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  • March 1, 2014 at 6:24 PM #20988
    Coronita
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    Welcome to double standards discrimination in California…again….

    I will never send my kids to a UC system school if I can donate my way into an pedigree ivy league….

    If you’re asian, you better be signing these damn petitions…..

    Told ya. I wasn’t kidding about changing my kids last name before entering college…

    Pretty fucked up….

    http://www.change.org/petitions/california-state-assembly-vote-no-to-sca-5-3

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/californias-sca-5-against-equal-protection-clause-14th-amendment-us-constitution/TlHCfZJY


    http://english.cri.cn/6966/2014/02/22/53s814212.htm

    Chinese Americans in the U.S. State of California have started petitions for the veto of a state senate bill which will restrict Asians in school admission and employment.

    On Jan. 30, California Senate passed SCA-5, a legislation that would repeal portions of California Proposition 209 and allow the state to use race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin as a consideration for accepting students or hiring employees.

    The bill was introduced by State Senator Ed Hernandez who claimed that fewer under-represented minority students are admitted in state universities as a result of Proposition 209.

    A petition has started at the White House website which says that California’s SCA-5 is against the “equal protection” clause of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

    The petition needs 100,000 signatures by March 18 to make the White House take any action. Asian American organizations are encouraging Asians to sign it as a way to voice concerns of millions of Asians in the United States.

    Another petition at the http://www.change.org website has started at the state level, calling for the California State Assembly to veto the bill.

    If the bill passes the State Assembly, it could be an issue for Californian voters to decide in the coming election.

    Xudong Sun, president of American Anhui Association of Scholars and Students, told Xinhua that this legislation is racial and is a serious discrimination against Asian Americans.

    He said right now at the University of California and state universities, Asian students account for 36 percent, but Bill SCA-5 would restrict Asians to 13 percent.

    He said under-represented minority groups, like African Americans and Hispanics need protection, but such protection should not be made at the expense of Asian Americans.

    March 1, 2014 at 6:30 PM #771333
    Coronita
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    http://capoliticalnews.com/2014/02/02/most-racist-bill-in-california-history-sca-5-by-democrat-senator-hernandez-forces-racism-as-criteria-to-entrance-to-uc-schools-limit-womens-enrollment-as-well/

    “But go look at the official stats of the demographics of 2013 incoming UC freshman:
    http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2013/fall_2013_admissions_table3.pdf (end of the table)

    So, what’s the percentage of incoming freshmen who are white (INCLUDING “other”)? 28.1% — well BELOW the percentage of whites in California (42.3%). And BTW, note that this table shows that the percentage of the selectively designated “oppressed” minority admissions is NOT shrinking — it’s remarkably level. The drop they ballyhoo is the ending in 1996 of the disastrous and discriminatory quota system that existed before we passed Prop 209 to make such discrimination illegal.

    This bill is not about countering white privilege. It’s about setting up DE FACTO quotas for ASIANS — which constitute a (supposedly evil) disproportionately high 36% of admissions vs. 14.9% of the CA population. Apparently these Asian kids “act white” FAR better than even WHITE kids act white!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California”

    March 1, 2014 at 6:51 PM #771334
    SK in CV
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    As a non-Asian that had 2 kids attend UC, I entirely agree with you. Petition signed.

    March 1, 2014 at 6:53 PM #771335
    spdrun
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    Signed, not sure how much my signature carries as a non-resident, though.

    As with anything — may the best candidate win. Quotas are a disgusting and wrong idea. I might support some leeway based on economic background, but that’s about it.

    Good thing about CA law is that even if SCA-5 passes both houses and isn’t vetoed by Moonbat Brown, it still needs to pass a popular referendum.

    March 1, 2014 at 7:07 PM #771336
    SD Realtor
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    I agree FLU. This is totally f’d up. Be a good parent, teach your kids to accel academically but because of your race, they may not be able to go to these schools.

    Freeking disgusting.

    March 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM #771342
    Coronita
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    Come on. How hard is 100k signatures…

    March 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM #771343
    sjk
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    I sign it…..and I’m not Asian.(european ancestry)This is so wrong,it state sponsored racism.

    Regards,

    March 1, 2014 at 11:02 PM #771348
    paramount
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    [quote=SD Realtor]I agree FLU. This is totally f’d up. Be a good parent, teach your kids to accel academically but because of your race, they may not be able to go to these schools.

    Freeking disgusting.[/quote]

    It is disgusting, and has been happening to white kids for quite some time now.

    Welcome to the club.

    March 1, 2014 at 11:51 PM #771351
    Coronita
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    Folks, if you find this bill disgusting, please pass it along to others that would find it equally disgusting…

    It needs to be stopped at all cost…

    March 1, 2014 at 11:53 PM #771349
    Coronita
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    [quote=paramount][quote=SD Realtor]I agree FLU. This is totally f’d up. Be a good parent, teach your kids to accel academically but because of your race, they may not be able to go to these schools.

    Freeking disgusting.[/quote]

    It is disgusting, and has been happening to white kids for quite some time now.

    Welcome to the club.[/quote]

    Paramount. It’s been happening to asian kids for along time even 20+ years ago…Where have you been?

