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temeculaguy
Participantsd, I applaud your business model and think you may be on to something big. The internet has allowed buyers to refine their search and many question the need for a full service buyers agent that drives them around, sprinkle in the knuckleheads that crowded your profession and it makes the discerning buyer want to go it alone (which is a bad idea in 90% of the scenarios). I know that i have at least a dozen loyal lurker readers and i’d encourage them to contact you or other longtime piggie realtors who have proven their knowledge over the years. Most piggies should have their deals negotiated for them by someone like yourself and you should be compensated for that service. The service some people require doesn’t fall into the old model and it will be guys like you that end up with the mai tais because you can see it before the rest.
temeculaguy
Participantsd, I applaud your business model and think you may be on to something big. The internet has allowed buyers to refine their search and many question the need for a full service buyers agent that drives them around, sprinkle in the knuckleheads that crowded your profession and it makes the discerning buyer want to go it alone (which is a bad idea in 90% of the scenarios). I know that i have at least a dozen loyal lurker readers and i’d encourage them to contact you or other longtime piggie realtors who have proven their knowledge over the years. Most piggies should have their deals negotiated for them by someone like yourself and you should be compensated for that service. The service some people require doesn’t fall into the old model and it will be guys like you that end up with the mai tais because you can see it before the rest.
temeculaguy
Participantsd, I applaud your business model and think you may be on to something big. The internet has allowed buyers to refine their search and many question the need for a full service buyers agent that drives them around, sprinkle in the knuckleheads that crowded your profession and it makes the discerning buyer want to go it alone (which is a bad idea in 90% of the scenarios). I know that i have at least a dozen loyal lurker readers and i’d encourage them to contact you or other longtime piggie realtors who have proven their knowledge over the years. Most piggies should have their deals negotiated for them by someone like yourself and you should be compensated for that service. The service some people require doesn’t fall into the old model and it will be guys like you that end up with the mai tais because you can see it before the rest.
temeculaguy
ParticipantUrban, content is fine, it’s the delivery. Also don’t try to defend the profession here, it’s a tough audience. I wouldn’t defend anyone that I didn’t know, even if we shared professions, shady comes in every flavor and sispicion isn’t conviction. In fact your explanation was perfect, except the last part, the part that made me, the reader, feel like we weren’t allowed to question things.
Nobody said it was fraud, just that it looked shady to them and where would they report it. If they reported it and it checked out ok, no harm no foul, in fact it vindicates the realtor and in that instance the profession. Also there is nothing wrong with used car salesmen, there are good ones and bad ones, like anything. If I were a good used car salesman, i would encourage the investigation of my peers so the bad ones could be weeded out.
making assertions and accusations is good, in all things, the culprit here is the lack of transparancy of the MLS. Other than lock box codes, the MLS is perpetuating the distrust of the industry, if the OP could see what you see, there would be no suspicion. We are americans, we question our leaders, our government, our doctors and out professionals and nothing but good comes from those questions, it might be a pain, but it’s productive.
And while it may seem like your profession is getting bad rap, it’s because it deserves it, not all of you, but some. They will be weeded out and the true professionals will survive. both Sd and sd realtors have been posting for years here and both have my respect and admiration, I’d drink with them and do business with them if given the opportunity. you are writing to a highly intelligent crowd, don’t worry about us using a broad brush to paint pictures.
temeculaguy
ParticipantUrban, content is fine, it’s the delivery. Also don’t try to defend the profession here, it’s a tough audience. I wouldn’t defend anyone that I didn’t know, even if we shared professions, shady comes in every flavor and sispicion isn’t conviction. In fact your explanation was perfect, except the last part, the part that made me, the reader, feel like we weren’t allowed to question things.
Nobody said it was fraud, just that it looked shady to them and where would they report it. If they reported it and it checked out ok, no harm no foul, in fact it vindicates the realtor and in that instance the profession. Also there is nothing wrong with used car salesmen, there are good ones and bad ones, like anything. If I were a good used car salesman, i would encourage the investigation of my peers so the bad ones could be weeded out.
making assertions and accusations is good, in all things, the culprit here is the lack of transparancy of the MLS. Other than lock box codes, the MLS is perpetuating the distrust of the industry, if the OP could see what you see, there would be no suspicion. We are americans, we question our leaders, our government, our doctors and out professionals and nothing but good comes from those questions, it might be a pain, but it’s productive.
