Any NATIVE San Diegans here?

[capeman]

Born and raised 4th generation here. I would have to say that most all of the market bulls I have met in San Diego are not native and usually are <10 year residents. Being one to have seen what housing costs have been in the past and what they are now I am a big bear…. probably as big as that kodiak that tried to eat Anthony Hopkins in that one movie. I should probably go on a diet and lay off the financial and homebuilder bear blogs….

[capeman]

Born and raised 4th generation here. I would have to say that most all of the market bulls I have met in San Diego are not native and usually are <10 year residents. Being one to have seen what housing costs have been in the past and what they are now I am a big bear…. probably as big as that kodiak that tried to eat Anthony Hopkins in that one movie. I should probably go on a diet and lay off the financial and homebuilder bear blogs….

[sdcellar]

Got it. Makes total sense. Thanks San Diego Native.

[sdcellar]

Got it. Makes total sense. Thanks San Diego Native.

[lostkitty]

San Diego Native-

You wrote: "Many of us who have owned property here for years–now free and clear–just don't think about these things…  no one I know in La Jolla or other coastal areas is buying or selling, so until friends asked our opinion about buying in the near future, we hadn't given it much thought."

Hasn't the rapid growth in San Diego given you or your other Native friends any concern at all?  My family has been in San Diego for decades and decades.. We watch the freeways, streets, (and sewers!) clog up with total disappointment.  It may not affect the price of your house, but this bublble certainly has had an effect on your quality of life.  Do you agree?  Getting into LJ has become an exercise in patience.

[lostkitty]

San Diego Native-

You wrote: "Many of us who have owned property here for years–now free and clear–just don't think about these things…  no one I know in La Jolla or other coastal areas is buying or selling, so until friends asked our opinion about buying in the near future, we hadn't given it much thought."

Hasn't the rapid growth in San Diego given you or your other Native friends any concern at all?  My family has been in San Diego for decades and decades.. We watch the freeways, streets, (and sewers!) clog up with total disappointment.  It may not affect the price of your house, but this bublble certainly has had an effect on your quality of life.  Do you agree?  Getting into LJ has become an exercise in patience.

[lostkitty]

jg – “May your husband have an awakening,”

He’s already had that “awakening” you mention. That is why he stopped going to church!

Let me tell you how it went….
Young, nice, polite, accomplished, blonde blue eyed Catholic boy meets totally smokin’ hot long legged SoCal natural beach girl (that would be me). They date for a few years, he asks her to marry him. She is not Catholic, but was for the first 5 years of her life, until her alcoholic father left his wife and five children so he could have the freedom to sit in a bar without getting nagged about passing out on the living room floor in front of the children each evening afterwards.
Her mother went looking for guidance from the priest. She cried, wondering how she was going to make the transition from stay-at-home RSF mom, with hired help, to full-time working mother on a nurse’s salary with five kids aged 3,5,6,10, and 11 in a tiny little tract home. She was given no help or sympathy, but rather told she should repent, etc etc.
She tried to comply (she was raised as a strict Catholic girl), but one day as she watch the gay priest – who, BTW, was always blatanly flirting with her 10yr old son –flitting/sashaying/waltzing down the aisle at Mass (she had heard rumblings about their gay cocaine parties as well – which were all confirmed by the newspapers a few years later) — it suddenly occured to her…. “F*%k this Sh*t! I DID NOTHING WRONG HERE! Who are these guys to judge me.” That was they day she learned to think for herself – and stopped attending the Catholic church.

So, back to the early 90’s part of the story. Nice Catholic blonde boy takes sunkissed wife-to-be to the Catholic church to discuss marriage. The priest says that although future wife was baptised Catholic and is currently attending Mass regularly with husband to be, she did not go through 1st Communion so they cannot be married. Priest gives young maiden lots of up-n-down eyeball evaluation, and then tells couple how he will be oh-so-generous in this situation, and offers that if couple finds their own priest, he’ll be generous enough to let them use his church for the service (for a small fee).
The nice catholic boy was offended. How could his church, who he has served and worshipped at for his entire life, turn away the woman he loves, the woman he has carefully chosen to marry?
Viola! Awakening…

My husband is a well-read individual, and knows perfectly well that it was the rituals and stories in his religion that he was worshipping, and so our kids have attended CCD from the earliest ages, until the age when ‘reason” takes over (about the same time they realize Santa is not a real person)… Just long enough to learn the stories of the Good Samaritan, etc. The Bible has excellent lessons for living in society. i do not dispute that, but there are also some horrible, intolerant messages in there, and I NEVER want my kids to follow along blindly ‘because they should’. I believe that is exactly how my mom got into the predicament that she did. She married this guy, and then was stuck because of the “rules” she lived by as dictated to her by her church.
She is now a VERY strong, happy and satisfied 73 year old woman… living near the beach in SB, and always speaking her mind. All her children went to college and or post-grad, and are functioning individuals. We drink, but none of us to excess… She did this with no financial help from anyone at all.. She also did not need the church.

