BUY AMERICAN (avoid that made in China)

[CA renter]

[quote=jpinpb]For sure it would be worst to ingest anything harmful, whether food or medications.

Funny this thread was dug back up. I was at the mall last weekend getting a birthday present for stepson. Went *window* shopping at Nordstrom. Just peaking in the shoe department. Every shoe I checked was made in China. These were NOT low priced shoes. These were designer brand-name shoes made in China. And checking the quality, it was the same as low priced shoes.

Lucky for me, I don’t need/want shoes, but it was disappointing. I remember a lifetime ago when I would go to Nordstrom shoe department and find really nice quality Italian shoes.

Also, looking for clothes for my stepson, just about everything was made in China. And it wasn’t that cheap (quality was, though). I just was thinking back to when I was a teenager. Clothes were not that expensive and were good quality.

So different now. I mean, some of these t-shirts are so thin, looks like they would dissolve on first washing.[/quote]

We’ve noticed the same thing and Nordstrom. One day, I decided to check out labels there, and every single one of them said the article was made in China or SE Asia. Not a single one that I saw was made in the USA, yet they still want us to pay “made in USA” prices.

Based on what was said on this thread (or a similar one…didn’t check all the posts again), I decided to buy New Balance tennis shoes last week. Even those are often made overseas now, with a few exceptions where they were “assembled” in the US (probably by foreign workers), with components from overseas.

We are doing all we can to buy US-made goods, but it’s NOT easy, even if you’re willing to pay more.

[briansd1]

I beg to differ that made in USA clothing was better.

To me, it’s not an issue of Made in USA or otherwise. We are now globalized so we just need to get used to it rather than wanting to go back to an idealized past that wasn’t.

Back in the 60s and 70s, clothing was a lot more expensive as a percentage of income. And people didn’t have much in the closets. Heck, they didn’t even have walk-in closets.

Clothing used to shrink and bleed. The sewing quality was bad.

The clothe washing machines were of poor quality. You had to buy German for quality. But since Samsung and LG entered the American market, the washing machines are now much better front load models.

We now have so many more choices. And commoditized products can be good quality. You just need a good eye for quality.

[briansd1]

I beg to differ that made in USA clothing was better.

To me, it’s not an issue of Made in USA or otherwise. We are now globalized so we just need to get used to it rather than wanting to go back to an idealized past that wasn’t.

Back in the 60s and 70s, clothing was a lot more expensive as a percentage of income. And people didn’t have much in the closets. Heck, they didn’t even have walk-in closets.

Clothing used to shrink and bleed. The sewing quality was bad.

The clothe washing machines were of poor quality. You had to buy German for quality. But since Samsung and LG entered the American market, the washing machines are now much better front load models.

We now have so many more choices. And commoditized products can be good quality. You just need a good eye for quality.

[briansd1]

I beg to differ that made in USA clothing was better.

To me, it’s not an issue of Made in USA or otherwise. We are now globalized so we just need to get used to it rather than wanting to go back to an idealized past that wasn’t.

Back in the 60s and 70s, clothing was a lot more expensive as a percentage of income. And people didn’t have much in the closets. Heck, they didn’t even have walk-in closets.

Clothing used to shrink and bleed. The sewing quality was bad.

The clothe washing machines were of poor quality. You had to buy German for quality. But since Samsung and LG entered the American market, the washing machines are now much better front load models.

We now have so many more choices. And commoditized products can be good quality. You just need a good eye for quality.

[briansd1]

I beg to differ that made in USA clothing was better.

To me, it’s not an issue of Made in USA or otherwise. We are now globalized so we just need to get used to it rather than wanting to go back to an idealized past that wasn’t.

Back in the 60s and 70s, clothing was a lot more expensive as a percentage of income. And people didn’t have much in the closets. Heck, they didn’t even have walk-in closets.

Clothing used to shrink and bleed. The sewing quality was bad.

The clothe washing machines were of poor quality. You had to buy German for quality. But since Samsung and LG entered the American market, the washing machines are now much better front load models.

We now have so many more choices. And commoditized products can be good quality. You just need a good eye for quality.

[briansd1]

I beg to differ that made in USA clothing was better.

