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The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 is a bill sponsored by Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA)[1][2][3] in the 110th United States Congress. Its stated purpose is to deal with “homegrown terrorism and violent radicalization”[4] by establishing a national commission, establishing a center for study, and cooperating with other nations.

The bill defines some terms including “violent radicalization,” “homegrown terrorism,” and “ideologically based violence,”[8] which have provoked controversy from some quarters. [9][10][11][12]

So are you a terrorist/or radicalized if you do not like the way things are going, if you feel that the voice of the average citizen has been marginalized, if you feel that there are what seem like coordinated efforts to disenfranchise the existing voters to the effect of keeping the existing power base in power? This is getting to be a very slippery slope.

The government has to remember that it is to respond to and for the service of the citizenry (as a whole and not for any one specific to the detriment of another specific group) and not the other way around. The real purpose of the 1st amendment is to allow the citizenry to know what their government is doing, free from government tampering. The real purpose of the 2nd amendment is to allow the people to take their government back should it decide to ‘run itself’ to the benefit of itself and the detriment of its citizens. It has to be remembered that the colonists were just fresh from/in the process of throwing off the bonds of Imperial England and were quite aware of why they were able to. They wanted the citizens of America to repeat the process if the situation was ever repeated.

I am not the tinfoil hat type: but remember that the government ‘finds the facts’ against you in a criminal case (prosecution), and runs the judicial system that judges you.. all with your dollars. No one but you pays to defend you against those charges (except in the case of public defenders.. with can also be a problematic because the relation with the prosecutors office can be nepotistic). There is no real cost for them to prosecute an unsubstantiated case against you(with your dollars).. but there is definitely a cost to you, to defend yourself against such a case.

1st and 2nd amendments are the bulwarks against such systematic abuse. Hopefully we never get to the state where we really need to use what the 2nd amendment allows us. I would really hate to see that day. Even worse would be to give up the guarantees of the 2nd amendment in the name of perceived safety.. only to need its guarantee later. (Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. – Benjamin Franklin)

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The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 is a bill sponsored by Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA)[1][2][3] in the 110th United States Congress. Its stated purpose is to deal with “homegrown terrorism and violent radicalization”[4] by establishing a national commission, establishing a center for study, and cooperating with other nations.

The bill defines some terms including “violent radicalization,” “homegrown terrorism,” and “ideologically based violence,”[8] which have provoked controversy from some quarters. [9][10][11][12]

So are you a terrorist/or radicalized if you do not like the way things are going, if you feel that the voice of the average citizen has been marginalized, if you feel that there are what seem like coordinated efforts to disenfranchise the existing voters to the effect of keeping the existing power base in power? This is getting to be a very slippery slope.

The government has to remember that it is to respond to and for the service of the citizenry (as a whole and not for any one specific to the detriment of another specific group) and not the other way around. The real purpose of the 1st amendment is to allow the citizenry to know what their government is doing, free from government tampering. The real purpose of the 2nd amendment is to allow the people to take their government back should it decide to ‘run itself’ to the benefit of itself and the detriment of its citizens. It has to be remembered that the colonists were just fresh from/in the process of throwing off the bonds of Imperial England and were quite aware of why they were able to. They wanted the citizens of America to repeat the process if the situation was ever repeated.

I am not the tinfoil hat type: but remember that the government ‘finds the facts’ against you in a criminal case (prosecution), and runs the judicial system that judges you.. all with your dollars. No one but you pays to defend you against those charges (except in the case of public defenders.. with can also be a problematic because the relation with the prosecutors office can be nepotistic). There is no real cost for them to prosecute an unsubstantiated case against you(with your dollars).. but there is definitely a cost to you, to defend yourself against such a case.

1st and 2nd amendments are the bulwarks against such systematic abuse. Hopefully we never get to the state where we really need to use what the 2nd amendment allows us. I would really hate to see that day. Even worse would be to give up the guarantees of the 2nd amendment in the name of perceived safety.. only to need its guarantee later. (Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. – Benjamin Franklin)

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The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 is a bill sponsored by Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA)[1][2][3] in the 110th United States Congress. Its stated purpose is to deal with “homegrown terrorism and violent radicalization”[4] by establishing a national commission, establishing a center for study, and cooperating with other nations.

The bill defines some terms including “violent radicalization,” “homegrown terrorism,” and “ideologically based violence,”[8] which have provoked controversy from some quarters. [9][10][11][12]

So are you a terrorist/or radicalized if you do not like the way things are going, if you feel that the voice of the average citizen has been marginalized, if you feel that there are what seem like coordinated efforts to disenfranchise the existing voters to the effect of keeping the existing power base in power? This is getting to be a very slippery slope.

