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Participant[quote=EconProf]A couple of factors limit how much water savings this could really achieve:
1. San Diego can go six months without a drop of rain (as your comment suggests), so this would be of no help during those months–the very months in summer when your lawn needs the most water.
2. During our rainy winter months, some people can get away with turning off their lawn sprinklers entirely, so your plan would yeild no savings for those periods.
Finally, leveling a lawn is a HUGE amount of work. And do you have a place for the extra soil?[/quote]In the summer (and fall and spring) is when I would get the benefit. Because there would be no runoff from the sprinklers. Normally, a lot of the sprinkler water runs off the grade and down the drain. With my plan, it would all soak directly into the grass, and there would be no water wasted to runoff.
The extra soil is not a problem.
zk
ParticipantI lived in Daytona for a couple years in the early ’80s. It’s definitely not California. The culture is completely different. The weather is different.
The Daytona 500 is the high culture event of the year there. It’s not as redneck in Daytona as it is 15 miles inland from Daytona (you might hear banjo music out there). But everything there is a few notches in that direction (as compared to California). And it’s just generally quite a bit scruffier there than it is out here. Main Street (when I was there, anyway) was populated with scruffy drug addicts and strippers. The oyster bars were some loud, shit-kicking places. And the low-rent bars had low tooth counts and a violent vibe.
Spring break is a massive party. But it’s all kids and, at my age, it would be more of a pain in the neck than anything else.
It’s obviously quite humid there, but I liked the weather. Lots of thunderstorms in the summer. Nice, warm nights. Great water-skiing weather and lots of lakes to ski on (watch out for alligators and water moccasins).
The beach is fantastic. You can drive on parts of the beach and park right there on the sand (back then the whole beach was driveable; I think it’s more restricted now). The water is warm. The waves aren’t usually as big, but they’re body-surfable.
I don’t remember the bugs being as bad as everybody says. Except the cockroaches. Almost everybody had them and they were extremely difficult to completely eliminate. The mosquitoes were only really bad in the swampy parts.
It’s a culture shock from California, and I wouldn’t live there again. But it’s not all that bad.
zk
Participant[quote=no_such_reality]Because they can’t see past the brainwashing of soundbites they’re getting. That goes both ways and the media makes it worse by dumbing it down.
Or they’re fortunate, have had good health and no serious medical conditions and haven’t blundered into the underbelly of our previous insurance madness.[/quote]
[quote=zk][quote=no_such_reality]
They’ve done everything but just capitulate to what Harry and Barack want.You don’t hear that in the media though and they’re getting the blame.
And they’re focused on the wrong discussion. The right discussion is the debt.
The rule of any show down is picking your fight, they’ve done a horrible job of picking the right fight. Frankly, IMHO, they should give Obama everything he wants, and tie ribbon around the Democrats in the 2014 election when everything is still the same.[/quote]
Fascinating. What, exactly, does “everything but just capitulate to what Harry and Barack want” consist of?[/quote]
Unless you can answer that question, it appears you’re the one who’s been brainwashed.
zk
ParticipantBummer about the Bimmer.
Sometimes you have to cut your losses and move on.
A Camry might be more reliable than a BMW, but other than that…
I’d say if you can afford (and your priority is to spend money on) a nice car, get yourself a Lexus. I think Lexuses are great. Smooth, powerful, reliable, comfortable, quiet. They have some models that compare with a BMW 3 series. A friend has a Lexus IS, and he loves it. flu says he’s not a fan of the Lexus IS. So, being a fellow (maybe former) BMW fan, you might not be either. But then again, you might. And if you decide you like it, you’ll have a car you like, and it will most likely be somewhat more reliable than your BMW (and less expensive to repair).
Good luck.
October 7, 2013 at 7:02 PM in reply to: OT: Justice for Alexian Lien: victim of mob beating… #766503zk
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Participant[quote=no_such_reality]
They’ve done everything but just capitulate to what Harry and Barack want.You don’t hear that in the media though and they’re getting the blame.
And they’re focused on the wrong discussion. The right discussion is the debt.
The rule of any show down is picking your fight, they’ve done a horrible job of picking the right fight. Frankly, IMHO, they should give Obama everything he wants, and tie ribbon around the Democrats in the 2014 election when everything is still the same.[/quote]
Fascinating. What, exactly, does “everything but just capitulate to what Harry and Barack want” consist of?
zk
ParticipantI’m curious if anybody (besides Paramount) thinks the republicans are doing the right thing in this situation.
zk
ParticipantMy favorite is Marlin Stutzman:
“We aren’t going to be disrespected. We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is.”