To me, it’s not an issue of Made in USA or otherwise. We are now globalized so we just need to get used to it rather than wanting to go back to an idealized past that wasn’t.

Back in the 60s and 70s, clothing was a lot more expensive as a percentage of income. And people didn’t have much in the closets. Heck, they didn’t even have walk-in closets.

Clothing used to shrink and bleed. The sewing quality was bad.

The clothe washing machines were of poor quality. You had to buy German for quality. But since Samsung and LG entered the American market, the washing machines are now much better front load models.

We now have so many more choices. And commoditized products can be good quality. You just need a good eye for quality.

[jpinpb]

brian – I’m telling you the quality of shoes and clothing have deteriorated. The prices remain high for brand names, but 90% of it is made in China. It’s one thing to buy something that’s made in China w/a price tag that’s cheap to go w/it. It’s another thing to pay something like $400 for a pair of designer shoes that are made in China. And don’t anyone be thinking I’d ever spend that much for shoes to start with. But if they were, say, Italian shoes, I could understand. These are companies making money off their name and it’s a huge profit b/c it’s made in China. I just could never, ever. I’ll overpay for a house first. At least that’s still made here.

[jpinpb]

brian – I’m telling you the quality of shoes and clothing have deteriorated. The prices remain high for brand names, but 90% of it is made in China. It’s one thing to buy something that’s made in China w/a price tag that’s cheap to go w/it. It’s another thing to pay something like $400 for a pair of designer shoes that are made in China. And don’t anyone be thinking I’d ever spend that much for shoes to start with. But if they were, say, Italian shoes, I could understand. These are companies making money off their name and it’s a huge profit b/c it’s made in China. I just could never, ever. I’ll overpay for a house first. At least that’s still made here.

[jpinpb]

brian – I’m telling you the quality of shoes and clothing have deteriorated. The prices remain high for brand names, but 90% of it is made in China. It’s one thing to buy something that’s made in China w/a price tag that’s cheap to go w/it. It’s another thing to pay something like $400 for a pair of designer shoes that are made in China. And don’t anyone be thinking I’d ever spend that much for shoes to start with. But if they were, say, Italian shoes, I could understand. These are companies making money off their name and it’s a huge profit b/c it’s made in China. I just could never, ever. I’ll overpay for a house first. At least that’s still made here.

[jpinpb]

brian – I’m telling you the quality of shoes and clothing have deteriorated. The prices remain high for brand names, but 90% of it is made in China. It’s one thing to buy something that’s made in China w/a price tag that’s cheap to go w/it. It’s another thing to pay something like $400 for a pair of designer shoes that are made in China. And don’t anyone be thinking I’d ever spend that much for shoes to start with. But if they were, say, Italian shoes, I could understand. These are companies making money off their name and it’s a huge profit b/c it’s made in China. I just could never, ever. I’ll overpay for a house first. At least that’s still made here.

[jpinpb]

brian – I’m telling you the quality of shoes and clothing have deteriorated. The prices remain high for brand names, but 90% of it is made in China. It’s one thing to buy something that’s made in China w/a price tag that’s cheap to go w/it. It’s another thing to pay something like $400 for a pair of designer shoes that are made in China. And don’t anyone be thinking I’d ever spend that much for shoes to start with. But if they were, say, Italian shoes, I could understand. These are companies making money off their name and it’s a huge profit b/c it’s made in China. I just could never, ever. I’ll overpay for a house first. At least that’s still made here.

[CA renter]

[quote=jpinpb]brian – I’m telling you the quality of shoes and clothing have deteriorated. The prices remain high for brand names, but 90% of it is made in China. It’s one thing to buy something that’s made in China w/a price tag that’s cheap to go w/it. It’s another thing to pay something like $400 for a pair of designer shoes that are made in China. And don’t anyone be thinking I’d ever spend that much for shoes to start with. But if they were, say, Italian shoes, I could understand. These are companies making money off their name and it’s a huge profit b/c it’s made in China. I just could never, ever. I’ll overpay for a house first. At least that’s still made here.[/quote]

Exactly, jpinpb.

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Brian,

Perhaps your experience is different from ours (and everyone else I know). Maybe you’ve managed to find goods made in China that were somehow equal to the quality we used to get in US made goods. Personally, I’ve never seen it.

