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May 18, 2007 at 11:59 AM #9118May 18, 2007 at 7:24 PM #53750Cow_tippingParticipant
They should start a new minority support program and open it to whites only (OK OK black people too). but then the majority will be hispanic and will screw them over before that program comes to force.
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Cow_tipping.May 18, 2007 at 7:24 PM #53761Cow_tippingParticipantThey should start a new minority support program and open it to whites only (OK OK black people too). but then the majority will be hispanic and will screw them over before that program comes to force.
Cool.
Cow_tipping.May 18, 2007 at 9:39 PM #53758CoronitaParticipantJoke:
What does U.C.L.A. stand for?
University of Caucasians Lost to Asians.
Since we’re talking about quotas. Let’s drop the asian quotas from colleges. You want to talk about discrimination, play both fields in terms of fairness.
May 18, 2007 at 9:39 PM #53769CoronitaParticipantJoke:
What does U.C.L.A. stand for?
University of Caucasians Lost to Asians.
Since we’re talking about quotas. Let’s drop the asian quotas from colleges. You want to talk about discrimination, play both fields in terms of fairness.
May 19, 2007 at 3:17 PM #53864nlaParticipantHow about USC?
University of Spoiled Chinese. j/k
May 19, 2007 at 3:17 PM #53875nlaParticipantHow about USC?
University of Spoiled Chinese. j/k
May 19, 2007 at 8:02 PM #53886anParticipantI always thought USC = University of Spoiled Children :-). But UCI = University of Chinese Immigrants :-).
May 19, 2007 at 8:02 PM #53897anParticipantI always thought USC = University of Spoiled Children :-). But UCI = University of Chinese Immigrants :-).
May 19, 2007 at 8:44 PM #53888AnonymousGuestOver 50% of the engineering students at UC Irvine are foreigners. Are Americans losing seats to these folks or are we just not applying? If American’s with 96% GREs are losing seats to foreigners with 99% GREs, something aint right. I believe the real answer is that Americans just aren’t applying, and that is an even bigger shame.
May 19, 2007 at 8:44 PM #53899AnonymousGuestOver 50% of the engineering students at UC Irvine are foreigners. Are Americans losing seats to these folks or are we just not applying? If American’s with 96% GREs are losing seats to foreigners with 99% GREs, something aint right. I believe the real answer is that Americans just aren’t applying, and that is an even bigger shame.
May 20, 2007 at 6:15 AM #53906Cow_tippingParticipantAmericans study art and other subjects that seem to favor an easy sailing or somehting they “Like”. Injuns and asians in general study what will get them employed. Or they study what their parents tell them to.
Face it, engineering and physics and math (building blocks of how the world works) isn’t something you can party all night and still manage to pass the next day.
There is no quota for foreigners. Most Graduate students in any US engineering program got there because of their ability to learn and their willingness to teach under graduates. The schools pay foreign grad students to come work/study there. There are a million restrictions (like having to work in the department you are studying in, and minimum number of credits you need to take per semester and what not) and yet its over run by immigrants.
This trend of “studying what you like” is as cute as the dodo bird. Soon it will bring down the whole country as we lose ground to every other nation on earth. I am talking this as a father of a 4 year old who I dont believe will ever get the education he needs in high school to work his way through an engineering program if things dont change. I studied math and physics and chemistry and biology and every damn thing under the sun, liked it, didn’t have a choice and I had to keep at it inspite of failing at it if I wanted to have a roof over my head and food to eat (OK OK not that bad) but what I wasn’t realising was that, I was failing at a higher and higher level. Then I realised, I have a 50% success rate. Then much much later I realised they were teaching me 400% of what I needed to live in the world. I studied Civil engineering and now work as a software engineer. Case closed. Less than 25% of my time in Under grad was spent doing Computer science. More than enough to make a difference in your life.
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Cow_tipping.May 20, 2007 at 6:15 AM #53917Cow_tippingParticipantAmericans study art and other subjects that seem to favor an easy sailing or somehting they “Like”. Injuns and asians in general study what will get them employed. Or they study what their parents tell them to.