And while it may seem like your profession is getting bad rap, it’s because it deserves it, not all of you, but some. They will be weeded out and the true professionals will survive. both Sd and sd realtors have been posting for years here and both have my respect and admiration, I’d drink with them and do business with them if given the opportunity. you are writing to a highly intelligent crowd, don’t worry about us using a broad brush to paint pictures.
temeculaguy
ParticipantUrban, content is fine, it’s the delivery. Also don’t try to defend the profession here, it’s a tough audience. I wouldn’t defend anyone that I didn’t know, even if we shared professions, shady comes in every flavor and sispicion isn’t conviction. In fact your explanation was perfect, except the last part, the part that made me, the reader, feel like we weren’t allowed to question things.
Nobody said it was fraud, just that it looked shady to them and where would they report it. If they reported it and it checked out ok, no harm no foul, in fact it vindicates the realtor and in that instance the profession. Also there is nothing wrong with used car salesmen, there are good ones and bad ones, like anything. If I were a good used car salesman, i would encourage the investigation of my peers so the bad ones could be weeded out.
making assertions and accusations is good, in all things, the culprit here is the lack of transparancy of the MLS. Other than lock box codes, the MLS is perpetuating the distrust of the industry, if the OP could see what you see, there would be no suspicion. We are americans, we question our leaders, our government, our doctors and out professionals and nothing but good comes from those questions, it might be a pain, but it’s productive.
And while it may seem like your profession is getting bad rap, it’s because it deserves it, not all of you, but some. They will be weeded out and the true professionals will survive. both Sd and sd realtors have been posting for years here and both have my respect and admiration, I’d drink with them and do business with them if given the opportunity. you are writing to a highly intelligent crowd, don’t worry about us using a broad brush to paint pictures.
temeculaguy
ParticipantUrban, content is fine, it’s the delivery. Also don’t try to defend the profession here, it’s a tough audience. I wouldn’t defend anyone that I didn’t know, even if we shared professions, shady comes in every flavor and sispicion isn’t conviction. In fact your explanation was perfect, except the last part, the part that made me, the reader, feel like we weren’t allowed to question things.
Nobody said it was fraud, just that it looked shady to them and where would they report it. If they reported it and it checked out ok, no harm no foul, in fact it vindicates the realtor and in that instance the profession. Also there is nothing wrong with used car salesmen, there are good ones and bad ones, like anything. If I were a good used car salesman, i would encourage the investigation of my peers so the bad ones could be weeded out.
making assertions and accusations is good, in all things, the culprit here is the lack of transparancy of the MLS. Other than lock box codes, the MLS is perpetuating the distrust of the industry, if the OP could see what you see, there would be no suspicion. We are americans, we question our leaders, our government, our doctors and out professionals and nothing but good comes from those questions, it might be a pain, but it’s productive.
And while it may seem like your profession is getting bad rap, it’s because it deserves it, not all of you, but some. They will be weeded out and the true professionals will survive. both Sd and sd realtors have been posting for years here and both have my respect and admiration, I’d drink with them and do business with them if given the opportunity. you are writing to a highly intelligent crowd, don’t worry about us using a broad brush to paint pictures.
temeculaguy
ParticipantUrban, content is fine, it’s the delivery. Also don’t try to defend the profession here, it’s a tough audience. I wouldn’t defend anyone that I didn’t know, even if we shared professions, shady comes in every flavor and sispicion isn’t conviction. In fact your explanation was perfect, except the last part, the part that made me, the reader, feel like we weren’t allowed to question things.
Nobody said it was fraud, just that it looked shady to them and where would they report it. If they reported it and it checked out ok, no harm no foul, in fact it vindicates the realtor and in that instance the profession. Also there is nothing wrong with used car salesmen, there are good ones and bad ones, like anything. If I were a good used car salesman, i would encourage the investigation of my peers so the bad ones could be weeded out.
making assertions and accusations is good, in all things, the culprit here is the lack of transparancy of the MLS. Other than lock box codes, the MLS is perpetuating the distrust of the industry, if the OP could see what you see, there would be no suspicion. We are americans, we question our leaders, our government, our doctors and out professionals and nothing but good comes from those questions, it might be a pain, but it’s productive.
And while it may seem like your profession is getting bad rap, it’s because it deserves it, not all of you, but some. They will be weeded out and the true professionals will survive. both Sd and sd realtors have been posting for years here and both have my respect and admiration, I’d drink with them and do business with them if given the opportunity. you are writing to a highly intelligent crowd, don’t worry about us using a broad brush to paint pictures.
November 12, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Just wondering where all the “Bring it on people” are at #303601temeculaguy
ParticipantIn my true egomaniacal colors, I need you to stop blaming the “pain trainers” as those who wished this on us. I coined that phrase here, and since my world is very small, to me, I coined it everywhere. It was meant as a metaphor for the geographic nature of the bubble burst, from the outside towards the middle. It was to explain how the exhurbs would fall first and the train would eventually pull inot every station (town), just not at the same time.
