Are federal workers overpaid? Avg 123k?? It’s insane!

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

I agree in general on reducing the number of federal employees, but the comparison given above is not apples-to-apples.

The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.

In fact, as we reduce federal employment to fewer numbers, the approach has been to keep the oversight and management government positions, and outsource the lower-paid positions.
So, as we right-size the government, this metric will probably continue to skew higher for the average federal employee, compared to average private employee.

A better metric would be a comparison of wages and benefits for similar positions at various levels. If one looks at that comparison I would suspect that the higher end jobs (engineering, management) pay signficantly more in salary/benefits in the private sector than in Federal employment, while lower end jobs likely pay more in the federal govt than in privsate employment.

[briansd1]

Yes.

We should not build a class of over-paid functionaries to govern us. Once they’re fat and live in comfort they don’t care about the people anymore.

Remember the Soviet Union? Government employees were the privileged class.

The money should to be directed to services for the people who need them (student loans/grants, aid to the poor, etc… )

[briansd1]

Yes.

We should not build a class of over-paid functionaries to govern us. Once they’re fat and live in comfort they don’t care about the people anymore.

Remember the Soviet Union? Government employees were the privileged class.

The money should to be directed to services for the people who need them (student loans/grants, aid to the poor, etc… )

[briansd1]

Yes.

We should not build a class of over-paid functionaries to govern us. Once they’re fat and live in comfort they don’t care about the people anymore.

Remember the Soviet Union? Government employees were the privileged class.

The money should to be directed to services for the people who need them (student loans/grants, aid to the poor, etc… )

[briansd1]

Yes.

We should not build a class of over-paid functionaries to govern us. Once they’re fat and live in comfort they don’t care about the people anymore.

Remember the Soviet Union? Government employees were the privileged class.

The money should to be directed to services for the people who need them (student loans/grants, aid to the poor, etc… )

[briansd1]

Yes.

We should not build a class of over-paid functionaries to govern us. Once they’re fat and live in comfort they don’t care about the people anymore.

Remember the Soviet Union? Government employees were the privileged class.

The money should to be directed to services for the people who need them (student loans/grants, aid to the poor, etc… )

[beanmaestro]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.
[/quote]

+1

[beanmaestro]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.
[/quote]

+1

[beanmaestro]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.
[/quote]

+1

[beanmaestro]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.
[/quote]

+1

[beanmaestro]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.
[/quote]

+1

[Coronita]

Look folks. If you haven’t noticed, government wastes money. It might not jive with your values or what you think is right/wrong, but there is very little you can do about it. You really think a bunch of minority ticked off people are going to effect change? You think the tea party movement is going to make a dent? Nope…

The only time change happens is when the majority of the people are ticked off and demand change…Guess what? Majority of americans probably WANT bailouts. Folks who are fiscally responsible (regardless of political affiliation) are the minorities in america. That’s why our savings rates is piss poor, and to some extent that’s why our country is piss in debt.
Screaming/kicking/etc ain’t going to do didly…

The only thing you can really do is to shore up your own/family financial situation so that when the crap hits the fan (and it will hit the fan), you are at less screwed than other people. Everything else is window dressing.

The only time when all these bailouts will stop is either
(a) if the economy magically grows (not going to happen
(b) the funny money stops and we’re totally screwed, and the majority of folks have no food/clothing/and/or shelter. (which is going to take some time…Probably our kids are screwed, we probably won’t see it..Folks that don’t have kids have nothing to worry about..So spend away!!!) The majority of the collective “we” move in an a herd mentality, and the prevailing wind of the herd is “I want to get bailed out”…Herds don’t like minorities that scream the sky is falling and it’s bad…That’s just the fact of life..

It’s time to start putting plan B and C together for yourself… QED..