Face it, engineering and physics and math (building blocks of how the world works) isn’t something you can party all night and still manage to pass the next day.
There is no quota for foreigners. Most Graduate students in any US engineering program got there because of their ability to learn and their willingness to teach under graduates. The schools pay foreign grad students to come work/study there. There are a million restrictions (like having to work in the department you are studying in, and minimum number of credits you need to take per semester and what not) and yet its over run by immigrants.
This trend of “studying what you like” is as cute as the dodo bird. Soon it will bring down the whole country as we lose ground to every other nation on earth. I am talking this as a father of a 4 year old who I dont believe will ever get the education he needs in high school to work his way through an engineering program if things dont change. I studied math and physics and chemistry and biology and every damn thing under the sun, liked it, didn’t have a choice and I had to keep at it inspite of failing at it if I wanted to have a roof over my head and food to eat (OK OK not that bad) but what I wasn’t realising was that, I was failing at a higher and higher level. Then I realised, I have a 50% success rate. Then much much later I realised they were teaching me 400% of what I needed to live in the world. I studied Civil engineering and now work as a software engineer. Case closed. Less than 25% of my time in Under grad was spent doing Computer science. More than enough to make a difference in your life.
Cool.
Cow_tipping.May 21, 2007 at 12:52 AM #54030forsale_2007ParticipantI’ll tell you what I found interesting…..When I was in high school (a long long time ago, in a galaxy not far away)….I recall the irony of my Senior Advanced Placement English class….70% of the class were Asians…The overall Asian population in the school was 25%….The second irony was that I was actually in the AP English class. My engrish is horrific, and yet somehow I did ok in that class…
I won’t even talk about the Calc and Physics classes…
Actually in college, my engineering classes consisted mostly of (1)really smart immigrants (asians/indians/russians) or (2) intellectually smart 2nd gen asians but practically stupid..because…the “really smart” 2nd generation asians figured out that is was much better to spend the same time working to be a lawyer or investment banker. Yeah, I fell into the #2 category….
The thing I noticed growing up is that several Americans simply didn’t seem to care too much about education, which I thought was “odd”.
And the thing that drives me up the wall is how bad some people are at math.. I recall being at a store, and the cash register was down. The clerk couldn’t figure out how much 10% off something was, and went searching for a calculator….And when I told that person, the clerk asked me how I figured it out so quickly…..Ok, I can’t figure out sqrt’s in my head like my wife from overseas can. But come on, 10%????? Don’t believe me? Watch that TV show “Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader?” and see at some of the ridiculously simple math questions that are asked, and see how people can’t answer those questions….
May 21, 2007 at 12:52 AM #54041forsale_2007ParticipantI’ll tell you what I found interesting…..When I was in high school (a long long time ago, in a galaxy not far away)….I recall the irony of my Senior Advanced Placement English class….70% of the class were Asians…The overall Asian population in the school was 25%….The second irony was that I was actually in the AP English class. My engrish is horrific, and yet somehow I did ok in that class…
I won’t even talk about the Calc and Physics classes…
Actually in college, my engineering classes consisted mostly of (1)really smart immigrants (asians/indians/russians) or (2) intellectually smart 2nd gen asians but practically stupid..because…the “really smart” 2nd generation asians figured out that is was much better to spend the same time working to be a lawyer or investment banker. Yeah, I fell into the #2 category….
The thing I noticed growing up is that several Americans simply didn’t seem to care too much about education, which I thought was “odd”.
And the thing that drives me up the wall is how bad some people are at math.. I recall being at a store, and the cash register was down. The clerk couldn’t figure out how much 10% off something was, and went searching for a calculator….And when I told that person, the clerk asked me how I figured it out so quickly…..Ok, I can’t figure out sqrt’s in my head like my wife from overseas can. But come on, 10%????? Don’t believe me? Watch that TV show “Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader?” and see at some of the ridiculously simple math questions that are asked, and see how people can’t answer those questions….
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