The government has to remember that it is to respond to and for the service of the citizenry (as a whole and not for any one specific to the detriment of another specific group) and not the other way around. The real purpose of the 1st amendment is to allow the citizenry to know what their government is doing, free from government tampering. The real purpose of the 2nd amendment is to allow the people to take their government back should it decide to ‘run itself’ to the benefit of itself and the detriment of its citizens. It has to be remembered that the colonists were just fresh from/in the process of throwing off the bonds of Imperial England and were quite aware of why they were able to. They wanted the citizens of America to repeat the process if the situation was ever repeated.

I am not the tinfoil hat type: but remember that the government ‘finds the facts’ against you in a criminal case (prosecution), and runs the judicial system that judges you.. all with your dollars. No one but you pays to defend you against those charges (except in the case of public defenders.. with can also be a problematic because the relation with the prosecutors office can be nepotistic). There is no real cost for them to prosecute an unsubstantiated case against you(with your dollars).. but there is definitely a cost to you, to defend yourself against such a case.

1st and 2nd amendments are the bulwarks against such systematic abuse. Hopefully we never get to the state where we really need to use what the 2nd amendment allows us. I would really hate to see that day. Even worse would be to give up the guarantees of the 2nd amendment in the name of perceived safety.. only to need its guarantee later. (Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. – Benjamin Franklin)

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This might be an idea for when you have more time. Take a ‘mailboat’ ride on the Rogue River in Oregon. There are several whitewater sections that are navigated on the river and trips go up to 100 miles in round trip.

http://www.roguerivertrips.info/activities/Rogue_River_Tour_Boat_Rides.asp

This is the company I remember taking the ride from when I was much younger (during mid 1970’s).

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vid

Not the cheapest, but might be interesting and there is beautiful scenery along the way. When I went, they were using special boats, low draft when on plane (about 3″), 3 large Chrysler engines driving 3 Jacuzzi jet drives. I was able to sit/stand in the back with the driver and learned a lot about navigating the river from him.. but that was before all the sue-happy-lawyer types came into being. I would try to get the front right or left two seats in the front two rows as a preference.. or if not that, the seats along the sides (that is if you don’t mind possibly getting wet – bring raincoat/slicker). If you bring a camera, have some sort of water-resistant/proof container for it if you go on the whitewater sections.

Crater lake, Klamath river etc are not to far away either.

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This might be an idea for when you have more time. Take a ‘mailboat’ ride on the Rogue River in Oregon. There are several whitewater sections that are navigated on the river and trips go up to 100 miles in round trip.

http://www.roguerivertrips.info/activities/Rogue_River_Tour_Boat_Rides.asp

This is the company I remember taking the ride from when I was much younger (during mid 1970’s).

Home

vid

Not the cheapest, but might be interesting and there is beautiful scenery along the way. When I went, they were using special boats, low draft when on plane (about 3″), 3 large Chrysler engines driving 3 Jacuzzi jet drives. I was able to sit/stand in the back with the driver and learned a lot about navigating the river from him.. but that was before all the sue-happy-lawyer types came into being. I would try to get the front right or left two seats in the front two rows as a preference.. or if not that, the seats along the sides (that is if you don’t mind possibly getting wet – bring raincoat/slicker). If you bring a camera, have some sort of water-resistant/proof container for it if you go on the whitewater sections.

Crater lake, Klamath river etc are not to far away either.

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This might be an idea for when you have more time. Take a ‘mailboat’ ride on the Rogue River in Oregon. There are several whitewater sections that are navigated on the river and trips go up to 100 miles in round trip.

http://www.roguerivertrips.info/activities/Rogue_River_Tour_Boat_Rides.asp

This is the company I remember taking the ride from when I was much younger (during mid 1970’s).

Home

vid

Not the cheapest, but might be interesting and there is beautiful scenery along the way. When I went, they were using special boats, low draft when on plane (about 3″), 3 large Chrysler engines driving 3 Jacuzzi jet drives. I was able to sit/stand in the back with the driver and learned a lot about navigating the river from him.. but that was before all the sue-happy-lawyer types came into being. I would try to get the front right or left two seats in the front two rows as a preference.. or if not that, the seats along the sides (that is if you don’t mind possibly getting wet – bring raincoat/slicker). If you bring a camera, have some sort of water-resistant/proof container for it if you go on the whitewater sections.

Crater lake, Klamath river etc are not to far away either.

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This might be an idea for when you have more time. Take a ‘mailboat’ ride on the Rogue River in Oregon. There are several whitewater sections that are navigated on the river and trips go up to 100 miles in round trip.

http://www.roguerivertrips.info/activities/Rogue_River_Tour_Boat_Rides.asp

This is the company I remember taking the ride from when I was much younger (during mid 1970’s).

