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Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=treehugger]My sister is 40 years old. 5’8″ 350 pounds.
Me 38 years old. 5’7″ 120 pounds[/quote]
A 300+ pound difference in weight between two siblings? That’s pretty unusual. Should we be basing national policy on such a single, extreme, example?
I’m no fan of sloth and gluttony, but most people couldn’t bring their weight up to 350 pounds even if they wanted to (I know I couldn’t).
And you really think the difference is simply that “she’s lazy and I’m not.”
Did ever occur to you, in the past three decades that you’ve known her, that she might actually have a medical condition?[/quote]
Really? Are you that ignorant or do you just assume I am? One of the top shows in this country is the Biggest Loser. Have you been to Disneyland, wow that is one hell of a cross section of middle America, lots of overweight people there. Lots of people have no problem getting their weight up to an obese level. And yes, IN THIS CASE, it is simple. It is about choices. My personal example was 2 sisters with the same genetic potential. My parents are not stunning examples of fitness, my dad is a runner (just finished the New York Marathon in November at 66) and my mother has done weight watchers for years. They both struggle with their weight.
I choose to be healthy. I OCCASIONALLY indulge in Nachos, pizza, whatever, but it is countered with a much more frequant healthy style of eating and I exercise a lot. My sister makes different choices.
As for the thyroid, she has been tested, as have I. There was nothing metabolically/physically wrong with her to account for the obesity. Before they are allowed to have the surgery they ensure there are no underlying health effects and put them through 6 months of “counseling”. Did it ever occur to you that I have known her for 38 years and have seen her choices firsthand as well as the steady weight gain year over year?
The question was is healthcare a right. I say no it is not. That being said, my sister had the surgery in September and has already lost 60 pounds. I am very happy for her and hope for the best. She has joined a gym and has been walking. My sincere hope is that she has reevaluated her past choices and chooses a healthier path.
Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=treehugger]My sister is 40 years old. 5’8″ 350 pounds.
Me 38 years old. 5’7″ 120 pounds[/quote]
A 300+ pound difference in weight between two siblings? That’s pretty unusual. Should we be basing national policy on such a single, extreme, example?
I’m no fan of sloth and gluttony, but most people couldn’t bring their weight up to 350 pounds even if they wanted to (I know I couldn’t).
And you really think the difference is simply that “she’s lazy and I’m not.”
Did ever occur to you, in the past three decades that you’ve known her, that she might actually have a medical condition?[/quote]
Really? Are you that ignorant or do you just assume I am? One of the top shows in this country is the Biggest Loser. Have you been to Disneyland, wow that is one hell of a cross section of middle America, lots of overweight people there. Lots of people have no problem getting their weight up to an obese level. And yes, IN THIS CASE, it is simple. It is about choices. My personal example was 2 sisters with the same genetic potential. My parents are not stunning examples of fitness, my dad is a runner (just finished the New York Marathon in November at 66) and my mother has done weight watchers for years. They both struggle with their weight.
I choose to be healthy. I OCCASIONALLY indulge in Nachos, pizza, whatever, but it is countered with a much more frequant healthy style of eating and I exercise a lot. My sister makes different choices.
As for the thyroid, she has been tested, as have I. There was nothing metabolically/physically wrong with her to account for the obesity. Before they are allowed to have the surgery they ensure there are no underlying health effects and put them through 6 months of “counseling”. Did it ever occur to you that I have known her for 38 years and have seen her choices firsthand as well as the steady weight gain year over year?
The question was is healthcare a right. I say no it is not. That being said, my sister had the surgery in September and has already lost 60 pounds. I am very happy for her and hope for the best. She has joined a gym and has been walking. My sincere hope is that she has reevaluated her past choices and chooses a healthier path.
Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=treehugger]My sister is 40 years old. 5’8″ 350 pounds.
Me 38 years old. 5’7″ 120 pounds[/quote]
A 300+ pound difference in weight between two siblings? That’s pretty unusual. Should we be basing national policy on such a single, extreme, example?
I’m no fan of sloth and gluttony, but most people couldn’t bring their weight up to 350 pounds even if they wanted to (I know I couldn’t).
And you really think the difference is simply that “she’s lazy and I’m not.”
