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[quote=5yearwaiter][quote=Zeitgeist]Yes, I have noticed some enticing lower offerings and when I called there were 30 offers on the property. This has been happening for about the past month.[/quote]

Well if they have plenty of offers I don’t understand the logic in lowering the listed price. Does it looks like confusing? What I am suspecious is the next news would be worst with unemployment spread and eventually FED would give up slowly to care more on housing as they need to gear up on how to provide or increase more employment ONLY[/quote]

The logic is that people will go look at a house if the price is within the range… and then they fall in love with it and bid it up. The sellers are gambling that a bidding war will drive the price higher than the listing price.

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[quote=5yearwaiter][quote=Zeitgeist]Yes, I have noticed some enticing lower offerings and when I called there were 30 offers on the property. This has been happening for about the past month.[/quote]

Well if they have plenty of offers I don’t understand the logic in lowering the listed price. Does it looks like confusing? What I am suspecious is the next news would be worst with unemployment spread and eventually FED would give up slowly to care more on housing as they need to gear up on how to provide or increase more employment ONLY[/quote]

The logic is that people will go look at a house if the price is within the range… and then they fall in love with it and bid it up. The sellers are gambling that a bidding war will drive the price higher than the listing price.

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[quote=5yearwaiter][quote=Zeitgeist]Yes, I have noticed some enticing lower offerings and when I called there were 30 offers on the property. This has been happening for about the past month.[/quote]

Well if they have plenty of offers I don’t understand the logic in lowering the listed price. Does it looks like confusing? What I am suspecious is the next news would be worst with unemployment spread and eventually FED would give up slowly to care more on housing as they need to gear up on how to provide or increase more employment ONLY[/quote]

The logic is that people will go look at a house if the price is within the range… and then they fall in love with it and bid it up. The sellers are gambling that a bidding war will drive the price higher than the listing price.

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TG – I love your ratio approach.
(Spoken as a woman who’s overweight but who happens to have a proportionally small waist and big chest.)

As a woman I have a similar ratio for men… shoulders broader than than belly and if you have to wear the belt below the belly – you’re fat.

My dad was famous for saying his waist size was small… because he wore his pants riding lower than his gut.

I also love your point, TG, about the image given to young women by anorexic models.

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TG – I love your ratio approach.
(Spoken as a woman who’s overweight but who happens to have a proportionally small waist and big chest.)

As a woman I have a similar ratio for men… shoulders broader than than belly and if you have to wear the belt below the belly – you’re fat.

My dad was famous for saying his waist size was small… because he wore his pants riding lower than his gut.

I also love your point, TG, about the image given to young women by anorexic models.

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TG – I love your ratio approach.
(Spoken as a woman who’s overweight but who happens to have a proportionally small waist and big chest.)

As a woman I have a similar ratio for men… shoulders broader than than belly and if you have to wear the belt below the belly – you’re fat.

My dad was famous for saying his waist size was small… because he wore his pants riding lower than his gut.

I also love your point, TG, about the image given to young women by anorexic models.

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TG – I love your ratio approach.
(Spoken as a woman who’s overweight but who happens to have a proportionally small waist and big chest.)

As a woman I have a similar ratio for men… shoulders broader than than belly and if you have to wear the belt below the belly – you’re fat.

My dad was famous for saying his waist size was small… because he wore his pants riding lower than his gut.

I also love your point, TG, about the image given to young women by anorexic models.

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TG – I love your ratio approach.
(Spoken as a woman who’s overweight but who happens to have a proportionally small waist and big chest.)

As a woman I have a similar ratio for men… shoulders broader than than belly and if you have to wear the belt below the belly – you’re fat.

My dad was famous for saying his waist size was small… because he wore his pants riding lower than his gut.

I also love your point, TG, about the image given to young women by anorexic models.

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Just a couple of thoughts on your points…

[quote=Sarah G.]
If you actually have any money to invest and if you actually wanted information, wouldn’t the best place to go to be ThunderBlaze itself. Do you realize that here you are getting opinions from “noses”?
[/quote]
When I invest not only do I look at information provided by the company – I look at outside information about the company. I also look at the structure of the company and whether I am comfortable with that structure. Sometimes the structure makes me uncomfortable – so I don’t invest in it. If someone asks my opinion, I’ll give them my opinion – including if I think it’s got inherant risk or is doing things in a way that makes me uncomfortable.

