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March 23, 2009 at 6:38 AM #372161March 23, 2009 at 7:24 AM #3715534plexownerParticipant
simple and plain truth would be, “we’re all f**ked”
these words are not the way to get re-elected so the politicos use other words
March 23, 2009 at 7:24 AM #3718414plexownerParticipantsimple and plain truth would be, “we’re all f**ked”
these words are not the way to get re-elected so the politicos use other words
March 23, 2009 at 7:24 AM #3720124plexownerParticipantsimple and plain truth would be, “we’re all f**ked”
these words are not the way to get re-elected so the politicos use other words
March 23, 2009 at 7:24 AM #3720534plexownerParticipantsimple and plain truth would be, “we’re all f**ked”
these words are not the way to get re-elected so the politicos use other words
March 23, 2009 at 7:24 AM #3721664plexownerParticipantsimple and plain truth would be, “we’re all f**ked”
these words are not the way to get re-elected so the politicos use other words
March 23, 2009 at 7:47 AM #3715584plexownerParticipant“I think, he is going along, for the moment, with a consensus of wishes to prop up life as we know it at all costs. This consensus emanates from the top down and the bottom up. The millions of “Joe-the-Plumber(s)” out there don’t want to rethink the terms of existence anymore than the lords of Goldman Sachs. I also think that circumstances will force Mr. Obama’s hand before long — specifically that a moment will arrive when he goes on TV and tells the American public that things have changed way beyond the scope of what they even imagined when they pulled the levers last fall and voted for an uncharted future.”
this is James Kunstler this morning (http://www.kunstler.com/)
James is saying that we are all in denial at this point – both the unwashed masses and the politico / bankers – none of us are at the point yet where we can accept the reality that our economic system of the last 60 years is DEAD – eventually we will have to accept that reality and James is suggesting there will come a day when Obama actually will go on TV and say, “we’re all f**cked”
March 23, 2009 at 7:47 AM #3718464plexownerParticipant“I think, he is going along, for the moment, with a consensus of wishes to prop up life as we know it at all costs. This consensus emanates from the top down and the bottom up. The millions of “Joe-the-Plumber(s)” out there don’t want to rethink the terms of existence anymore than the lords of Goldman Sachs. I also think that circumstances will force Mr. Obama’s hand before long — specifically that a moment will arrive when he goes on TV and tells the American public that things have changed way beyond the scope of what they even imagined when they pulled the levers last fall and voted for an uncharted future.”
this is James Kunstler this morning (http://www.kunstler.com/)
James is saying that we are all in denial at this point – both the unwashed masses and the politico / bankers – none of us are at the point yet where we can accept the reality that our economic system of the last 60 years is DEAD – eventually we will have to accept that reality and James is suggesting there will come a day when Obama actually will go on TV and say, “we’re all f**cked”
March 23, 2009 at 7:47 AM #3720174plexownerParticipant“I think, he is going along, for the moment, with a consensus of wishes to prop up life as we know it at all costs. This consensus emanates from the top down and the bottom up. The millions of “Joe-the-Plumber(s)” out there don’t want to rethink the terms of existence anymore than the lords of Goldman Sachs. I also think that circumstances will force Mr. Obama’s hand before long — specifically that a moment will arrive when he goes on TV and tells the American public that things have changed way beyond the scope of what they even imagined when they pulled the levers last fall and voted for an uncharted future.”
this is James Kunstler this morning (http://www.kunstler.com/)
James is saying that we are all in denial at this point – both the unwashed masses and the politico / bankers – none of us are at the point yet where we can accept the reality that our economic system of the last 60 years is DEAD – eventually we will have to accept that reality and James is suggesting there will come a day when Obama actually will go on TV and say, “we’re all f**cked”
March 23, 2009 at 7:47 AM #3720584plexownerParticipant“I think, he is going along, for the moment, with a consensus of wishes to prop up life as we know it at all costs. This consensus emanates from the top down and the bottom up. The millions of “Joe-the-Plumber(s)” out there don’t want to rethink the terms of existence anymore than the lords of Goldman Sachs. I also think that circumstances will force Mr. Obama’s hand before long — specifically that a moment will arrive when he goes on TV and tells the American public that things have changed way beyond the scope of what they even imagined when they pulled the levers last fall and voted for an uncharted future.”