[Coronita]

Look folks. If you haven’t noticed, government wastes money. It might not jive with your values or what you think is right/wrong, but there is very little you can do about it. You really think a bunch of minority ticked off people are going to effect change? You think the tea party movement is going to make a dent? Nope…

The only time change happens is when the majority of the people are ticked off and demand change…Guess what? Majority of americans probably WANT bailouts. Folks who are fiscally responsible (regardless of political affiliation) are the minorities in america. That’s why our savings rates is piss poor, and to some extent that’s why our country is piss in debt.
Screaming/kicking/etc ain’t going to do didly…

The only thing you can really do is to shore up your own/family financial situation so that when the crap hits the fan (and it will hit the fan), you are at less screwed than other people. Everything else is window dressing.

The only time when all these bailouts will stop is either
(a) if the economy magically grows (not going to happen
(b) the funny money stops and we’re totally screwed, and the majority of folks have no food/clothing/and/or shelter. (which is going to take some time…Probably our kids are screwed, we probably won’t see it..Folks that don’t have kids have nothing to worry about..So spend away!!!) The majority of the collective “we” move in an a herd mentality, and the prevailing wind of the herd is “I want to get bailed out”…Herds don’t like minorities that scream the sky is falling and it’s bad…That’s just the fact of life..

It’s time to start putting plan B and C together for yourself… QED..

[Coronita]

Look folks. If you haven’t noticed, government wastes money. It might not jive with your values or what you think is right/wrong, but there is very little you can do about it. You really think a bunch of minority ticked off people are going to effect change? You think the tea party movement is going to make a dent? Nope…

The only time change happens is when the majority of the people are ticked off and demand change…Guess what? Majority of americans probably WANT bailouts. Folks who are fiscally responsible (regardless of political affiliation) are the minorities in america. That’s why our savings rates is piss poor, and to some extent that’s why our country is piss in debt.
Screaming/kicking/etc ain’t going to do didly…

The only thing you can really do is to shore up your own/family financial situation so that when the crap hits the fan (and it will hit the fan), you are at less screwed than other people. Everything else is window dressing.

The only time when all these bailouts will stop is either
(a) if the economy magically grows (not going to happen
(b) the funny money stops and we’re totally screwed, and the majority of folks have no food/clothing/and/or shelter. (which is going to take some time…Probably our kids are screwed, we probably won’t see it..Folks that don’t have kids have nothing to worry about..So spend away!!!) The majority of the collective “we” move in an a herd mentality, and the prevailing wind of the herd is “I want to get bailed out”…Herds don’t like minorities that scream the sky is falling and it’s bad…That’s just the fact of life..

It’s time to start putting plan B and C together for yourself… QED..

[Coronita]

Look folks. If you haven’t noticed, government wastes money. It might not jive with your values or what you think is right/wrong, but there is very little you can do about it. You really think a bunch of minority ticked off people are going to effect change? You think the tea party movement is going to make a dent? Nope…

The only time change happens is when the majority of the people are ticked off and demand change…Guess what? Majority of americans probably WANT bailouts. Folks who are fiscally responsible (regardless of political affiliation) are the minorities in america. That’s why our savings rates is piss poor, and to some extent that’s why our country is piss in debt.
Screaming/kicking/etc ain’t going to do didly…

The only thing you can really do is to shore up your own/family financial situation so that when the crap hits the fan (and it will hit the fan), you are at less screwed than other people. Everything else is window dressing.

The only time when all these bailouts will stop is either
(a) if the economy magically grows (not going to happen
(b) the funny money stops and we’re totally screwed, and the majority of folks have no food/clothing/and/or shelter. (which is going to take some time…Probably our kids are screwed, we probably won’t see it..Folks that don’t have kids have nothing to worry about..So spend away!!!) The majority of the collective “we” move in an a herd mentality, and the prevailing wind of the herd is “I want to get bailed out”…Herds don’t like minorities that scream the sky is falling and it’s bad…That’s just the fact of life..

It’s time to start putting plan B and C together for yourself… QED..

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