    It’s much WORSE than that..Because on top of the state and the universities sanctioned racism/discrimination, in the past, there has been quite a bit that were a proponent of quotas specifically against asians because there was “too many of them” . And there’s been many many attempts even in the public schools to try to redraw district lines to rebalance asians across other lower performing schools, to make the other schools in the distrct look better…Just follow what went on in the Cupertino, CA schools..or in the Mission San Jose /Fremont District….

    It’s just politicians and champions of “equality” have always vehemently denied the double standards..
    I think I mentioned this a few times on this blog too, of which a few have also vehemently denied… Well, I guess the cat IS out of the bag now…
    So people now can see how truly disgusting things are that some of us knew all along…..

    Prop 209 was a step in the right direction.. Unfortunately, I guess SCA-5 sort of undo’s everything related to prop 209……

    Things are especially going to be bad for asian american kids because, I’m pretty sure they’ll lump “asians” both ones here and the ones abroad into that quota… Guess which ones the universities will be selecting.. Yup, the ones that will be paying the full, out of state tuitions….

    As a suggestion for asian parents that want their kids to go to a UC school, perhaps the trick is (in addition to changing the last name temporarily), buy a house out of state and actually apply for admission as an out of state resident that will pay for the full tuition.. Just kidding… sort of….

    It’s things like this I wish I had $20+million “fuck you” net worth that my kid would be able to leverage….Might not be “fair” in terms of wealth inequality, but neither is this shit…

    March 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM #771352
    an
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    [quote=flu]As a suggestion for asian parents that want their kids to go to a UC school, perhaps the trick is (in addition to changing the last name temporarily), buy a house out of state and actually apply for admission as an out of state resident that will pay for the full tuition.. Just kidding… sort of..[/quote]flu, I totally agree with you about the name thing. Which is why, if you look at my kids’ names on an application, you’d think they have German decent :-).

    But if you’re going to change their name temporarily, it might make a bigger effect if you name them something like Jamal or Jermaine or Monique or Keyshia.

    March 2, 2014 at 12:12 AM #771353
    Coronita
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    [quote=AN][quote=flu]As a suggestion for asian parents that want their kids to go to a UC school, perhaps the trick is (in addition to changing the last name temporarily), buy a house out of state and actually apply for admission as an out of state resident that will pay for the full tuition.. Just kidding… sort of..[/quote]flu, I totally agree with you about the name thing. Which is why, if you look at my kids’ names on an application, you’d think they have German decent :-).

    But if you’re going to change their name temporarily, it might make a bigger effect if you name them something like Jamal or Jermaine or Monique or Keyshia.[/quote]

    I think in honor of this bill, I’ll change my kid’s last name to Hernandez, just to make a mockery of this ridiculous “law”….

    Please sign the petition, and get your significant other and all of your family members and relatives to sign…

    March 2, 2014 at 12:35 AM #771354
    an
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    [quote=flu][quote=AN][quote=flu]As a suggestion for asian parents that want their kids to go to a UC school, perhaps the trick is (in addition to changing the last name temporarily), buy a house out of state and actually apply for admission as an out of state resident that will pay for the full tuition.. Just kidding… sort of..[/quote]flu, I totally agree with you about the name thing. Which is why, if you look at my kids’ names on an application, you’d think they have German decent :-).

    But if you’re going to change their name temporarily, it might make a bigger effect if you name them something like Jamal or Jermaine or Monique or Keyshia.[/quote]

    I think in honor of this bill, I’ll change my kid’s last name to Hernandez, just to make a mockery of this ridiculous “law”….

    Please sign the petition, and get your significant other and all of your family members and relatives to sign…[/quote]I wonder if on the application, you check the Hispanic box. Would they be able to tell? Maybe that’s one way around it. You can very well have a Chinese dad and a Mexican mom and you just happen to identify yourself more with your Hispanic heritage. That way, you don’t have to go through the hassle of changing your name :-).

    March 2, 2014 at 7:04 AM #771358
    scaredyclassic
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    obviously, you wouldnt want to commit fraud or get your kid involved in fraud. however. i’m looking at the actual question on the aid application.

    Question 2. Please select the racial category or categories with which you most closely identify by placing an “X” in the appropriate box. Check as many as apply.

    the questionasks about “having origins” in a particular location. So, black is having origins in any of th eblack racial groups of Africa.

    Technically, I think, we all have origins in Africa. Need to check the archaeological record again…but isn’t that the cradle of mankind? So technically, i don’t think it would be fraud to “identify” as having origins there.
    the question doesn’t specify a certain percentage, so 50% african, or 1/5,000,000,000,000 seem to be similarly treated.

    It might be fraud to identify as having origins in Asia say if you didn’t have a connection there…

    butchered cut and copy version of usaid question..

    RACIAL CATEGORY (Check as many as apply)
    DEFINITION OF CATEGORY
    U American Indian or Alaska Native U Asian U Black or African American U Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander U White
    A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America), and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam. A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands. A person having

    March 2, 2014 at 7:05 AM #771359
    scaredyclassic
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    one of the most important things you learn in law school is to read the question very carefully…

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