this is James Kunstler this morning (http://www.kunstler.com/)
James is saying that we are all in denial at this point – both the unwashed masses and the politico / bankers – none of us are at the point yet where we can accept the reality that our economic system of the last 60 years is DEAD – eventually we will have to accept that reality and James is suggesting there will come a day when Obama actually will go on TV and say, “we’re all f**cked”
March 23, 2009 at 7:47 AM #3721714plexownerParticipant“I think, he is going along, for the moment, with a consensus of wishes to prop up life as we know it at all costs. This consensus emanates from the top down and the bottom up. The millions of “Joe-the-Plumber(s)” out there don’t want to rethink the terms of existence anymore than the lords of Goldman Sachs. I also think that circumstances will force Mr. Obama’s hand before long — specifically that a moment will arrive when he goes on TV and tells the American public that things have changed way beyond the scope of what they even imagined when they pulled the levers last fall and voted for an uncharted future.”
this is James Kunstler this morning (http://www.kunstler.com/)
James is saying that we are all in denial at this point – both the unwashed masses and the politico / bankers – none of us are at the point yet where we can accept the reality that our economic system of the last 60 years is DEAD – eventually we will have to accept that reality and James is suggesting there will come a day when Obama actually will go on TV and say, “we’re all f**cked”
March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM #371966fuggyParticipantNo, I don’t get your point.
Obama claims he wants to stimulate the economy. That is how he is getting away with giving a trillion to the gamblers at the banks and AIG.The gov’t isn’t going to sit idly by during this crisis (that Phil Gramm and our other clowns in congress created).
So since the money WILL be created and spent, why wouldn’t it be a better idea to loan it out at below market rates to regular Americans?
I don’t see how that can “make things worse”. Just diluting my dollar by 20% to fork over to the gamblers at AIG is worse.
The lucky congress-owners at AIG will move that money into gold and put it in Switzerland. Who does that help?
You don’t happen to be an AIG exec, huh?
March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM #372250fuggyParticipantNo, I don’t get your point.
Obama claims he wants to stimulate the economy. That is how he is getting away with giving a trillion to the gamblers at the banks and AIG.The gov’t isn’t going to sit idly by during this crisis (that Phil Gramm and our other clowns in congress created).
So since the money WILL be created and spent, why wouldn’t it be a better idea to loan it out at below market rates to regular Americans?
I don’t see how that can “make things worse”. Just diluting my dollar by 20% to fork over to the gamblers at AIG is worse.
The lucky congress-owners at AIG will move that money into gold and put it in Switzerland. Who does that help?
You don’t happen to be an AIG exec, huh?
March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM #372422fuggyParticipantNo, I don’t get your point.
Obama claims he wants to stimulate the economy. That is how he is getting away with giving a trillion to the gamblers at the banks and AIG.The gov’t isn’t going to sit idly by during this crisis (that Phil Gramm and our other clowns in congress created).
So since the money WILL be created and spent, why wouldn’t it be a better idea to loan it out at below market rates to regular Americans?
I don’t see how that can “make things worse”. Just diluting my dollar by 20% to fork over to the gamblers at AIG is worse.
The lucky congress-owners at AIG will move that money into gold and put it in Switzerland. Who does that help?
You don’t happen to be an AIG exec, huh?
March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM #372465fuggyParticipantNo, I don’t get your point.
Obama claims he wants to stimulate the economy. That is how he is getting away with giving a trillion to the gamblers at the banks and AIG.The gov’t isn’t going to sit idly by during this crisis (that Phil Gramm and our other clowns in congress created).
So since the money WILL be created and spent, why wouldn’t it be a better idea to loan it out at below market rates to regular Americans?
I don’t see how that can “make things worse”. Just diluting my dollar by 20% to fork over to the gamblers at AIG is worse.
The lucky congress-owners at AIG will move that money into gold and put it in Switzerland. Who does that help?
You don’t happen to be an AIG exec, huh?
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