[quote=Sarah G.]
This might be an awesome investment, and then again, it might not be. If it is as presented, it is awsome!
The only way you’ll find out if the investment is as awesome as is presented is to make an investment in it.
[/quote]
If my only means to determine if an investment is “awesome” is to risk money, then I’ll sit on the sidelines. I prefer to do due dilligence before investing. I’m not that unusual.

[quote=Sarah G.]
If it’s bad, you might lose your money, but you’ll make complaints and then the complaints would be available to find. Since no one found anything negative, maybe no one has had any bad experiences with the investment and the investment is legitimate.
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I strongly disagree with this statement. Here’s an example of doing business with a company that did not have any complaints against it.

I hired a contractor who turned out, I learned after the fact, to have a business model of ripping people off. I did my due dilligence – I’d checked his license status, I’d called the references he supplied, I googled him, I checked to see if there were lawsuits filed against him… I checked him out as thoroughly as I could. There were NO dings on his license or complaints against him. It turns out that complaints HAD been filed against him with the state, but the CSLB hadn’t processed them yet. We later filed a very thorough, documented complaint against him and it took a year before it showed on the CSLB website and is still waiting to be prosecuted by the AG’s office.

Just because a business doesn’t have a complaint against it – doesn’t mean it’s legitimate.

Additionally – I have done my best to get complaints agains him. I’ve written complaints against him with Kudzu, ServiceMasters, etc. Any website that lists his business – I filed a complaint against him. Only the kudzu one shows. It is VERY hard to get complaints posted on these sites that advertize businesses. Trust me, I have tried.

It is naive to think that just because you can’t find a public complaint, that the business is legitimate and that no one has tried to post/publish/file a complaint.

Granted investing is different than hiring a contractor – but they both involve a lot of money changing hands…

NeetaT asked for opinions and people gave them. Just as you gave yours.

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Just a couple of thoughts on your points…

[quote=Sarah G.]
If you actually have any money to invest and if you actually wanted information, wouldn’t the best place to go to be ThunderBlaze itself. Do you realize that here you are getting opinions from “noses”?
[/quote]
When I invest not only do I look at information provided by the company – I look at outside information about the company. I also look at the structure of the company and whether I am comfortable with that structure. Sometimes the structure makes me uncomfortable – so I don’t invest in it. If someone asks my opinion, I’ll give them my opinion – including if I think it’s got inherant risk or is doing things in a way that makes me uncomfortable.

[quote=Sarah G.]
This might be an awesome investment, and then again, it might not be. If it is as presented, it is awsome!
The only way you’ll find out if the investment is as awesome as is presented is to make an investment in it.
[/quote]
If my only means to determine if an investment is “awesome” is to risk money, then I’ll sit on the sidelines. I prefer to do due dilligence before investing. I’m not that unusual.

[quote=Sarah G.]
If it’s bad, you might lose your money, but you’ll make complaints and then the complaints would be available to find. Since no one found anything negative, maybe no one has had any bad experiences with the investment and the investment is legitimate.
[/quote]
I strongly disagree with this statement. Here’s an example of doing business with a company that did not have any complaints against it.

I hired a contractor who turned out, I learned after the fact, to have a business model of ripping people off. I did my due dilligence – I’d checked his license status, I’d called the references he supplied, I googled him, I checked to see if there were lawsuits filed against him… I checked him out as thoroughly as I could. There were NO dings on his license or complaints against him. It turns out that complaints HAD been filed against him with the state, but the CSLB hadn’t processed them yet. We later filed a very thorough, documented complaint against him and it took a year before it showed on the CSLB website and is still waiting to be prosecuted by the AG’s office.

Just because a business doesn’t have a complaint against it – doesn’t mean it’s legitimate.

Additionally – I have done my best to get complaints agains him. I’ve written complaints against him with Kudzu, ServiceMasters, etc. Any website that lists his business – I filed a complaint against him. Only the kudzu one shows. It is VERY hard to get complaints posted on these sites that advertize businesses. Trust me, I have tried.

It is naive to think that just because you can’t find a public complaint, that the business is legitimate and that no one has tried to post/publish/file a complaint.