[lostkitty]

jg – “May your husband have an awakening,”

He’s already had that “awakening” you mention. That is why he stopped going to church!

Let me tell you how it went….
Young, nice, polite, accomplished, blonde blue eyed Catholic boy meets totally smokin’ hot long legged SoCal natural beach girl (that would be me). They date for a few years, he asks her to marry him. She is not Catholic, but was for the first 5 years of her life, until her alcoholic father left his wife and five children so he could have the freedom to sit in a bar without getting nagged about passing out on the living room floor in front of the children each evening afterwards.
Her mother went looking for guidance from the priest. She cried, wondering how she was going to make the transition from stay-at-home RSF mom, with hired help, to full-time working mother on a nurse’s salary with five kids aged 3,5,6,10, and 11 in a tiny little tract home. She was given no help or sympathy, but rather told she should repent, etc etc.
She tried to comply (she was raised as a strict Catholic girl), but one day as she watch the gay priest – who, BTW, was always blatanly flirting with her 10yr old son –flitting/sashaying/waltzing down the aisle at Mass (she had heard rumblings about their gay cocaine parties as well – which were all confirmed by the newspapers a few years later) — it suddenly occured to her…. “F*%k this Sh*t! I DID NOTHING WRONG HERE! Who are these guys to judge me.” That was they day she learned to think for herself – and stopped attending the Catholic church.

So, back to the early 90’s part of the story. Nice Catholic blonde boy takes sunkissed wife-to-be to the Catholic church to discuss marriage. The priest says that although future wife was baptised Catholic and is currently attending Mass regularly with husband to be, she did not go through 1st Communion so they cannot be married. Priest gives young maiden lots of up-n-down eyeball evaluation, and then tells couple how he will be oh-so-generous in this situation, and offers that if couple finds their own priest, he’ll be generous enough to let them use his church for the service (for a small fee).
The nice catholic boy was offended. How could his church, who he has served and worshipped at for his entire life, turn away the woman he loves, the woman he has carefully chosen to marry?
Viola! Awakening…

My husband is a well-read individual, and knows perfectly well that it was the rituals and stories in his religion that he was worshipping, and so our kids have attended CCD from the earliest ages, until the age when ‘reason” takes over (about the same time they realize Santa is not a real person)… Just long enough to learn the stories of the Good Samaritan, etc. The Bible has excellent lessons for living in society. i do not dispute that, but there are also some horrible, intolerant messages in there, and I NEVER want my kids to follow along blindly ‘because they should’. I believe that is exactly how my mom got into the predicament that she did. She married this guy, and then was stuck because of the “rules” she lived by as dictated to her by her church.
She is now a VERY strong, happy and satisfied 73 year old woman… living near the beach in SB, and always speaking her mind. All her children went to college and or post-grad, and are functioning individuals. We drink, but none of us to excess… She did this with no financial help from anyone at all.. She also did not need the church.

[4plexowner]

15+ yrs in San Diego – watched Clairemont houses rise through the $100K level way back when

owned 15+ rental units locally – sold them all between 2002 and 2005 – kept personal residence because of low tax basis and family vs money reasoning (if it were just me I’d be renting right now) – will be buying again when/if rentals make sense as an investment (vs a speculation) – also plan to buy a view property (or several) during this correction

I believe there will be ‘entry level’ view properties in La Jolla, Pt Loma, Mission Hills, etc for around $800K in 2011/2012 – these houses are currently selling for $1.4 to $1.8 mil

San Diego is paradise – natives don’t realize that until they live somewhere else

[4plexowner]

15+ yrs in San Diego – watched Clairemont houses rise through the $100K level way back when

owned 15+ rental units locally – sold them all between 2002 and 2005 – kept personal residence because of low tax basis and family vs money reasoning (if it were just me I’d be renting right now) – will be buying again when/if rentals make sense as an investment (vs a speculation) – also plan to buy a view property (or several) during this correction

