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[quote=no_such_reality]The answer is simple. It’s the same as when a major corporation has major cash flow programs.

They just slash the budget across the board. The directive is to maintain their service levels but they reduce staff 20%, reduce the budget 20% and let the departments figure it out.

For example, only 57 cents of every dollar is spent in the class room. Cut 20 cents and direct the districts to maintain the previous classroom spending.

THe problem is so big, specific cuts won’t do it.

Then again, maybe we just direct the Prison sysem to figure out why then spend over $50,000 per inmate and the national average is $24,000 per inmate and State’s like Texas are under $20,000.[/quote]

Except at a corporation the folks at the top would then award themselves big bonuses for being so effective at making the cuts. The board of directors would agree – and up their own compensation while they’re at it. In the meantime 15-20% of the former employees are out of jobs and those remaining have more work and less budget to work with.

Call me cynical. I don’t think the corporate model is a good one.

[UCGal]

[quote=no_such_reality]The answer is simple. It’s the same as when a major corporation has major cash flow programs.

They just slash the budget across the board. The directive is to maintain their service levels but they reduce staff 20%, reduce the budget 20% and let the departments figure it out.

For example, only 57 cents of every dollar is spent in the class room. Cut 20 cents and direct the districts to maintain the previous classroom spending.

THe problem is so big, specific cuts won’t do it.

Then again, maybe we just direct the Prison sysem to figure out why then spend over $50,000 per inmate and the national average is $24,000 per inmate and State’s like Texas are under $20,000.[/quote]

Except at a corporation the folks at the top would then award themselves big bonuses for being so effective at making the cuts. The board of directors would agree – and up their own compensation while they’re at it. In the meantime 15-20% of the former employees are out of jobs and those remaining have more work and less budget to work with.

Call me cynical. I don’t think the corporate model is a good one.

[UCGal]

[quote=no_such_reality]The answer is simple. It’s the same as when a major corporation has major cash flow programs.

They just slash the budget across the board. The directive is to maintain their service levels but they reduce staff 20%, reduce the budget 20% and let the departments figure it out.

For example, only 57 cents of every dollar is spent in the class room. Cut 20 cents and direct the districts to maintain the previous classroom spending.

THe problem is so big, specific cuts won’t do it.

Then again, maybe we just direct the Prison sysem to figure out why then spend over $50,000 per inmate and the national average is $24,000 per inmate and State’s like Texas are under $20,000.[/quote]

Except at a corporation the folks at the top would then award themselves big bonuses for being so effective at making the cuts. The board of directors would agree – and up their own compensation while they’re at it. In the meantime 15-20% of the former employees are out of jobs and those remaining have more work and less budget to work with.

Call me cynical. I don’t think the corporate model is a good one.

[UCGal]

[quote=Aecetia]Flu is correct about toothpaste, it is difficult to find it made in the USA.

Colgate Total: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Oxygen Bubbles Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate Fluoride Toothpaste, Kids line: Made in Canada
Colgate Max Fresh: Made in Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Maximum Strength Sensitive: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Sparkling White Fluoride Toothpaste: Mexico
Colgate Cavity Protection Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate 2 in 1 Toothpaste & Mouthwash: Made in the UK
The Colgate info. was from a yahoo search, but here is a link for checking for products made here.

http://www.americansworking.com/%5B/quote%5D

Toms of Maine is made in the USA. Unless Maine was annexed into Canada. Now that Colgate owns them, though… who knows how long before it gets produced elsewhere.

[UCGal]

[quote=Aecetia]Flu is correct about toothpaste, it is difficult to find it made in the USA.

Colgate Total: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Oxygen Bubbles Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate Fluoride Toothpaste, Kids line: Made in Canada
Colgate Max Fresh: Made in Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Maximum Strength Sensitive: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Sparkling White Fluoride Toothpaste: Mexico
Colgate Cavity Protection Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate 2 in 1 Toothpaste & Mouthwash: Made in the UK
The Colgate info. was from a yahoo search, but here is a link for checking for products made here.

http://www.americansworking.com/%5B/quote%5D

Toms of Maine is made in the USA. Unless Maine was annexed into Canada. Now that Colgate owns them, though… who knows how long before it gets produced elsewhere.

[UCGal]

[quote=Aecetia]Flu is correct about toothpaste, it is difficult to find it made in the USA.

Colgate Total: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Oxygen Bubbles Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate Fluoride Toothpaste, Kids line: Made in Canada
Colgate Max Fresh: Made in Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Maximum Strength Sensitive: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Sparkling White Fluoride Toothpaste: Mexico
Colgate Cavity Protection Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate 2 in 1 Toothpaste & Mouthwash: Made in the UK
The Colgate info. was from a yahoo search, but here is a link for checking for products made here.

http://www.americansworking.com/%5B/quote%5D

Toms of Maine is made in the USA. Unless Maine was annexed into Canada. Now that Colgate owns them, though… who knows how long before it gets produced elsewhere.

[UCGal]

[quote=Aecetia]Flu is correct about toothpaste, it is difficult to find it made in the USA.

Colgate Total: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Oxygen Bubbles Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate Fluoride Toothpaste, Kids line: Made in Canada
Colgate Max Fresh: Made in Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Maximum Strength Sensitive: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Sparkling White Fluoride Toothpaste: Mexico
Colgate Cavity Protection Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate 2 in 1 Toothpaste & Mouthwash: Made in the UK
The Colgate info. was from a yahoo search, but here is a link for checking for products made here.

http://www.americansworking.com/%5B/quote%5D

Toms of Maine is made in the USA. Unless Maine was annexed into Canada. Now that Colgate owns them, though… who knows how long before it gets produced elsewhere.

