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For those of you without a zip password, myself included here it is on redfin
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1037052
Nice find Former, now hit those books and find us a 50%
temeculaguyParticipantFor those of you without a zip password, myself included here it is on redfin
http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1037052
Nice find Former, now hit those books and find us a 50%
August 10, 2007 at 4:03 PM in reply to: Nationally televised news program needs family facing forclosure for story #72979temeculaguyParticipantThanks Perry, that makes sense. I get everything about the checks and balances but as far as the industry not wanting the word to get out to prevent everyone from wanting it or rewarding bad behavior, I don’t put enough faith in them as a group. They played a big role in what is now rocking the global economy all based in part on their greed and competition against each other. I don’t see them being in lock step as they go down, my guess is some will break away and try and save their own skin very soon. But I guess they are just acting like anyone would, smiling and extending credit while they make money and very cautious/suspicious while they are losing it.
August 10, 2007 at 4:03 PM in reply to: Nationally televised news program needs family facing forclosure for story #73100temeculaguyParticipantThanks Perry, that makes sense. I get everything about the checks and balances but as far as the industry not wanting the word to get out to prevent everyone from wanting it or rewarding bad behavior, I don’t put enough faith in them as a group. They played a big role in what is now rocking the global economy all based in part on their greed and competition against each other. I don’t see them being in lock step as they go down, my guess is some will break away and try and save their own skin very soon. But I guess they are just acting like anyone would, smiling and extending credit while they make money and very cautious/suspicious while they are losing it.
August 10, 2007 at 4:03 PM in reply to: Nationally televised news program needs family facing forclosure for story #73104temeculaguyParticipantThanks Perry, that makes sense. I get everything about the checks and balances but as far as the industry not wanting the word to get out to prevent everyone from wanting it or rewarding bad behavior, I don’t put enough faith in them as a group. They played a big role in what is now rocking the global economy all based in part on their greed and competition against each other. I don’t see them being in lock step as they go down, my guess is some will break away and try and save their own skin very soon. But I guess they are just acting like anyone would, smiling and extending credit while they make money and very cautious/suspicious while they are losing it.
temeculaguyParticipantPasadena, Please don’t interpret my words as me trying to pick a fight and it’s hard to tell if someone is a studied lurker or a drop in, was just trying to bring you up to speed but obviously you already are. As Bugs pointed out, there appears to be evidence that the original properties are more than one, recently built and indicative of a specuvestor. There are many hard working families who own only one home and are getting screwed right now, that sucks, wish it didn’t happen. I know as a broker you feel bad for some of them looking for relief but I have seen the other side of this and it has jaded me a little. I have a few dozen employees yet I don’t set their wages. I like them, wish the best for them and consider them friends. Most of them make just under six figures and almost all have young children. None of them can buy a modest home with decent schools and for the last 100 years people in their position could. They did what they were told, they went to school, got good jobs, work hard every day and what they ask in return has always been attainable until now. I know those times will return and unfortunately there will be casualties on the way there but in the end it will be better for society as a whole. Dina will survive, she won’t lose any limbs and hopefully she will become a wise investor in the future, or at least one with spell check and can spell the name of the city where she owns homes (dammit, all this way writing like a grown up and then, poof).
temeculaguyParticipantPasadena, Please don’t interpret my words as me trying to pick a fight and it’s hard to tell if someone is a studied lurker or a drop in, was just trying to bring you up to speed but obviously you already are. As Bugs pointed out, there appears to be evidence that the original properties are more than one, recently built and indicative of a specuvestor. There are many hard working families who own only one home and are getting screwed right now, that sucks, wish it didn’t happen. I know as a broker you feel bad for some of them looking for relief but I have seen the other side of this and it has jaded me a little. I have a few dozen employees yet I don’t set their wages. I like them, wish the best for them and consider them friends. Most of them make just under six figures and almost all have young children. None of them can buy a modest home with decent schools and for the last 100 years people in their position could. They did what they were told, they went to school, got good jobs, work hard every day and what they ask in return has always been attainable until now. I know those times will return and unfortunately there will be casualties on the way there but in the end it will be better for society as a whole. Dina will survive, she won’t lose any limbs and hopefully she will become a wise investor in the future, or at least one with spell check and can spell the name of the city where she owns homes (dammit, all this way writing like a grown up and then, poof).
temeculaguyParticipantPasadena, Please don’t interpret my words as me trying to pick a fight and it’s hard to tell if someone is a studied lurker or a drop in, was just trying to bring you up to speed but obviously you already are. As Bugs pointed out, there appears to be evidence that the original properties are more than one, recently built and indicative of a specuvestor. There are many hard working families who own only one home and are getting screwed right now, that sucks, wish it didn’t happen. I know as a broker you feel bad for some of them looking for relief but I have seen the other side of this and it has jaded me a little. I have a few dozen employees yet I don’t set their wages. I like them, wish the best for them and consider them friends. Most of them make just under six figures and almost all have young children. None of them can buy a modest home with decent schools and for the last 100 years people in their position could. They did what they were told, they went to school, got good jobs, work hard every day and what they ask in return has always been attainable until now. I know those times will return and unfortunately there will be casualties on the way there but in the end it will be better for society as a whole. Dina will survive, she won’t lose any limbs and hopefully she will become a wise investor in the future, or at least one with spell check and can spell the name of the city where she owns homes (dammit, all this way writing like a grown up and then, poof).
