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June 28, 2008 at 1:24 PM #230311June 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM #230144
jficquette
Participant[quote=LA_Renter]If you don’t support Obama this is not the path to take. The state of Hawaii has verified the authenticity of the birth certificate. There are many other issues to discuss besides this. Dwelling on this tripe only helps Obama.[/quote]
Hawaii has not verified the certificate and Obama refuses to provide an original.
That is the whole purpose of the article.
My guess is Obama was born in Indonesia or Africa.
June 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM #230263Participant[quote=LA_Renter]If you don’t support Obama this is not the path to take. The state of Hawaii has verified the authenticity of the birth certificate. There are many other issues to discuss besides this. Dwelling on this tripe only helps Obama.[/quote]
Hawaii has not verified the certificate and Obama refuses to provide an original.
That is the whole purpose of the article.
My guess is Obama was born in Indonesia or Africa.
June 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM #230272Participant[quote=LA_Renter]If you don’t support Obama this is not the path to take. The state of Hawaii has verified the authenticity of the birth certificate. There are many other issues to discuss besides this. Dwelling on this tripe only helps Obama.[/quote]
Hawaii has not verified the certificate and Obama refuses to provide an original.
That is the whole purpose of the article.
My guess is Obama was born in Indonesia or Africa.
June 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM #230308Participant[quote=LA_Renter]If you don’t support Obama this is not the path to take. The state of Hawaii has verified the authenticity of the birth certificate. There are many other issues to discuss besides this. Dwelling on this tripe only helps Obama.[/quote]
Hawaii has not verified the certificate and Obama refuses to provide an original.
That is the whole purpose of the article.
My guess is Obama was born in Indonesia or Africa.
June 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM #230323Participant[quote=LA_Renter]If you don’t support Obama this is not the path to take. The state of Hawaii has verified the authenticity of the birth certificate. There are many other issues to discuss besides this. Dwelling on this tripe only helps Obama.[/quote]
Hawaii has not verified the certificate and Obama refuses to provide an original.
That is the whole purpose of the article.
My guess is Obama was born in Indonesia or Africa.
June 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM #230165blue_sky
ParticipantLet me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?
Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.
June 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM #230285ParticipantLet me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?
Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.
June 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM #230292ParticipantLet me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?
Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.
June 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM #230331ParticipantLet me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?
Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.
June 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM #230345ParticipantLet me get this straight, you think that the entire democratic party (I hear there might even be some lawyers in it) is so incredibly dumb that they would run a candidate who can’t actually be the president?
Please, let’s hear some real arguments. The people who frequent this board are too intelligent for this kind of crap.
June 28, 2008 at 1:50 PM #230184LA_Renter
ParticipantThe National Review online (a very conservative publication) pretty much poo poohs this.
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTIzMDE2OTJiOTkwNmE3MTQwOWZiODYyZTBiMzdhMmI=
“I spoke to Ms. Okubo late Wednesday afternoon, and she said she had seen the version of Obama’s certificate of live birth posted on the sites. While her office cannot verify the information on a form without the permission of the certificate holder (Obama), she said “the form is exactly the same” and it has “all the components of a birth certificate” record issued by the state. In other words, she sees no reason to think the version posted on Obama’s web site and Daily Kos is not genuine.
The “embossed seal” in question is, she said, probably on the back of the document provided to Daily Kos, but not visible (as in another certificate posted on Israel Insider for contrast). She thinks the difference in visibility can be attributed to the pressure used when applying the seal.
I know I was one of the guys who wondered if there was something there when Obama initially refused to provide his birth certificate to PolitiFact. It seems many people continue to think that they will uncover something that will prove Obama was born in Kenya and is therefore ineligible for office of the presidency. As I wrote in the initial post, this scenario is “rather unlikely, as it would require everyone in his family to lie about this in every interview and discussion with those outside the family since young Obama appeared on the scene.” I would add this would require Obama to lie about his birthplace in every interview going back to Harvard Law.”