[UCGal]

[quote=Aecetia]Flu is correct about toothpaste, it is difficult to find it made in the USA.

Colgate Total: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Oxygen Bubbles Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate Fluoride Toothpaste, Kids line: Made in Canada
Colgate Max Fresh: Made in Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Maximum Strength Sensitive: Made in U.S.A.
Colgate Sparkling White Fluoride Toothpaste: Mexico
Colgate Cavity Protection Fluoride Toothpaste: Made in Mexico
Colgate 2 in 1 Toothpaste & Mouthwash: Made in the UK
The Colgate info. was from a yahoo search, but here is a link for checking for products made here.

http://www.americansworking.com/%5B/quote%5D

Toms of Maine is made in the USA. Unless Maine was annexed into Canada. Now that Colgate owns them, though… who knows how long before it gets produced elsewhere.

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thought I’d toss a chart into the mix.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

I realize CPI is not specifically being discussed here – but this is another data point… CPI and alternate CPI (as it was calculated before 1990.)

On an anectdotal basis – my base salary (same employer) has gone up 20%… the bulk of that in two moves: one when I transfered to CA (fortunately, before the eliminated the pay differential) and one when I got a promotion. Those big jumps were offset with 3 years of NO increase (zero, zip, nada). That’s just base salary. Bonuses, 401k match, etc have also had negative and positive impacts on my real earnings.

Any increase I got was offset by my husband’s underemployment. We’re definitely pulling in less now than in 2006.

[UCGal]

thought I’d toss a chart into the mix.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

I realize CPI is not specifically being discussed here – but this is another data point… CPI and alternate CPI (as it was calculated before 1990.)

On an anectdotal basis – my base salary (same employer) has gone up 20%… the bulk of that in two moves: one when I transfered to CA (fortunately, before the eliminated the pay differential) and one when I got a promotion. Those big jumps were offset with 3 years of NO increase (zero, zip, nada). That’s just base salary. Bonuses, 401k match, etc have also had negative and positive impacts on my real earnings.

Any increase I got was offset by my husband’s underemployment. We’re definitely pulling in less now than in 2006.

[UCGal]

thought I’d toss a chart into the mix.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

I realize CPI is not specifically being discussed here – but this is another data point… CPI and alternate CPI (as it was calculated before 1990.)

On an anectdotal basis – my base salary (same employer) has gone up 20%… the bulk of that in two moves: one when I transfered to CA (fortunately, before the eliminated the pay differential) and one when I got a promotion. Those big jumps were offset with 3 years of NO increase (zero, zip, nada). That’s just base salary. Bonuses, 401k match, etc have also had negative and positive impacts on my real earnings.

Any increase I got was offset by my husband’s underemployment. We’re definitely pulling in less now than in 2006.

[UCGal]

thought I’d toss a chart into the mix.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

I realize CPI is not specifically being discussed here – but this is another data point… CPI and alternate CPI (as it was calculated before 1990.)

On an anectdotal basis – my base salary (same employer) has gone up 20%… the bulk of that in two moves: one when I transfered to CA (fortunately, before the eliminated the pay differential) and one when I got a promotion. Those big jumps were offset with 3 years of NO increase (zero, zip, nada). That’s just base salary. Bonuses, 401k match, etc have also had negative and positive impacts on my real earnings.

Any increase I got was offset by my husband’s underemployment. We’re definitely pulling in less now than in 2006.

[UCGal]

thought I’d toss a chart into the mix.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

I realize CPI is not specifically being discussed here – but this is another data point… CPI and alternate CPI (as it was calculated before 1990.)

On an anectdotal basis – my base salary (same employer) has gone up 20%… the bulk of that in two moves: one when I transfered to CA (fortunately, before the eliminated the pay differential) and one when I got a promotion. Those big jumps were offset with 3 years of NO increase (zero, zip, nada). That’s just base salary. Bonuses, 401k match, etc have also had negative and positive impacts on my real earnings.

Any increase I got was offset by my husband’s underemployment. We’re definitely pulling in less now than in 2006.

[UCGal]

My sister switched to teaching in her 30’s (after getting an MBA and working in business for most of her 20’s). Despite having a masters (MBA) she had to take 2 years of education courses and do a year of unpaid student teaching before she was credentialed for CA.

A good friend has a similar story. Worked sales and had a business degree, then went and got a teaching credential… it was a few years of education classes then a year of unpaid student teaching.

Both my sister and friend made the choice to give up better paying jobs specifically to become teachers. Some people love teaching, put in 80 hour weeks as teachers. They’re both type A type people. They put their all into teaching.

I can’t speak for other districts – but San Diego Unified is reducing the number of teachers. They’ve increased class sizes due to budget cuts and will likely be increasing sizes even more for the 2011/12 school year. What does that mean? They aren’t hiring new teachers.

[UCGal]

My sister switched to teaching in her 30’s (after getting an MBA and working in business for most of her 20’s). Despite having a masters (MBA) she had to take 2 years of education courses and do a year of unpaid student teaching before she was credentialed for CA.

A good friend has a similar story. Worked sales and had a business degree, then went and got a teaching credential… it was a few years of education classes then a year of unpaid student teaching.

Both my sister and friend made the choice to give up better paying jobs specifically to become teachers. Some people love teaching, put in 80 hour weeks as teachers. They’re both type A type people. They put their all into teaching.

I can’t speak for other districts – but San Diego Unified is reducing the number of teachers. They’ve increased class sizes due to budget cuts and will likely be increasing sizes even more for the 2011/12 school year. What does that mean? They aren’t hiring new teachers.

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