It would seem he would think this is what his constituents want to hear. The sad part is, it probably is.
zk
Participant[quote=SK in CV]
Best tweet of the week:
Can I burn down your house?
No
Just the 2nd floor?
No
Garage?
No
Let’s talk about what I can burn down.
No
YOU AREN’T COMPROMISING!
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/385468973971951616%5B/quote%5D
Very nice. And yet there are people who think this is all the democrats fault for refusing to negotiate.
Check out the quotes from the congresspeople in this article:
Most of them are nonsense. A lot of them are about how the democrats are refusing to negotiate.
They say, “nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
I think you could also say, “no politician ever lost a race underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
October 4, 2013 at 10:40 PM in reply to: OT: Justice for Alexian Lien: victim of mob beating… #766312zk
Participant[quote=AN][quote=zk][quote=AN]
FYI, you yourself, just lump EVERYONE who are not a liberal into a nut job camp. [/quote]
You’ll have to show me where I did that. I’m quite sure you won’t be able to.[/quote]
Here you go:
[quote=zk]SK, you wouldn’t know what flu is talking about unless you, too had been brainwashed by the right-wing noise machine.[/quote]
Only brainwashed by right-wing noise machine would understand him. I’m not brainwashed by the right wing noise machine. But I’m probably not as liberal as you. So, since you don’t know what flu is talking about and I do, I must be brainwashed by the right wing noise machine. Brainwashed by the right wing noise machine, IIRC is synonymous to nut job in your book.[/quote]
Error number 1: You left off half my quote. I said, “SK, you wouldn’t know what flu is talking about unless you, too had been brainwashed by the right-wing noise machine. Or at least were familiar with their tactics.”
I knew exactly what flu was talking about, because I’m familiar with the right-wing noise machine’s tactics. Lump run-of-the-mill liberals in with gloria allred and her ilk. Anybody who is a pansy or a crybaby or who plays the “victim” card must be a liberal. Etcetera.Error number 2: You seem to have come to the conclusion that I think that everybody who isn’t a liberal has been brainwashed by the right-wing noise machine. I never said that. I never implied that. I never believed that. I know lots of perfectly reasonable conservatives and middle-of-the-road types who can think for themselves and aren’t brainwashed by the machine.
October 4, 2013 at 9:01 PM in reply to: OT: Justice for Alexian Lien: victim of mob beating… #766303zk
Participant[quote=flu]
Zk, despite what you might think I’m not a wacko conservative. Perhaps my outburst was enraged because I was listening to Gloria’s press release as I was typing this going what the fvck… Again, my apologies for being out of character…I don’t know why I’m taking this one so personal.. I guess it kinda hit way to close to home, because Alex’s life hit so close to my own even though he’s way in new york..
A few months ago, I know I was joking about bullet armor SUVs, and laughed it off as being waco…But these days, I’m not so sure it’s that crazy at all. I don’t like the idea that people think we’re easy targets, both on the street, and in the courtroom.[/quote]
No apology is necessary. I don’t think you’re a wacko, flu. I understand about certain things really hitting home. My wife, as you may remember, is Chinese. My daughter is half Chinese. Sometimes when I hear about violent racism against Asians or when I hear about people who want to keep the white race pure my emotion overwhelms my logic and I really want to hunt the bastards down. The thought of being in Alex’s shoes (hard not to think of it since you relate to him) and your kid being in danger or your kid seeing that happen to you would be enough to rile anybody up. Start getting somebody’s kids involved and anything can happen.
The desire to protect our children is, I think, our strongest instinct. Stronger, even, than our survival instinct.
October 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM in reply to: OT: Justice for Alexian Lien: victim of mob beating… #766300zk
Participant[quote=AN]
FYI, you yourself, just lump EVERYONE who are not a liberal into a nut job camp. [/quote]
You’ll have to show me where I did that. I’m quite sure you won’t be able to.
[quote=flu]
No, when it comes to the issue of crime and criminals, I pretty much just hate extreme liberals.
Because they are wussies that like to play like everything plays like they belong in a kindergarden class…
When it comes to women’s rights, gay rights, and religion (or the choice of being an atheist), I pretty much hate the nutjob extreme conservatives…
And I’m on the fence on who I hate when it comes to fiscal policy these days. I’ll let you know once the government shutdown is over. Though the tea party are sure in the lead of pissing me off.
you know why when it comes to crime, Bloomberg isn’t bad in NY? Because he thinks more like a conservative leaning person when it comes to crime handling…Because he gets that dealing with NYC crime is a major PITA…
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Ok, before it was “I hate liberals with a passion,” and now it’s “I hate extreme liberals.”First, that’s a pretty big difference. Like the difference between your average conservative and todd akin. Second, the portrayal of basically all “liberals” as extreme liberals and the generation of the perception that extreme liberals are very common are creations of the right-wing noise machine. Extreme liberals are, I would say, quite rare. The noise machine jumps all over gloria allred and jesse jackson and al sharpton. And rightly so; these people are fools. But they portray all liberals as sharing values with these people. That’s just not the case. Any more than it’s the case that your average conservative shares values with todd akin.
