Agricultural water rate?

[DWCAP]

oh, I also know that usually AG rates only apply to parcels over a certain size. Something like 5 acres.

“The study concluded agricultural users weren’t paying their fair share, and it recommended that the ag rate increase from $1.96 per 1,000 gallons to the same price most residential users pay – $2.73 per 1,000 gallons, a 39 percent increase.”

This is from 2006, but it says enough.

http://sports.uniontrib.com/uniontrib/20060614/news_1mi14efarm.html

[Eugene]

I grew up in a place where grass was green without any sprinklers, there were oaks and birches, and my family had a big garden with everything from strawberries to currants to potatoes and eggplants. I think that a big green back yard is an integral part of the house and if I have to pay $100/month or $200/month to keep it green, so be it. It’s a small price to pay compared with $2000/month rent. Barren desert landscape is the biggest thing I don’t like about San Diego. If I could live anywhere I want and I didn’t have to work for a living, I’d probably move somewhere further north, maybe to Oregon.

Judging by lot sizes I see in San Diego, I’m in the minority here.

Today they ask as to cut down on watering our lawns and to replace real grass with artificial grass, because there’s not enough water in the state to keep green lawns and gardens. Tomorrow they will ask us to shower twice a week, because they want to fit 50 million people in California and there won’t be not enough water for everyone to shower every day. Or maybe we should set our A/C’s to 85 during the day and light our houses by burning dry brush in fireplaces during the night because United States don’t have enough power plants.

Southern California is an oasis and we should strive to keep it an oasis rather than try to turn it into thousands of square miles of gray dusty houses populated by gray dusty people.

If we’re running out of water in Colorado River, maybe we shouldn’t build more houses, and maybe we should build a desalination plant or two next to San Onofre. I’ll even put some solar panels on the roof to help with desalination energy costs, if that is necessary.

Does that answer your question?

[Eugene]

I grew up in a place where grass was green without any sprinklers, there were oaks and birches, and my family had a big garden with everything from strawberries to currants to potatoes and eggplants. I think that a big green back yard is an integral part of the house and if I have to pay $100/month or $200/month to keep it green, so be it. It’s a small price to pay compared with $2000/month rent. Barren desert landscape is the biggest thing I don’t like about San Diego. If I could live anywhere I want and I didn’t have to work for a living, I’d probably move somewhere further north, maybe to Oregon.

Judging by lot sizes I see in San Diego, I’m in the minority here.

Today they ask as to cut down on watering our lawns and to replace real grass with artificial grass, because there’s not enough water in the state to keep green lawns and gardens. Tomorrow they will ask us to shower twice a week, because they want to fit 50 million people in California and there won’t be not enough water for everyone to shower every day. Or maybe we should set our A/C’s to 85 during the day and light our houses by burning dry brush in fireplaces during the night because United States don’t have enough power plants.

Southern California is an oasis and we should strive to keep it an oasis rather than try to turn it into thousands of square miles of gray dusty houses populated by gray dusty people.

If we’re running out of water in Colorado River, maybe we shouldn’t build more houses, and maybe we should build a desalination plant or two next to San Onofre. I’ll even put some solar panels on the roof to help with desalination energy costs, if that is necessary.

Does that answer your question?

[Eugene]

I grew up in a place where grass was green without any sprinklers, there were oaks and birches, and my family had a big garden with everything from strawberries to currants to potatoes and eggplants. I think that a big green back yard is an integral part of the house and if I have to pay $100/month or $200/month to keep it green, so be it. It’s a small price to pay compared with $2000/month rent. Barren desert landscape is the biggest thing I don’t like about San Diego. If I could live anywhere I want and I didn’t have to work for a living, I’d probably move somewhere further north, maybe to Oregon.

Judging by lot sizes I see in San Diego, I’m in the minority here.

Today they ask as to cut down on watering our lawns and to replace real grass with artificial grass, because there’s not enough water in the state to keep green lawns and gardens. Tomorrow they will ask us to shower twice a week, because they want to fit 50 million people in California and there won’t be not enough water for everyone to shower every day. Or maybe we should set our A/C’s to 85 during the day and light our houses by burning dry brush in fireplaces during the night because United States don’t have enough power plants.