Did ever occur to you, in the past three decades that you’ve known her, that she might actually have a medical condition?[/quote]
Really? Are you that ignorant or do you just assume I am? One of the top shows in this country is the Biggest Loser. Have you been to Disneyland, wow that is one hell of a cross section of middle America, lots of overweight people there. Lots of people have no problem getting their weight up to an obese level. And yes, IN THIS CASE, it is simple. It is about choices. My personal example was 2 sisters with the same genetic potential. My parents are not stunning examples of fitness, my dad is a runner (just finished the New York Marathon in November at 66) and my mother has done weight watchers for years. They both struggle with their weight.
I choose to be healthy. I OCCASIONALLY indulge in Nachos, pizza, whatever, but it is countered with a much more frequant healthy style of eating and I exercise a lot. My sister makes different choices.
As for the thyroid, she has been tested, as have I. There was nothing metabolically/physically wrong with her to account for the obesity. Before they are allowed to have the surgery they ensure there are no underlying health effects and put them through 6 months of “counseling”. Did it ever occur to you that I have known her for 38 years and have seen her choices firsthand as well as the steady weight gain year over year?
The question was is healthcare a right. I say no it is not. That being said, my sister had the surgery in September and has already lost 60 pounds. I am very happy for her and hope for the best. She has joined a gym and has been walking. My sincere hope is that she has reevaluated her past choices and chooses a healthier path.
Participant[quote=pri_dk][quote=treehugger]My sister is 40 years old. 5’8″ 350 pounds.
Me 38 years old. 5’7″ 120 pounds[/quote]
A 300+ pound difference in weight between two siblings? That’s pretty unusual. Should we be basing national policy on such a single, extreme, example?
I’m no fan of sloth and gluttony, but most people couldn’t bring their weight up to 350 pounds even if they wanted to (I know I couldn’t).
And you really think the difference is simply that “she’s lazy and I’m not.”
Did ever occur to you, in the past three decades that you’ve known her, that she might actually have a medical condition?[/quote]
Really? Are you that ignorant or do you just assume I am? One of the top shows in this country is the Biggest Loser. Have you been to Disneyland, wow that is one hell of a cross section of middle America, lots of overweight people there. Lots of people have no problem getting their weight up to an obese level. And yes, IN THIS CASE, it is simple. It is about choices. My personal example was 2 sisters with the same genetic potential. My parents are not stunning examples of fitness, my dad is a runner (just finished the New York Marathon in November at 66) and my mother has done weight watchers for years. They both struggle with their weight.
I choose to be healthy. I OCCASIONALLY indulge in Nachos, pizza, whatever, but it is countered with a much more frequant healthy style of eating and I exercise a lot. My sister makes different choices.
As for the thyroid, she has been tested, as have I. There was nothing metabolically/physically wrong with her to account for the obesity. Before they are allowed to have the surgery they ensure there are no underlying health effects and put them through 6 months of “counseling”. Did it ever occur to you that I have known her for 38 years and have seen her choices firsthand as well as the steady weight gain year over year?
The question was is healthcare a right. I say no it is not. That being said, my sister had the surgery in September and has already lost 60 pounds. I am very happy for her and hope for the best. She has joined a gym and has been walking. My sincere hope is that she has reevaluated her past choices and chooses a healthier path.
ParticipantMy sister is 40 years old. 5’8″ 350 pounds. Loves fast food/junkfood and her idea of exercising is walking from the car to into Walmart (she gets to park in handicapped, because being obese is a handicapp in America). She just had the gastric bypass surgery and is collecting disability, all on our dime. I am about to loan her money to make rent….
Me 38 years old. 5’7″ 120 pounds 12-15% body fat. Extremely fit and active, have a college degreee, good job, and health insurance. Crashed my mountain bike last spring and broke my arm. Had health insurance (kaiser), but also paid cash out of pocket to get gore-tex cast liner and weekly cast changes (I am way to old and make to much money to tolerate anything less).
Is health care a right? HELL NO! Are there individuals that need a handout/helping hand, sure. Am I willing to help them? Absolutely.
My mom worked as a nurse when I was a kid. Her specialty was with mentally handicapped kids. She worked at a place that was a state run “institution”. She used to take us to work with her for an education. Parents used to be able to dump their “damaged” kids at this place and the state would pay for it. Very sad, there was one woman I remember that was in her 50’s and had been there her entire life, she was a deaf mute. Another had MS.