Bloomberg is tough on crime? Great. So are a lot of people you might call liberals. Here’s another creation of the noise machine: Atheist? For gay marriage? For financial oversight? LIBERAL! He’s got one of the traits! He’s a liberal! They don’t come out and say “he’s got one of the traits; he’s a liberal.” They just call him a liberal. And they assume he’s liberal on all issues and that he shares values with al sharpton and that he’s an extreme liberal. I’m an atheist (or as close as you can get to one without being certain) who is for gay marriage and for financial oversight. But I’m also for tough penalties for serious crimes, and against affirmative action, multiculturalism and “political correctness.” So am I a liberal or not? The noise machine, if they heard just one of my “liberal” views, would have you believe I am. Example: They might say, regarding a rally, for instance, against prop 8, “these liberals…” So anybody who is against prop 8 is a liberal. And then they jump to sharpton or allred or jackson and start spouting about their views and how liberals are this way or think that way. So they lump the protesters against prop 8 with extreme liberals. They’re not even subtle about it. But people respond to it. And this is how it manifests. One douchebag hires gloria allred because he’s a douchebag, and suddenly people are yelling, “I hate liberals.” As if all liberals are like this one douchebag. When in fact almost none of them are. When, in fact, we don’t even know if this one douchebag is a liberal. He could be a limbaugh junkie for all we know.[quote=flu]
Let’s put this in perspective. If right now the mob biker were all white, and the SUV driver was black? What do you think *maybe* just *maybe* the same so called civic leaders might view things differently? Do you think CNN would be running an article titled “who’s the real victim in this attack?”
Why is it different? [/quote]You are of course correct. While I disagree generally with the portrayal of the media as “liberal,” I agree that they are terrified of calling anything that has to do with race as it really is. They’ll play that one safe every time. Which is quite pathetic.
[quote=SK in CV]
Flu, I understand your frustration. The only place I think you’re wrong is in thinking these thugs are getting much support from liberals. They can claim they’re victims all they want. Anyone can make that claim. They’re not getting any sympathy from any liberals that I can find. [/quote]
Exactly. The noise machine would have you believe that liberals in general agree with whatever gloria allred thinks. It just isn’t true.
[quote=flu]
I think that extreme liberals that can portray criminals as “victims” with “rights” above other decent humans are wackos…
I think that extreme liberals that want to paralyze our judicial system on technicalities for “show” to the point that criminals have an advantage over your average law abiding citizen are nutjobs …[/quote]
Sure. To the same extent that todd akin is a wacko. But most liberals don’t feel that way, just like most conservatives don’t share akin’s beliefs on rape.
October 4, 2013 at 4:03 PM in reply to: OT: Justice for Alexian Lien: victim of mob beating… #766261zk
Participant[quote=flu]
I think that extreme liberals that can portray criminals as “victims” with “rights” above other decent humans are wackos…I think that extreme liberals that want to paralyze our judicial system on technicalities for “show” to the point that criminals have an advantage over your average law abiding citizen are nutjobs and only have that viewpoint because they’ve been fortunate enough never to have dealt with reality.
In as much as the nutjob extreme politicians that like to argue that rape really isn’t rape, and that a woman can just shut-er down…[/quote]
So you hate conservatives and liberals equally?
October 4, 2013 at 4:02 PM in reply to: OT: Justice for Alexian Lien: victim of mob beating… #766260zk
Participant[quote=AN][quote=zk]I was making a point, AN. Sure, you understand him. But do you agree with him? Do you fvcking hate liberals with a passion? Even if you don’t know them? Even if they might not even be liberals but merely have traits that flu and the other brainwashed assume only liberals possess?[/quote]You said nothing about agreeing. You said only nut jobs right wing lemmings will understand him. No, I don’t hate anything I don’t know. Be it right or left wingers. Everyone has their own opinion. Do I have to agree with everyone in order for me to see where they’re coming from? Are you telling me you don’t hate those Tea Party nut job with a passion w/out even knowing them?[/quote]
Yes, I’m telling you that I don’t hate those Tea Party nut jobs with a passion w/out even knowing them. I think they ought not to be reelected. I think their plans and their ideas are bad. I don’t think they have much foresight. I’ll admit I’m angry that they’re on the path to ruining our country. But I don’t hate them.
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