Southern California is an oasis and we should strive to keep it an oasis rather than try to turn it into thousands of square miles of gray dusty houses populated by gray dusty people.

If we’re running out of water in Colorado River, maybe we shouldn’t build more houses, and maybe we should build a desalination plant or two next to San Onofre. I’ll even put some solar panels on the roof to help with desalination energy costs, if that is necessary.

Does that answer your question?

[Eugene]

I grew up in a place where grass was green without any sprinklers, there were oaks and birches, and my family had a big garden with everything from strawberries to currants to potatoes and eggplants. I think that a big green back yard is an integral part of the house and if I have to pay $100/month or $200/month to keep it green, so be it. It’s a small price to pay compared with $2000/month rent. Barren desert landscape is the biggest thing I don’t like about San Diego. If I could live anywhere I want and I didn’t have to work for a living, I’d probably move somewhere further north, maybe to Oregon.

Judging by lot sizes I see in San Diego, I’m in the minority here.

Today they ask as to cut down on watering our lawns and to replace real grass with artificial grass, because there’s not enough water in the state to keep green lawns and gardens. Tomorrow they will ask us to shower twice a week, because they want to fit 50 million people in California and there won’t be not enough water for everyone to shower every day. Or maybe we should set our A/C’s to 85 during the day and light our houses by burning dry brush in fireplaces during the night because United States don’t have enough power plants.

Southern California is an oasis and we should strive to keep it an oasis rather than try to turn it into thousands of square miles of gray dusty houses populated by gray dusty people.

If we’re running out of water in Colorado River, maybe we shouldn’t build more houses, and maybe we should build a desalination plant or two next to San Onofre. I’ll even put some solar panels on the roof to help with desalination energy costs, if that is necessary.

Does that answer your question?

[Eugene]

I grew up in a place where grass was green without any sprinklers, there were oaks and birches, and my family had a big garden with everything from strawberries to currants to potatoes and eggplants. I think that a big green back yard is an integral part of the house and if I have to pay $100/month or $200/month to keep it green, so be it. It’s a small price to pay compared with $2000/month rent. Barren desert landscape is the biggest thing I don’t like about San Diego. If I could live anywhere I want and I didn’t have to work for a living, I’d probably move somewhere further north, maybe to Oregon.

Judging by lot sizes I see in San Diego, I’m in the minority here.

Today they ask as to cut down on watering our lawns and to replace real grass with artificial grass, because there’s not enough water in the state to keep green lawns and gardens. Tomorrow they will ask us to shower twice a week, because they want to fit 50 million people in California and there won’t be not enough water for everyone to shower every day. Or maybe we should set our A/C’s to 85 during the day and light our houses by burning dry brush in fireplaces during the night because United States don’t have enough power plants.

Southern California is an oasis and we should strive to keep it an oasis rather than try to turn it into thousands of square miles of gray dusty houses populated by gray dusty people.

If we’re running out of water in Colorado River, maybe we shouldn’t build more houses, and maybe we should build a desalination plant or two next to San Onofre. I’ll even put some solar panels on the roof to help with desalination energy costs, if that is necessary.

Does that answer your question?

[SD Realtor]

Actually the solution to your problem is a grey water system. Unfortunately the regulatory structure in place STRONGLY discourages the implementation of them making it virtually impossible. I was over at a friends house last month and he had a system in his place that was pretty sweet. He has a bigger lot then 8k sf, I think his is more like 12k sf and his system is not permitted. I have seen 2 other people do it as well. I don’t promote doing this because as Rustico pointed out in a previous post when I spoke about this, if they are not done properly there are serious health risks. The water cannot be airborne and there are a litany of safety measures to put in. Also each person did not plumb the entire home for the system, only a select number of areas. Furthermore I did not ask what they intend to do if they ever sell the home with regards to removing the system or not, and/or disclosure. Each was very happy with the water bill though as they saw reductions of more then half as yard watering dominates most peoples water bill.