Home

vid

Not the cheapest, but might be interesting and there is beautiful scenery along the way. When I went, they were using special boats, low draft when on plane (about 3″), 3 large Chrysler engines driving 3 Jacuzzi jet drives. I was able to sit/stand in the back with the driver and learned a lot about navigating the river from him.. but that was before all the sue-happy-lawyer types came into being. I would try to get the front right or left two seats in the front two rows as a preference.. or if not that, the seats along the sides (that is if you don’t mind possibly getting wet – bring raincoat/slicker). If you bring a camera, have some sort of water-resistant/proof container for it if you go on the whitewater sections.

Crater lake, Klamath river etc are not to far away either.

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This might be an idea for when you have more time. Take a ‘mailboat’ ride on the Rogue River in Oregon. There are several whitewater sections that are navigated on the river and trips go up to 100 miles in round trip.

http://www.roguerivertrips.info/activities/Rogue_River_Tour_Boat_Rides.asp

This is the company I remember taking the ride from when I was much younger (during mid 1970’s).

Home

vid

Not the cheapest, but might be interesting and there is beautiful scenery along the way. When I went, they were using special boats, low draft when on plane (about 3″), 3 large Chrysler engines driving 3 Jacuzzi jet drives. I was able to sit/stand in the back with the driver and learned a lot about navigating the river from him.. but that was before all the sue-happy-lawyer types came into being. I would try to get the front right or left two seats in the front two rows as a preference.. or if not that, the seats along the sides (that is if you don’t mind possibly getting wet – bring raincoat/slicker). If you bring a camera, have some sort of water-resistant/proof container for it if you go on the whitewater sections.

Crater lake, Klamath river etc are not to far away either.

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@AN

Try using firefox and download Ad Blocker Plus extension. That will block out any ads you don’t want to see.

I would add the ‘noscript’ plug-in as well. I don’t have the Ad Blocker extension and I don’t get the bouncy adds. You will need to selectively choose which sites get to run Javascript on your machine.. which is an initial hassle.. but it is worth it.. also may cure the ‘text’ issue.

I would not recommend Internet Exploder.. because of its use of ActiveX. ActiveX allows a website to download a piece of binary code (no sandbox) and run it on your machine. This is how things like ‘Gator’ get installed on a person’s machine. Setting IE to signed ActiveX does not really do anything. Just makes sure that M$FT gets their fee for someone creating an ActiveX component.

Yahoo profile is another thing to look at…

@paramount

Strange, when I first read the headline to this thread at first I thought you were talking about Realtor’s…

ROTFLMAO..
you mean as in “she-who-must-not-be-named” and the like?

@Russell
When putting your Email address on a website, I would recommend ‘adorning’ it, kind of like how garysears did it, 2nd post up from your last. Spammers look for Email addresses by using webcrawlers on blogs.

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@AN

Try using firefox and download Ad Blocker Plus extension. That will block out any ads you don’t want to see.

I would add the ‘noscript’ plug-in as well. I don’t have the Ad Blocker extension and I don’t get the bouncy adds. You will need to selectively choose which sites get to run Javascript on your machine.. which is an initial hassle.. but it is worth it.. also may cure the ‘text’ issue.

I would not recommend Internet Exploder.. because of its use of ActiveX. ActiveX allows a website to download a piece of binary code (no sandbox) and run it on your machine. This is how things like ‘Gator’ get installed on a person’s machine. Setting IE to signed ActiveX does not really do anything. Just makes sure that M$FT gets their fee for someone creating an ActiveX component.

Yahoo profile is another thing to look at…

@paramount

Strange, when I first read the headline to this thread at first I thought you were talking about Realtor’s…

ROTFLMAO..
you mean as in “she-who-must-not-be-named” and the like?

@Russell
When putting your Email address on a website, I would recommend ‘adorning’ it, kind of like how garysears did it, 2nd post up from your last. Spammers look for Email addresses by using webcrawlers on blogs.

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@AN

Try using firefox and download Ad Blocker Plus extension. That will block out any ads you don’t want to see.

I would add the ‘noscript’ plug-in as well. I don’t have the Ad Blocker extension and I don’t get the bouncy adds. You will need to selectively choose which sites get to run Javascript on your machine.. which is an initial hassle.. but it is worth it.. also may cure the ‘text’ issue.

I would not recommend Internet Exploder.. because of its use of ActiveX. ActiveX allows a website to download a piece of binary code (no sandbox) and run it on your machine. This is how things like ‘Gator’ get installed on a person’s machine. Setting IE to signed ActiveX does not really do anything. Just makes sure that M$FT gets their fee for someone creating an ActiveX component.