I can give you one example after another where goods manufactured in the US were of far greater quality than those now made overseas. While we might have had to pay more for it initially, things usually lasted a lot longer which is better for our our wallets, and better for our environment (less pollution/fewer resources used in manufacturing, and fewer items to dispose of over time). You’ll have a very difficult time trying to convince most people that Chinese-made goods are anywhere close to US or European-made goods in terms of quality.

[CA renter]

[quote=jpinpb]brian – I’m telling you the quality of shoes and clothing have deteriorated. The prices remain high for brand names, but 90% of it is made in China. It’s one thing to buy something that’s made in China w/a price tag that’s cheap to go w/it. It’s another thing to pay something like $400 for a pair of designer shoes that are made in China. And don’t anyone be thinking I’d ever spend that much for shoes to start with. But if they were, say, Italian shoes, I could understand. These are companies making money off their name and it’s a huge profit b/c it’s made in China. I just could never, ever. I’ll overpay for a house first. At least that’s still made here.[/quote]

Exactly, jpinpb.

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Brian,

Perhaps your experience is different from ours (and everyone else I know). Maybe you’ve managed to find goods made in China that were somehow equal to the quality we used to get in US made goods. Personally, I’ve never seen it.

I can give you one example after another where goods manufactured in the US were of far greater quality than those now made overseas. While we might have had to pay more for it initially, things usually lasted a lot longer which is better for our our wallets, and better for our environment (less pollution/fewer resources used in manufacturing, and fewer items to dispose of over time). You’ll have a very difficult time trying to convince most people that Chinese-made goods are anywhere close to US or European-made goods in terms of quality.

[CA renter]

[quote=jpinpb]brian – I’m telling you the quality of shoes and clothing have deteriorated. The prices remain high for brand names, but 90% of it is made in China. It’s one thing to buy something that’s made in China w/a price tag that’s cheap to go w/it. It’s another thing to pay something like $400 for a pair of designer shoes that are made in China. And don’t anyone be thinking I’d ever spend that much for shoes to start with. But if they were, say, Italian shoes, I could understand. These are companies making money off their name and it’s a huge profit b/c it’s made in China. I just could never, ever. I’ll overpay for a house first. At least that’s still made here.[/quote]

Exactly, jpinpb.

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Brian,

Perhaps your experience is different from ours (and everyone else I know). Maybe you’ve managed to find goods made in China that were somehow equal to the quality we used to get in US made goods. Personally, I’ve never seen it.

I can give you one example after another where goods manufactured in the US were of far greater quality than those now made overseas. While we might have had to pay more for it initially, things usually lasted a lot longer which is better for our our wallets, and better for our environment (less pollution/fewer resources used in manufacturing, and fewer items to dispose of over time). You’ll have a very difficult time trying to convince most people that Chinese-made goods are anywhere close to US or European-made goods in terms of quality.

[CA renter]

[quote=jpinpb]brian – I’m telling you the quality of shoes and clothing have deteriorated. The prices remain high for brand names, but 90% of it is made in China. It’s one thing to buy something that’s made in China w/a price tag that’s cheap to go w/it. It’s another thing to pay something like $400 for a pair of designer shoes that are made in China. And don’t anyone be thinking I’d ever spend that much for shoes to start with. But if they were, say, Italian shoes, I could understand. These are companies making money off their name and it’s a huge profit b/c it’s made in China. I just could never, ever. I’ll overpay for a house first. At least that’s still made here.[/quote]

Exactly, jpinpb.

—————-

Brian,

Perhaps your experience is different from ours (and everyone else I know). Maybe you’ve managed to find goods made in China that were somehow equal to the quality we used to get in US made goods. Personally, I’ve never seen it.

I can give you one example after another where goods manufactured in the US were of far greater quality than those now made overseas. While we might have had to pay more for it initially, things usually lasted a lot longer which is better for our our wallets, and better for our environment (less pollution/fewer resources used in manufacturing, and fewer items to dispose of over time). You’ll have a very difficult time trying to convince most people that Chinese-made goods are anywhere close to US or European-made goods in terms of quality.

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