[SD Realtor]

Actually the solution to your problem is a grey water system. Unfortunately the regulatory structure in place STRONGLY discourages the implementation of them making it virtually impossible. I was over at a friends house last month and he had a system in his place that was pretty sweet. He has a bigger lot then 8k sf, I think his is more like 12k sf and his system is not permitted. I have seen 2 other people do it as well. I don’t promote doing this because as Rustico pointed out in a previous post when I spoke about this, if they are not done properly there are serious health risks. The water cannot be airborne and there are a litany of safety measures to put in. Also each person did not plumb the entire home for the system, only a select number of areas. Furthermore I did not ask what they intend to do if they ever sell the home with regards to removing the system or not, and/or disclosure. Each was very happy with the water bill though as they saw reductions of more then half as yard watering dominates most peoples water bill.

[SD Realtor]

Actually the solution to your problem is a grey water system. Unfortunately the regulatory structure in place STRONGLY discourages the implementation of them making it virtually impossible. I was over at a friends house last month and he had a system in his place that was pretty sweet. He has a bigger lot then 8k sf, I think his is more like 12k sf and his system is not permitted. I have seen 2 other people do it as well. I don’t promote doing this because as Rustico pointed out in a previous post when I spoke about this, if they are not done properly there are serious health risks. The water cannot be airborne and there are a litany of safety measures to put in. Also each person did not plumb the entire home for the system, only a select number of areas. Furthermore I did not ask what they intend to do if they ever sell the home with regards to removing the system or not, and/or disclosure. Each was very happy with the water bill though as they saw reductions of more then half as yard watering dominates most peoples water bill.

[SD Realtor]

Actually the solution to your problem is a grey water system. Unfortunately the regulatory structure in place STRONGLY discourages the implementation of them making it virtually impossible. I was over at a friends house last month and he had a system in his place that was pretty sweet. He has a bigger lot then 8k sf, I think his is more like 12k sf and his system is not permitted. I have seen 2 other people do it as well. I don’t promote doing this because as Rustico pointed out in a previous post when I spoke about this, if they are not done properly there are serious health risks. The water cannot be airborne and there are a litany of safety measures to put in. Also each person did not plumb the entire home for the system, only a select number of areas. Furthermore I did not ask what they intend to do if they ever sell the home with regards to removing the system or not, and/or disclosure. Each was very happy with the water bill though as they saw reductions of more then half as yard watering dominates most peoples water bill.

[SD Realtor]

Actually the solution to your problem is a grey water system. Unfortunately the regulatory structure in place STRONGLY discourages the implementation of them making it virtually impossible. I was over at a friends house last month and he had a system in his place that was pretty sweet. He has a bigger lot then 8k sf, I think his is more like 12k sf and his system is not permitted. I have seen 2 other people do it as well. I don’t promote doing this because as Rustico pointed out in a previous post when I spoke about this, if they are not done properly there are serious health risks. The water cannot be airborne and there are a litany of safety measures to put in. Also each person did not plumb the entire home for the system, only a select number of areas. Furthermore I did not ask what they intend to do if they ever sell the home with regards to removing the system or not, and/or disclosure. Each was very happy with the water bill though as they saw reductions of more then half as yard watering dominates most peoples water bill.

[seattle-relo]

The water shortage in California, and especially Southern California, is real. About 80%-90% of San Diego water comes from either the Colorado River basin or from Northern California (State Water Project). Due to the drought in the Colorado River basin San Diego had to obtain about 78% of its water from the State Water Project. However, a judicial ruling last year determined that due to impacts on the endangered Delta smelt the current pumping of water from Northern California to Southern California must be dramatically reduced, or possibly cease.

Some links on this issue:
http://www.calwatercrisis.org/problem.htm
http://voiceofsandiego.org/articles/2007/04/30/news/01water043007.txt

Desalination is a possibility for the future, but the cost of the treatment process is still substantially higher than other available options. It will also take time to build the plants, so expect at least five years before a plant can be designed, permitted and constructed. If desalination becomes the only option you can expect that water prices will substantially increase until that technology becomes further refined.