June 28, 2008 at 1:50 PM #230304ParticipantThe National Review online (a very conservative publication) pretty much poo poohs this.
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTIzMDE2OTJiOTkwNmE3MTQwOWZiODYyZTBiMzdhMmI=
“I spoke to Ms. Okubo late Wednesday afternoon, and she said she had seen the version of Obama’s certificate of live birth posted on the sites. While her office cannot verify the information on a form without the permission of the certificate holder (Obama), she said “the form is exactly the same” and it has “all the components of a birth certificate” record issued by the state. In other words, she sees no reason to think the version posted on Obama’s web site and Daily Kos is not genuine.
The “embossed seal” in question is, she said, probably on the back of the document provided to Daily Kos, but not visible (as in another certificate posted on Israel Insider for contrast). She thinks the difference in visibility can be attributed to the pressure used when applying the seal.
I know I was one of the guys who wondered if there was something there when Obama initially refused to provide his birth certificate to PolitiFact. It seems many people continue to think that they will uncover something that will prove Obama was born in Kenya and is therefore ineligible for office of the presidency. As I wrote in the initial post, this scenario is “rather unlikely, as it would require everyone in his family to lie about this in every interview and discussion with those outside the family since young Obama appeared on the scene.” I would add this would require Obama to lie about his birthplace in every interview going back to Harvard Law.”
June 28, 2008 at 1:50 PM #230312ParticipantThe National Review online (a very conservative publication) pretty much poo poohs this.
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTIzMDE2OTJiOTkwNmE3MTQwOWZiODYyZTBiMzdhMmI=
“I spoke to Ms. Okubo late Wednesday afternoon, and she said she had seen the version of Obama’s certificate of live birth posted on the sites. While her office cannot verify the information on a form without the permission of the certificate holder (Obama), she said “the form is exactly the same” and it has “all the components of a birth certificate” record issued by the state. In other words, she sees no reason to think the version posted on Obama’s web site and Daily Kos is not genuine.
The “embossed seal” in question is, she said, probably on the back of the document provided to Daily Kos, but not visible (as in another certificate posted on Israel Insider for contrast). She thinks the difference in visibility can be attributed to the pressure used when applying the seal.
I know I was one of the guys who wondered if there was something there when Obama initially refused to provide his birth certificate to PolitiFact. It seems many people continue to think that they will uncover something that will prove Obama was born in Kenya and is therefore ineligible for office of the presidency. As I wrote in the initial post, this scenario is “rather unlikely, as it would require everyone in his family to lie about this in every interview and discussion with those outside the family since young Obama appeared on the scene.” I would add this would require Obama to lie about his birthplace in every interview going back to Harvard Law.”
June 28, 2008 at 1:50 PM #230348ParticipantThe National Review online (a very conservative publication) pretty much poo poohs this.
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTIzMDE2OTJiOTkwNmE3MTQwOWZiODYyZTBiMzdhMmI=
“I spoke to Ms. Okubo late Wednesday afternoon, and she said she had seen the version of Obama’s certificate of live birth posted on the sites. While her office cannot verify the information on a form without the permission of the certificate holder (Obama), she said “the form is exactly the same” and it has “all the components of a birth certificate” record issued by the state. In other words, she sees no reason to think the version posted on Obama’s web site and Daily Kos is not genuine.
The “embossed seal” in question is, she said, probably on the back of the document provided to Daily Kos, but not visible (as in another certificate posted on Israel Insider for contrast). She thinks the difference in visibility can be attributed to the pressure used when applying the seal.
I know I was one of the guys who wondered if there was something there when Obama initially refused to provide his birth certificate to PolitiFact. It seems many people continue to think that they will uncover something that will prove Obama was born in Kenya and is therefore ineligible for office of the presidency. As I wrote in the initial post, this scenario is “rather unlikely, as it would require everyone in his family to lie about this in every interview and discussion with those outside the family since young Obama appeared on the scene.” I would add this would require Obama to lie about his birthplace in every interview going back to Harvard Law.”
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