Granted investing is different than hiring a contractor – but they both involve a lot of money changing hands…

NeetaT asked for opinions and people gave them. Just as you gave yours.

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Just a couple of thoughts on your points…

[quote=Sarah G.]
If you actually have any money to invest and if you actually wanted information, wouldn’t the best place to go to be ThunderBlaze itself. Do you realize that here you are getting opinions from “noses”?
[/quote]
When I invest not only do I look at information provided by the company – I look at outside information about the company. I also look at the structure of the company and whether I am comfortable with that structure. Sometimes the structure makes me uncomfortable – so I don’t invest in it. If someone asks my opinion, I’ll give them my opinion – including if I think it’s got inherant risk or is doing things in a way that makes me uncomfortable.

[quote=Sarah G.]
This might be an awesome investment, and then again, it might not be. If it is as presented, it is awsome!
The only way you’ll find out if the investment is as awesome as is presented is to make an investment in it.
[/quote]
If my only means to determine if an investment is “awesome” is to risk money, then I’ll sit on the sidelines. I prefer to do due dilligence before investing. I’m not that unusual.

[quote=Sarah G.]
If it’s bad, you might lose your money, but you’ll make complaints and then the complaints would be available to find. Since no one found anything negative, maybe no one has had any bad experiences with the investment and the investment is legitimate.
[/quote]
I strongly disagree with this statement. Here’s an example of doing business with a company that did not have any complaints against it.

I hired a contractor who turned out, I learned after the fact, to have a business model of ripping people off. I did my due dilligence – I’d checked his license status, I’d called the references he supplied, I googled him, I checked to see if there were lawsuits filed against him… I checked him out as thoroughly as I could. There were NO dings on his license or complaints against him. It turns out that complaints HAD been filed against him with the state, but the CSLB hadn’t processed them yet. We later filed a very thorough, documented complaint against him and it took a year before it showed on the CSLB website and is still waiting to be prosecuted by the AG’s office.

Just because a business doesn’t have a complaint against it – doesn’t mean it’s legitimate.

Additionally – I have done my best to get complaints agains him. I’ve written complaints against him with Kudzu, ServiceMasters, etc. Any website that lists his business – I filed a complaint against him. Only the kudzu one shows. It is VERY hard to get complaints posted on these sites that advertize businesses. Trust me, I have tried.

It is naive to think that just because you can’t find a public complaint, that the business is legitimate and that no one has tried to post/publish/file a complaint.

Granted investing is different than hiring a contractor – but they both involve a lot of money changing hands…

NeetaT asked for opinions and people gave them. Just as you gave yours.

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Just a couple of thoughts on your points…

[quote=Sarah G.]
If you actually have any money to invest and if you actually wanted information, wouldn’t the best place to go to be ThunderBlaze itself. Do you realize that here you are getting opinions from “noses”?
[/quote]
When I invest not only do I look at information provided by the company – I look at outside information about the company. I also look at the structure of the company and whether I am comfortable with that structure. Sometimes the structure makes me uncomfortable – so I don’t invest in it. If someone asks my opinion, I’ll give them my opinion – including if I think it’s got inherant risk or is doing things in a way that makes me uncomfortable.

[quote=Sarah G.]
This might be an awesome investment, and then again, it might not be. If it is as presented, it is awsome!
The only way you’ll find out if the investment is as awesome as is presented is to make an investment in it.
[/quote]
If my only means to determine if an investment is “awesome” is to risk money, then I’ll sit on the sidelines. I prefer to do due dilligence before investing. I’m not that unusual.

[quote=Sarah G.]
If it’s bad, you might lose your money, but you’ll make complaints and then the complaints would be available to find. Since no one found anything negative, maybe no one has had any bad experiences with the investment and the investment is legitimate.
[/quote]
I strongly disagree with this statement. Here’s an example of doing business with a company that did not have any complaints against it.

I hired a contractor who turned out, I learned after the fact, to have a business model of ripping people off. I did my due dilligence – I’d checked his license status, I’d called the references he supplied, I googled him, I checked to see if there were lawsuits filed against him… I checked him out as thoroughly as I could. There were NO dings on his license or complaints against him. It turns out that complaints HAD been filed against him with the state, but the CSLB hadn’t processed them yet. We later filed a very thorough, documented complaint against him and it took a year before it showed on the CSLB website and is still waiting to be prosecuted by the AG’s office.

