normal, and the housing inventory remains bloated, and housing speculation remains dead, then how will your investment go up in value? In fact the fiscal and monetary stimulus has scared the crap out of consumers and investors, which normally make up about three-fourths of aggregate demand. Both sectors leveraged to the hilt during the bubble, and likely have much more deleveraging to do. A final straw may be rising interest rates that typically accompany rising inflation, thus clobbering real estate demand.
In short, I hope you are right, but selfishly fear you are wrong.

[EconProf]

Your basic thesis is that all the money creation and monetary stimulus of QE2 will lead to inflation in most everything, so that by borrowing now at artificially low (temporarily) interest rates you will reap long term profits by paying back with cheaper dollars and have a highly appreciated real estate asset.
I’ve been saying the same thing for years. And I’ve been wrong. But like you, I have hope that some day I’ll be proven right. After all, a broken clock is right twice a day. I also own a lot of real estate assets that would benefit from such a scenario.
Why might you and I be wrong in the future? The inflation we have had in commodities and other assets has not spread to real estate (except Midwest farmland). Past inflationary periods have been fueled by jumps in aggregate demand. The fiscal and monetary stimulus has not fueled a broader economic recovery because the first two components of aggregate demand, consumption and investment (remember GNP = C + I + G) remain weak, and look to continue weak. If 9.6% unemployment is the New Normal, and the housing inventory remains bloated, and housing speculation remains dead, then how will your investment go up in value? In fact the fiscal and monetary stimulus has scared the crap out of consumers and investors, which normally make up about three-fourths of aggregate demand. Both sectors leveraged to the hilt during the bubble, and likely have much more deleveraging to do. A final straw may be rising interest rates that typically accompany rising inflation, thus clobbering real estate demand.
In short, I hope you are right, but selfishly fear you are wrong.

[EconProf]

Your basic thesis is that all the money creation and monetary stimulus of QE2 will lead to inflation in most everything, so that by borrowing now at artificially low (temporarily) interest rates you will reap long term profits by paying back with cheaper dollars and have a highly appreciated real estate asset.
I’ve been saying the same thing for years. And I’ve been wrong. But like you, I have hope that some day I’ll be proven right. After all, a broken clock is right twice a day. I also own a lot of real estate assets that would benefit from such a scenario.
Why might you and I be wrong in the future? The inflation we have had in commodities and other assets has not spread to real estate (except Midwest farmland). Past inflationary periods have been fueled by jumps in aggregate demand. The fiscal and monetary stimulus has not fueled a broader economic recovery because the first two components of aggregate demand, consumption and investment (remember GNP = C + I + G) remain weak, and look to continue weak. If 9.6% unemployment is the New Normal, and the housing inventory remains bloated, and housing speculation remains dead, then how will your investment go up in value? In fact the fiscal and monetary stimulus has scared the crap out of consumers and investors, which normally make up about three-fourths of aggregate demand. Both sectors leveraged to the hilt during the bubble, and likely have much more deleveraging to do. A final straw may be rising interest rates that typically accompany rising inflation, thus clobbering real estate demand.
In short, I hope you are right, but selfishly fear you are wrong.

[EconProf]

Your basic thesis is that all the money creation and monetary stimulus of QE2 will lead to inflation in most everything, so that by borrowing now at artificially low (temporarily) interest rates you will reap long term profits by paying back with cheaper dollars and have a highly appreciated real estate asset.
I’ve been saying the same thing for years. And I’ve been wrong. But like you, I have hope that some day I’ll be proven right. After all, a broken clock is right twice a day. I also own a lot of real estate assets that would benefit from such a scenario.
Why might you and I be wrong in the future? The inflation we have had in commodities and other assets has not spread to real estate (except Midwest farmland). Past inflationary periods have been fueled by jumps in aggregate demand. The fiscal and monetary stimulus has not fueled a broader economic recovery because the first two components of aggregate demand, consumption and investment (remember GNP = C + I + G) remain weak, and look to continue weak. If 9.6% unemployment is the New Normal, and the housing inventory remains bloated, and housing speculation remains dead, then how will your investment go up in value? In fact the fiscal and monetary stimulus has scared the crap out of consumers and investors, which normally make up about three-fourths of aggregate demand. Both sectors leveraged to the hilt during the bubble, and likely have much more deleveraging to do. A final straw may be rising interest rates that typically accompany rising inflation, thus clobbering real estate demand.
In short, I hope you are right, but selfishly fear you are wrong.

[EconProf]

Your basic thesis is that all the money creation and monetary stimulus of QE2 will lead to inflation in most everything, so that by borrowing now at artificially low (temporarily) interest rates you will reap long term profits by paying back with cheaper dollars and have a highly appreciated real estate asset.
I’ve been saying the same thing for years. And I’ve been wrong. But like you, I have hope that some day I’ll be proven right. After all, a broken clock is right twice a day. I also own a lot of real estate assets that would benefit from such a scenario.
Why might you and I be wrong in the future? The inflation we have had in commodities and other assets has not spread to real estate (except Midwest farmland). Past inflationary periods have been fueled by jumps in aggregate demand. The fiscal and monetary stimulus has not fueled a broader economic recovery because the first two components of aggregate demand, consumption and investment (remember GNP = C + I + G) remain weak, and look to continue weak. If 9.6% unemployment is the New Normal, and the housing inventory remains bloated, and housing speculation remains dead, then how will your investment go up in value? In fact the fiscal and monetary stimulus has scared the crap out of consumers and investors, which normally make up about three-fourths of aggregate demand. Both sectors leveraged to the hilt during the bubble, and likely have much more deleveraging to do. A final straw may be rising interest rates that typically accompany rising inflation, thus clobbering real estate demand.
In short, I hope you are right, but selfishly fear you are wrong.

[moneymaker]

Isn’t it like trying to guess how big the next blob will be on a lava lamp, you know it’s going up but how big and how fast?

[moneymaker]

Isn’t it like trying to guess how big the next blob will be on a lava lamp, you know it’s going up but how big and how fast?

[moneymaker]

Isn’t it like trying to guess how big the next blob will be on a lava lamp, you know it’s going up but how big and how fast?

[moneymaker]

Isn’t it like trying to guess how big the next blob will be on a lava lamp, you know it’s going up but how big and how fast?

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