I believe there will be ‘entry level’ view properties in La Jolla, Pt Loma, Mission Hills, etc for around $800K in 2011/2012 – these houses are currently selling for $1.4 to $1.8 mil

San Diego is paradise – natives don’t realize that until they live somewhere else

[Anonymous]

Yep, the Catholic Church is strict about who it gives its imprimatur to, about who it marries in its churches. My wife was Lutheran (and had gone through First Communion and, I think, Confirmation), and had to agree to raise our children as Catholics. She did, and we got to marry at The Immaculata.

Glad to hear that you and your husband are raising your children well. Glad to hear that your mother is doing well.

Thank goodness lawsuits forced the Catholic Church to confront its “Purple Mafia” (homosexual priests ordained in the aftermath of the ’60s). The sexual abuse of the Catholic Church in the past was, largely, the abuse of boys by men, i.e., homosexuality forced upon young, impressionable boys. The ‘weak-stream’ media portray it as otherwise, of course.

Different people react to tough situations in different ways. Your mother married, and divorced, an alcoholic; my mother married, and divorced, a womanizer. But, my mother still took us to church and led us through the sacraments.

What intolerant messages do you see in the New Testament, lk? Sure, the Old Testament is full of fire and brimstone and stonings, but to Christians, the Old Testament only prepared the way, and was supplanted by the Two Great Commandments.

[Anonymous]

Yep, the Catholic Church is strict about who it gives its imprimatur to, about who it marries in its churches. My wife was Lutheran (and had gone through First Communion and, I think, Confirmation), and had to agree to raise our children as Catholics. She did, and we got to marry at The Immaculata.

Glad to hear that you and your husband are raising your children well. Glad to hear that your mother is doing well.

Thank goodness lawsuits forced the Catholic Church to confront its “Purple Mafia” (homosexual priests ordained in the aftermath of the ’60s). The sexual abuse of the Catholic Church in the past was, largely, the abuse of boys by men, i.e., homosexuality forced upon young, impressionable boys. The ‘weak-stream’ media portray it as otherwise, of course.

Different people react to tough situations in different ways. Your mother married, and divorced, an alcoholic; my mother married, and divorced, a womanizer. But, my mother still took us to church and led us through the sacraments.

What intolerant messages do you see in the New Testament, lk? Sure, the Old Testament is full of fire and brimstone and stonings, but to Christians, the Old Testament only prepared the way, and was supplanted by the Two Great Commandments.

[Anonymous]

And, folks have different gauntlets to try to run when it comes to marriage; you had the Catholic Church, I had a future mother-in-law:

I asked my future father-in-law for his daughter’s hand; I got his ‘blessing.’ I then proposed to my future wife, who accepted, in March ’90. My mother-in-law wanted a summer wedding for her only daughter, with the reception to be held at their lovely La Mesa/Mt. Helix home. She said that she could not make all of the arrangements in five months. I said how about a December ’90 wedding. She said, ‘No.’ I said, ‘You win, summer ’91 it is.’

So, it was a painful wait, proposal to wedding, 18 months. Yep, negotiating the straits on weddings can be trying. May it be easier for you and your husband with your kids and their spouses.

[Anonymous]

And, folks have different gauntlets to try to run when it comes to marriage; you had the Catholic Church, I had a future mother-in-law:

I asked my future father-in-law for his daughter’s hand; I got his ‘blessing.’ I then proposed to my future wife, who accepted, in March ’90. My mother-in-law wanted a summer wedding for her only daughter, with the reception to be held at their lovely La Mesa/Mt. Helix home. She said that she could not make all of the arrangements in five months. I said how about a December ’90 wedding. She said, ‘No.’ I said, ‘You win, summer ’91 it is.’

So, it was a painful wait, proposal to wedding, 18 months. Yep, negotiating the straits on weddings can be trying. May it be easier for you and your husband with your kids and their spouses.

[PerryChase]

jg, did you have pre-marital sex with your wife or anyone else? (just joking :)).

For me Catholicism was just tradition but did not mean a lot. Dad warned me at a young age to not believe everything the church said and never to take anything at face value. He also talked politics to me when I was 5.

Catholic mass is beautiful but the Church is all about money — money for this, money for that, and big bucks when you die.

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