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October 31, 2006 at 10:59 AM #38843October 31, 2006 at 11:11 AM #38845CardiffBaseballParticipant
You might want to check the forum called Off-Topic, as this has veered quite a bit from Bressi Ranch. As someone who likes to see Democrats lose I hope for a valid and growing presence of the Green party, so party on dudes….
December 6, 2006 at 9:53 AM #412254runnerParticipantIt looks like these Bressi Ranch homes are now to be rented.
A whole bunch of furnished/unfurnished rental listings popped up on Craigslist on 12/5.
Examples are found here:
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/apa/244557096.html
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/apa/244554229.html
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/apa/244558461.htmlIt is curious how inexperienced landlords think that there is a large, underserved market of renters willing to pay ~$3000/month to rent a single family home…
December 6, 2006 at 10:37 AM #41228sdrealtorParticipantThere is a large underserved market of renters willing to pay $3,000/month to rent a SFR. These will rent quickly.
December 6, 2006 at 11:19 AM #41232PerryChaseParticipantBecause it’s a great deal. Why pay $5000 in mortgage interest when you can rent for $3000 inclusive of everything?
December 6, 2006 at 11:25 AM #41234sdrealtorParticipantExactly PC!
Dont forget $1000 in taxes/mello roos and $250 HOA fees, homeowners insurance, a gardener etc.December 6, 2006 at 11:40 AM #41239ibjamesParticipantdamn, 3k/mo. for rent? Why would people rent those?
December 6, 2006 at 11:41 AM #412424runnerParticipantRenting these houses is obviously a lot cheaper than buying/carrying them.
However, run the numbers to determine the market size. If a renter is willing to pay up to 40% of take home pay to rent, 3k$/month would require the renter to take home over 7.5k$/month– or a salary of at least 100k$/year. Rent payments of 33% of take home pay pushes it even higher. This is without the interest deduction for people whom the interest deduction actually matters.
I find it hard to believe that there is a large market of people earning six figures who are renting. Admittedly, a lot of relatively well-to-do people have moved to the sidelines in this real estate market, but 3k for rent still strikes me as a lot.
December 6, 2006 at 11:47 AM #41240ibjamesParticipantmy wife and I make a decent amount.. and have a hard time paying 1650/mo lol
December 6, 2006 at 12:12 PM #41248daveljParticipantI’ve got a friend that makes over a half million and year and he’s been renting (with his wife and two kids) for three years now (paying over $3K/month). He was living in LA and is now in the DC area. He just can’t stomach paying $1 million for a house that’s worth $650K regardless of the convenience opportunity cost. But I suspect he’s an exception rather than the rule.
December 6, 2006 at 3:57 PM #41270CardiffBaseballParticipantI still think that’s a lot for these homes. My bigger concern would be, do they continue to try and sell the house? Wouldn’t 3K per month mean they are burning cash, and only plan to rent until the market picks back, which everyone knows is Spring 2007. 😉
We make in the 150K range, and if I paid this kind of money in rent, I wouldn’t have much left over (after paying the bills, student loans, etc.) to save up for a new home.
December 6, 2006 at 4:43 PM #41271no_such_realityParticipantActually, I looked at the Craigslist. The rents range from $2500 to $4000+ for a total of twelve dwellings. Which to me says they are really fishing for the right rental price and will steer people on the bigger places to the smaller places when they balk at the price. Then later lower the bigger place rent to fill it.
Either way, from model home to auction to now, is several months. Someone somewhere is burning through cash on carrying costs.
A quick check of Craigslist with the search criteria keyboard house and max $2500 with 3BR or more shows 510 available places. 300 under $2000. in the over $2500 range, 131 which puts yes at the 80/20 split.
Switching it closer to the Bressi config, we see 45 units over $3000 with 4 BR.
with 26 over $3500.
dropping the house requirement and just needing 4 BR, we see an 80/20 split at $3500 under/over. with 432 under/90 over.
The $2500 didn’t strike me as bad, compared to what renting a 3BR is going to cost. The others though, the price went up pretty steep.
December 6, 2006 at 5:24 PM #41273AnonymousGuestWhat % of the san diego population has the income to afford $3000 rent? Can’t be more than 10%..
December 6, 2006 at 5:56 PM #41276anParticipantSince renting have no tax saving, people only pay for rent on places they can truly afford. To truly afford a $3k/month rent, I think they would have to make at least $200k/year to live comfortably, save, and some fun. I highly doubt there’s anywhere near 10% of SD making $200k/year.
December 6, 2006 at 6:08 PM #41277sdcellarParticipant$200k? I’m roughly estimating that’s around $9000/month after taxes, so yeah I think most people could live comfortably, save, and have a *lot* of fun with the other $6000 every month.
Perhaps you’re taking it a little far there?
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