Would I rather see a health care bill that prevents this kind of mass abandonment, yes. I still cringe at what went on in that place and at MY interpretation of government run healthcare.
I just want to see individuals (if they are physically and mentally able) take personal responsibility for their life choices. I don’t want to have to be PC. I don’t want to have to call drug and alcohol addiction a “disease”.
end rant.
ParticipantMy sister is 40 years old. 5’8″ 350 pounds. Loves fast food/junkfood and her idea of exercising is walking from the car to into Walmart (she gets to park in handicapped, because being obese is a handicapp in America). She just had the gastric bypass surgery and is collecting disability, all on our dime. I am about to loan her money to make rent….
Me 38 years old. 5’7″ 120 pounds 12-15% body fat. Extremely fit and active, have a college degreee, good job, and health insurance. Crashed my mountain bike last spring and broke my arm. Had health insurance (kaiser), but also paid cash out of pocket to get gore-tex cast liner and weekly cast changes (I am way to old and make to much money to tolerate anything less).
Is health care a right? HELL NO! Are there individuals that need a handout/helping hand, sure. Am I willing to help them? Absolutely.
My mom worked as a nurse when I was a kid. Her specialty was with mentally handicapped kids. She worked at a place that was a state run “institution”. She used to take us to work with her for an education. Parents used to be able to dump their “damaged” kids at this place and the state would pay for it. Very sad, there was one woman I remember that was in her 50’s and had been there her entire life, she was a deaf mute. Another had MS.
Would I rather see a health care bill that prevents this kind of mass abandonment, yes. I still cringe at what went on in that place and at MY interpretation of government run healthcare.
I just want to see individuals (if they are physically and mentally able) take personal responsibility for their life choices. I don’t want to have to be PC. I don’t want to have to call drug and alcohol addiction a “disease”.
end rant.
ParticipantMy sister is 40 years old. 5’8″ 350 pounds. Loves fast food/junkfood and her idea of exercising is walking from the car to into Walmart (she gets to park in handicapped, because being obese is a handicapp in America). She just had the gastric bypass surgery and is collecting disability, all on our dime. I am about to loan her money to make rent….
Me 38 years old. 5’7″ 120 pounds 12-15% body fat. Extremely fit and active, have a college degreee, good job, and health insurance. Crashed my mountain bike last spring and broke my arm. Had health insurance (kaiser), but also paid cash out of pocket to get gore-tex cast liner and weekly cast changes (I am way to old and make to much money to tolerate anything less).
Is health care a right? HELL NO! Are there individuals that need a handout/helping hand, sure. Am I willing to help them? Absolutely.
My mom worked as a nurse when I was a kid. Her specialty was with mentally handicapped kids. She worked at a place that was a state run “institution”. She used to take us to work with her for an education. Parents used to be able to dump their “damaged” kids at this place and the state would pay for it. Very sad, there was one woman I remember that was in her 50’s and had been there her entire life, she was a deaf mute. Another had MS.
Would I rather see a health care bill that prevents this kind of mass abandonment, yes. I still cringe at what went on in that place and at MY interpretation of government run healthcare.
I just want to see individuals (if they are physically and mentally able) take personal responsibility for their life choices. I don’t want to have to be PC. I don’t want to have to call drug and alcohol addiction a “disease”.
end rant.
ParticipantMy sister is 40 years old. 5’8″ 350 pounds. Loves fast food/junkfood and her idea of exercising is walking from the car to into Walmart (she gets to park in handicapped, because being obese is a handicapp in America). She just had the gastric bypass surgery and is collecting disability, all on our dime. I am about to loan her money to make rent….
Me 38 years old. 5’7″ 120 pounds 12-15% body fat. Extremely fit and active, have a college degreee, good job, and health insurance. Crashed my mountain bike last spring and broke my arm. Had health insurance (kaiser), but also paid cash out of pocket to get gore-tex cast liner and weekly cast changes (I am way to old and make to much money to tolerate anything less).
Is health care a right? HELL NO! Are there individuals that need a handout/helping hand, sure. Am I willing to help them? Absolutely.
My mom worked as a nurse when I was a kid. Her specialty was with mentally handicapped kids. She worked at a place that was a state run “institution”. She used to take us to work with her for an education. Parents used to be able to dump their “damaged” kids at this place and the state would pay for it. Very sad, there was one woman I remember that was in her 50’s and had been there her entire life, she was a deaf mute. Another had MS.