Just because a business doesn’t have a complaint against it – doesn’t mean it’s legitimate.

Additionally – I have done my best to get complaints agains him. I’ve written complaints against him with Kudzu, ServiceMasters, etc. Any website that lists his business – I filed a complaint against him. Only the kudzu one shows. It is VERY hard to get complaints posted on these sites that advertize businesses. Trust me, I have tried.

It is naive to think that just because you can’t find a public complaint, that the business is legitimate and that no one has tried to post/publish/file a complaint.

Granted investing is different than hiring a contractor – but they both involve a lot of money changing hands…

NeetaT asked for opinions and people gave them. Just as you gave yours.

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Just a couple of thoughts on your points…

[quote=Sarah G.]
If you actually have any money to invest and if you actually wanted information, wouldn’t the best place to go to be ThunderBlaze itself. Do you realize that here you are getting opinions from “noses”?
[/quote]
When I invest not only do I look at information provided by the company – I look at outside information about the company. I also look at the structure of the company and whether I am comfortable with that structure. Sometimes the structure makes me uncomfortable – so I don’t invest in it. If someone asks my opinion, I’ll give them my opinion – including if I think it’s got inherant risk or is doing things in a way that makes me uncomfortable.

[quote=Sarah G.]
This might be an awesome investment, and then again, it might not be. If it is as presented, it is awsome!
The only way you’ll find out if the investment is as awesome as is presented is to make an investment in it.
[/quote]
If my only means to determine if an investment is “awesome” is to risk money, then I’ll sit on the sidelines. I prefer to do due dilligence before investing. I’m not that unusual.

[quote=Sarah G.]
If it’s bad, you might lose your money, but you’ll make complaints and then the complaints would be available to find. Since no one found anything negative, maybe no one has had any bad experiences with the investment and the investment is legitimate.
[/quote]
I strongly disagree with this statement. Here’s an example of doing business with a company that did not have any complaints against it.

I hired a contractor who turned out, I learned after the fact, to have a business model of ripping people off. I did my due dilligence – I’d checked his license status, I’d called the references he supplied, I googled him, I checked to see if there were lawsuits filed against him… I checked him out as thoroughly as I could. There were NO dings on his license or complaints against him. It turns out that complaints HAD been filed against him with the state, but the CSLB hadn’t processed them yet. We later filed a very thorough, documented complaint against him and it took a year before it showed on the CSLB website and is still waiting to be prosecuted by the AG’s office.

Just because a business doesn’t have a complaint against it – doesn’t mean it’s legitimate.

Additionally – I have done my best to get complaints agains him. I’ve written complaints against him with Kudzu, ServiceMasters, etc. Any website that lists his business – I filed a complaint against him. Only the kudzu one shows. It is VERY hard to get complaints posted on these sites that advertize businesses. Trust me, I have tried.

It is naive to think that just because you can’t find a public complaint, that the business is legitimate and that no one has tried to post/publish/file a complaint.

Granted investing is different than hiring a contractor – but they both involve a lot of money changing hands…

NeetaT asked for opinions and people gave them. Just as you gave yours.

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[quote=flu]That’s actually a common issue among tracts. On my tax bill, it lists my home as a 4/3 2600 even though it’s a 5/3 2600, because during the original buildout, there was the option to either have a 3 car tandem garage or have another bedroom and 2 car garage. Never corrected this in the county, but county office said it wasn’t a big deal.[/quote]

flu – I’m confused. I thought garage space wasn’t counted in the square footage. (Not heated, etc.) How are they both 2600?

Not that it matters… I’m just obsessive about really irrelevant stuff.

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[quote=flu]That’s actually a common issue among tracts. On my tax bill, it lists my home as a 4/3 2600 even though it’s a 5/3 2600, because during the original buildout, there was the option to either have a 3 car tandem garage or have another bedroom and 2 car garage. Never corrected this in the county, but county office said it wasn’t a big deal.[/quote]

flu – I’m confused. I thought garage space wasn’t counted in the square footage. (Not heated, etc.) How are they both 2600?

Not that it matters… I’m just obsessive about really irrelevant stuff.

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