If water use isn’t reduced in the near term then San Diego will be forced to purchase water from other sources, such as Imperial County, that has rights to the limited supply from the Colorado River. However, San Diego will be competing with other communities in Southern California that are in the same water shortage situation. The price of water will go up, the question is by how much. What if the cost to water that grass is $400/month or more?

[seattle-relo]

The water shortage in California, and especially Southern California, is real. About 80%-90% of San Diego water comes from either the Colorado River basin or from Northern California (State Water Project). Due to the drought in the Colorado River basin San Diego had to obtain about 78% of its water from the State Water Project. However, a judicial ruling last year determined that due to impacts on the endangered Delta smelt the current pumping of water from Northern California to Southern California must be dramatically reduced, or possibly cease.

Some links on this issue:
http://www.calwatercrisis.org/problem.htm
http://voiceofsandiego.org/articles/2007/04/30/news/01water043007.txt

Desalination is a possibility for the future, but the cost of the treatment process is still substantially higher than other available options. It will also take time to build the plants, so expect at least five years before a plant can be designed, permitted and constructed. If desalination becomes the only option you can expect that water prices will substantially increase until that technology becomes further refined.

If water use isn’t reduced in the near term then San Diego will be forced to purchase water from other sources, such as Imperial County, that has rights to the limited supply from the Colorado River. However, San Diego will be competing with other communities in Southern California that are in the same water shortage situation. The price of water will go up, the question is by how much. What if the cost to water that grass is $400/month or more?

[seattle-relo]

The water shortage in California, and especially Southern California, is real. About 80%-90% of San Diego water comes from either the Colorado River basin or from Northern California (State Water Project). Due to the drought in the Colorado River basin San Diego had to obtain about 78% of its water from the State Water Project. However, a judicial ruling last year determined that due to impacts on the endangered Delta smelt the current pumping of water from Northern California to Southern California must be dramatically reduced, or possibly cease.

Some links on this issue:
http://www.calwatercrisis.org/problem.htm
http://voiceofsandiego.org/articles/2007/04/30/news/01water043007.txt

Desalination is a possibility for the future, but the cost of the treatment process is still substantially higher than other available options. It will also take time to build the plants, so expect at least five years before a plant can be designed, permitted and constructed. If desalination becomes the only option you can expect that water prices will substantially increase until that technology becomes further refined.

If water use isn’t reduced in the near term then San Diego will be forced to purchase water from other sources, such as Imperial County, that has rights to the limited supply from the Colorado River. However, San Diego will be competing with other communities in Southern California that are in the same water shortage situation. The price of water will go up, the question is by how much. What if the cost to water that grass is $400/month or more?

[seattle-relo]

The water shortage in California, and especially Southern California, is real. About 80%-90% of San Diego water comes from either the Colorado River basin or from Northern California (State Water Project). Due to the drought in the Colorado River basin San Diego had to obtain about 78% of its water from the State Water Project. However, a judicial ruling last year determined that due to impacts on the endangered Delta smelt the current pumping of water from Northern California to Southern California must be dramatically reduced, or possibly cease.

Some links on this issue:
http://www.calwatercrisis.org/problem.htm
http://voiceofsandiego.org/articles/2007/04/30/news/01water043007.txt

Desalination is a possibility for the future, but the cost of the treatment process is still substantially higher than other available options. It will also take time to build the plants, so expect at least five years before a plant can be designed, permitted and constructed. If desalination becomes the only option you can expect that water prices will substantially increase until that technology becomes further refined.

If water use isn’t reduced in the near term then San Diego will be forced to purchase water from other sources, such as Imperial County, that has rights to the limited supply from the Colorado River. However, San Diego will be competing with other communities in Southern California that are in the same water shortage situation. The price of water will go up, the question is by how much. What if the cost to water that grass is $400/month or more?

[Author]

Posts