temeculaguyParticipantThanks Perry, not to turn this into a lovefest but you are easily one of the top ten minds in these boards, I’ve taken quite a bit from your posts, some philosiphy and some practical (shopping furniture on Craigs right now). I read a great deal from a variety of sources and there are some posters here who provide better insight than most paid authors and analysts, the only true sage advice is given for free. OK, since this was a warm fuzzy post, gotta close with a Lao Tzu quote, one that I think hits the current market conditions perfectly despite being written about 400 b.c. “Standing on tiptoe, you are unsteady”
temeculaguyParticipantThanks Perry, not to turn this into a lovefest but you are easily one of the top ten minds in these boards, I’ve taken quite a bit from your posts, some philosiphy and some practical (shopping furniture on Craigs right now). I read a great deal from a variety of sources and there are some posters here who provide better insight than most paid authors and analysts, the only true sage advice is given for free. OK, since this was a warm fuzzy post, gotta close with a Lao Tzu quote, one that I think hits the current market conditions perfectly despite being written about 400 b.c. “Standing on tiptoe, you are unsteady”
temeculaguyParticipantThanks Perry, not to turn this into a lovefest but you are easily one of the top ten minds in these boards, I’ve taken quite a bit from your posts, some philosiphy and some practical (shopping furniture on Craigs right now). I read a great deal from a variety of sources and there are some posters here who provide better insight than most paid authors and analysts, the only true sage advice is given for free. OK, since this was a warm fuzzy post, gotta close with a Lao Tzu quote, one that I think hits the current market conditions perfectly despite being written about 400 b.c. “Standing on tiptoe, you are unsteady”
temeculaguyParticipantPasadena, you’ll need to have to have some thick skin for some of the posters here, it’s not personal, just let it roll off.
The reason for the lack of compassion is some pent up anger. These good people (investors) were the cause of the pain many buyers here suffered though in the last five years and we received no such compassion when we were priced out or refused to join the insanity, we were ridiculed and demeaned. Look at Dina, she can’t even type but she could buy a couple of homes and helped drive the price beyond where some families could afford it that would have actually made the payments and lived there. Sure I have a little compassion but it is tempered by the fact that she and those like her not only played with matches but they took the whole book of matches preventing some families from being able to light their stove to make dinner.
I cannot defend some comments but there are real people who deserve compassion and charity who suffered calamity and misfortune through no fault of their own. My charity dollars this year went to breast cancer research, the red cross and a homeless shelter. I’m sorry if some of us are a little short on charity and compassion when it comes to the “I bought five houses so I could sell them a year later at a huge profit, effectively stealing from another future family and the 100k in profit I’ll make will impact their ability to send their kids to college and my plan didn’t work out” crowd.
temeculaguyParticipantPasadena, you’ll need to have to have some thick skin for some of the posters here, it’s not personal, just let it roll off.
The reason for the lack of compassion is some pent up anger. These good people (investors) were the cause of the pain many buyers here suffered though in the last five years and we received no such compassion when we were priced out or refused to join the insanity, we were ridiculed and demeaned. Look at Dina, she can’t even type but she could buy a couple of homes and helped drive the price beyond where some families could afford it that would have actually made the payments and lived there. Sure I have a little compassion but it is tempered by the fact that she and those like her not only played with matches but they took the whole book of matches preventing some families from being able to light their stove to make dinner.
I cannot defend some comments but there are real people who deserve compassion and charity who suffered calamity and misfortune through no fault of their own. My charity dollars this year went to breast cancer research, the red cross and a homeless shelter. I’m sorry if some of us are a little short on charity and compassion when it comes to the “I bought five houses so I could sell them a year later at a huge profit, effectively stealing from another future family and the 100k in profit I’ll make will impact their ability to send their kids to college and my plan didn’t work out” crowd.
temeculaguyParticipantPasadena, you’ll need to have to have some thick skin for some of the posters here, it’s not personal, just let it roll off.
The reason for the lack of compassion is some pent up anger. These good people (investors) were the cause of the pain many buyers here suffered though in the last five years and we received no such compassion when we were priced out or refused to join the insanity, we were ridiculed and demeaned. Look at Dina, she can’t even type but she could buy a couple of homes and helped drive the price beyond where some families could afford it that would have actually made the payments and lived there. Sure I have a little compassion but it is tempered by the fact that she and those like her not only played with matches but they took the whole book of matches preventing some families from being able to light their stove to make dinner.
I cannot defend some comments but there are real people who deserve compassion and charity who suffered calamity and misfortune through no fault of their own. My charity dollars this year went to breast cancer research, the red cross and a homeless shelter. I’m sorry if some of us are a little short on charity and compassion when it comes to the “I bought five houses so I could sell them a year later at a huge profit, effectively stealing from another future family and the 100k in profit I’ll make will impact their ability to send their kids to college and my plan didn’t work out” crowd.
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