Would I rather see a health care bill that prevents this kind of mass abandonment, yes. I still cringe at what went on in that place and at MY interpretation of government run healthcare.
I just want to see individuals (if they are physically and mentally able) take personal responsibility for their life choices. I don’t want to have to be PC. I don’t want to have to call drug and alcohol addiction a “disease”.
end rant.
ParticipantMy sister is 40 years old. 5’8″ 350 pounds. Loves fast food/junkfood and her idea of exercising is walking from the car to into Walmart (she gets to park in handicapped, because being obese is a handicapp in America). She just had the gastric bypass surgery and is collecting disability, all on our dime. I am about to loan her money to make rent….
Me 38 years old. 5’7″ 120 pounds 12-15% body fat. Extremely fit and active, have a college degreee, good job, and health insurance. Crashed my mountain bike last spring and broke my arm. Had health insurance (kaiser), but also paid cash out of pocket to get gore-tex cast liner and weekly cast changes (I am way to old and make to much money to tolerate anything less).
Is health care a right? HELL NO! Are there individuals that need a handout/helping hand, sure. Am I willing to help them? Absolutely.
My mom worked as a nurse when I was a kid. Her specialty was with mentally handicapped kids. She worked at a place that was a state run “institution”. She used to take us to work with her for an education. Parents used to be able to dump their “damaged” kids at this place and the state would pay for it. Very sad, there was one woman I remember that was in her 50’s and had been there her entire life, she was a deaf mute. Another had MS.
Would I rather see a health care bill that prevents this kind of mass abandonment, yes. I still cringe at what went on in that place and at MY interpretation of government run healthcare.
I just want to see individuals (if they are physically and mentally able) take personal responsibility for their life choices. I don’t want to have to be PC. I don’t want to have to call drug and alcohol addiction a “disease”.
end rant.
ParticipantFor all of you attempting to avoid paying taxes on big ticket items shipped over the internet:
The State of California would like you to hold onto your receipt and submit it with the appropriate tax payment next year 🙂Online purchasers trying to shirk their tax duties are going to cost the state of California BILLIONS!!
This is the honor system folks!
Heard that on NPR this morning and I do love to quote NPR.
So, if I am understanding it really is not that important to have 1080 over 720 if I just watch the occasional trash tv and am getting it so it takes up less space in my house.
ParticipantFor all of you attempting to avoid paying taxes on big ticket items shipped over the internet:
The State of California would like you to hold onto your receipt and submit it with the appropriate tax payment next year 🙂Online purchasers trying to shirk their tax duties are going to cost the state of California BILLIONS!!
This is the honor system folks!
Heard that on NPR this morning and I do love to quote NPR.
So, if I am understanding it really is not that important to have 1080 over 720 if I just watch the occasional trash tv and am getting it so it takes up less space in my house.
ParticipantFor all of you attempting to avoid paying taxes on big ticket items shipped over the internet:
The State of California would like you to hold onto your receipt and submit it with the appropriate tax payment next year 🙂Online purchasers trying to shirk their tax duties are going to cost the state of California BILLIONS!!
This is the honor system folks!
Heard that on NPR this morning and I do love to quote NPR.
So, if I am understanding it really is not that important to have 1080 over 720 if I just watch the occasional trash tv and am getting it so it takes up less space in my house.
ParticipantFor all of you attempting to avoid paying taxes on big ticket items shipped over the internet:
The State of California would like you to hold onto your receipt and submit it with the appropriate tax payment next year 🙂Online purchasers trying to shirk their tax duties are going to cost the state of California BILLIONS!!
This is the honor system folks!
Heard that on NPR this morning and I do love to quote NPR.
So, if I am understanding it really is not that important to have 1080 over 720 if I just watch the occasional trash tv and am getting it so it takes up less space in my house.
ParticipantFor all of you attempting to avoid paying taxes on big ticket items shipped over the internet:
The State of California would like you to hold onto your receipt and submit it with the appropriate tax payment next year 🙂Online purchasers trying to shirk their tax duties are going to cost the state of California BILLIONS!!
This is the honor system folks!
Heard that on NPR this morning and I do love to quote NPR.
So, if I am understanding it really is not that important to have 1080 over 720 if I just watch the occasional trash tv and am getting it so it takes up less space in my house.
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