Yahoo profile is another thing to look at…

@paramount

Strange, when I first read the headline to this thread at first I thought you were talking about Realtor’s…

ROTFLMAO..
you mean as in “she-who-must-not-be-named” and the like?

@Russell
When putting your Email address on a website, I would recommend ‘adorning’ it, kind of like how garysears did it, 2nd post up from your last. Spammers look for Email addresses by using webcrawlers on blogs.

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@AN

Try using firefox and download Ad Blocker Plus extension. That will block out any ads you don’t want to see.

I would add the ‘noscript’ plug-in as well. I don’t have the Ad Blocker extension and I don’t get the bouncy adds. You will need to selectively choose which sites get to run Javascript on your machine.. which is an initial hassle.. but it is worth it.. also may cure the ‘text’ issue.

I would not recommend Internet Exploder.. because of its use of ActiveX. ActiveX allows a website to download a piece of binary code (no sandbox) and run it on your machine. This is how things like ‘Gator’ get installed on a person’s machine. Setting IE to signed ActiveX does not really do anything. Just makes sure that M$FT gets their fee for someone creating an ActiveX component.

Yahoo profile is another thing to look at…

@paramount

Strange, when I first read the headline to this thread at first I thought you were talking about Realtor’s…

ROTFLMAO..
you mean as in “she-who-must-not-be-named” and the like?

@Russell
When putting your Email address on a website, I would recommend ‘adorning’ it, kind of like how garysears did it, 2nd post up from your last. Spammers look for Email addresses by using webcrawlers on blogs.

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@AN

Try using firefox and download Ad Blocker Plus extension. That will block out any ads you don’t want to see.

I would add the ‘noscript’ plug-in as well. I don’t have the Ad Blocker extension and I don’t get the bouncy adds. You will need to selectively choose which sites get to run Javascript on your machine.. which is an initial hassle.. but it is worth it.. also may cure the ‘text’ issue.

I would not recommend Internet Exploder.. because of its use of ActiveX. ActiveX allows a website to download a piece of binary code (no sandbox) and run it on your machine. This is how things like ‘Gator’ get installed on a person’s machine. Setting IE to signed ActiveX does not really do anything. Just makes sure that M$FT gets their fee for someone creating an ActiveX component.

Yahoo profile is another thing to look at…

@paramount

Strange, when I first read the headline to this thread at first I thought you were talking about Realtor’s…

ROTFLMAO..
you mean as in “she-who-must-not-be-named” and the like?

@Russell
When putting your Email address on a website, I would recommend ‘adorning’ it, kind of like how garysears did it, 2nd post up from your last. Spammers look for Email addresses by using webcrawlers on blogs.

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“I am no fan of Wagoners, but I have to ask the geniuses behind the bank bailouts: When are you going to ask the TARP and bailout recipients to step down? Ken Lewis being asked to step aside after many years of running BofA ? How about Blankfein? Pandit? And the rest of the TARP recipients?”

Evidently people have a short memory. The TARP was given to both healthy and ill banks at the same time so as to make it less likely that there would be a ‘run on the bank’. This also makes it harder to tell the healthy from the sick.. Because of the restrictions that were added on after the fact, many of the good banks are now trying to pay the money back. As for BofA, they were going to step out of the purchase of Merrill Lynch, but were forced to the alter via a $20Bil shotgun (otherwise BofA would not do the deal – I am amazed about how many people get this one part wrong…. I wonder if BofA now thinks $20Bil was enough to complete it). BofA is looking at starting repayments as early as this April, possibly paying it all back by fy2010/2011…. Can GM/Chrysler do the same?

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“I am no fan of Wagoners, but I have to ask the geniuses behind the bank bailouts: When are you going to ask the TARP and bailout recipients to step down? Ken Lewis being asked to step aside after many years of running BofA ? How about Blankfein? Pandit? And the rest of the TARP recipients?”

Evidently people have a short memory. The TARP was given to both healthy and ill banks at the same time so as to make it less likely that there would be a ‘run on the bank’. This also makes it harder to tell the healthy from the sick.. Because of the restrictions that were added on after the fact, many of the good banks are now trying to pay the money back. As for BofA, they were going to step out of the purchase of Merrill Lynch, but were forced to the alter via a $20Bil shotgun (otherwise BofA would not do the deal – I am amazed about how many people get this one part wrong…. I wonder if BofA now thinks $20Bil was enough to complete it). BofA is looking at starting repayments as early as this April, possibly paying it all back by fy2010/2011…. Can GM/Chrysler do the same?

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