On the thread content, wishing doesn’t make it happen, evaluating the signs and signals, then taking evasive action is all the pain trainers do. I wished the chargers would have a great season but it didn’t happen, I wished Brady would get hurt and it did happen. So is Brady my fault and Norv Turner my karmatic punishment. It all boild down to reading between the lines and making plans, that’s it.
Side Note SDR, seriously, drink the laker koolaid, I watched the whole game tonight against the hornets and the lakers were on game 2 of back 2 back road games and I am ready to piss off Denny Green and crown their asses.
November 12, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Just wondering where all the “Bring it on people” are at #303962temeculaguy
ParticipantIn my true egomaniacal colors, I need you to stop blaming the “pain trainers” as those who wished this on us. I coined that phrase here, and since my world is very small, to me, I coined it everywhere. It was meant as a metaphor for the geographic nature of the bubble burst, from the outside towards the middle. It was to explain how the exhurbs would fall first and the train would eventually pull inot every station (town), just not at the same time.
On the thread content, wishing doesn’t make it happen, evaluating the signs and signals, then taking evasive action is all the pain trainers do. I wished the chargers would have a great season but it didn’t happen, I wished Brady would get hurt and it did happen. So is Brady my fault and Norv Turner my karmatic punishment. It all boild down to reading between the lines and making plans, that’s it.
Side Note SDR, seriously, drink the laker koolaid, I watched the whole game tonight against the hornets and the lakers were on game 2 of back 2 back road games and I am ready to piss off Denny Green and crown their asses.
November 12, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Just wondering where all the “Bring it on people” are at #303974temeculaguy
ParticipantIn my true egomaniacal colors, I need you to stop blaming the “pain trainers” as those who wished this on us. I coined that phrase here, and since my world is very small, to me, I coined it everywhere. It was meant as a metaphor for the geographic nature of the bubble burst, from the outside towards the middle. It was to explain how the exhurbs would fall first and the train would eventually pull inot every station (town), just not at the same time.
On the thread content, wishing doesn’t make it happen, evaluating the signs and signals, then taking evasive action is all the pain trainers do. I wished the chargers would have a great season but it didn’t happen, I wished Brady would get hurt and it did happen. So is Brady my fault and Norv Turner my karmatic punishment. It all boild down to reading between the lines and making plans, that’s it.
Side Note SDR, seriously, drink the laker koolaid, I watched the whole game tonight against the hornets and the lakers were on game 2 of back 2 back road games and I am ready to piss off Denny Green and crown their asses.
November 12, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Just wondering where all the “Bring it on people” are at #303991temeculaguy
ParticipantIn my true egomaniacal colors, I need you to stop blaming the “pain trainers” as those who wished this on us. I coined that phrase here, and since my world is very small, to me, I coined it everywhere. It was meant as a metaphor for the geographic nature of the bubble burst, from the outside towards the middle. It was to explain how the exhurbs would fall first and the train would eventually pull inot every station (town), just not at the same time.
On the thread content, wishing doesn’t make it happen, evaluating the signs and signals, then taking evasive action is all the pain trainers do. I wished the chargers would have a great season but it didn’t happen, I wished Brady would get hurt and it did happen. So is Brady my fault and Norv Turner my karmatic punishment. It all boild down to reading between the lines and making plans, that’s it.
Side Note SDR, seriously, drink the laker koolaid, I watched the whole game tonight against the hornets and the lakers were on game 2 of back 2 back road games and I am ready to piss off Denny Green and crown their asses.
November 12, 2008 at 11:45 PM in reply to: Just wondering where all the “Bring it on people” are at #304049temeculaguy
ParticipantIn my true egomaniacal colors, I need you to stop blaming the “pain trainers” as those who wished this on us. I coined that phrase here, and since my world is very small, to me, I coined it everywhere. It was meant as a metaphor for the geographic nature of the bubble burst, from the outside towards the middle. It was to explain how the exhurbs would fall first and the train would eventually pull inot every station (town), just not at the same time.
On the thread content, wishing doesn’t make it happen, evaluating the signs and signals, then taking evasive action is all the pain trainers do. I wished the chargers would have a great season but it didn’t happen, I wished Brady would get hurt and it did happen. So is Brady my fault and Norv Turner my karmatic punishment. It all boild down to reading between the lines and making plans, that’s it.
Side Note SDR, seriously, drink the laker koolaid, I watched the whole game tonight against the hornets and the lakers were on game 2 of back 2 back road games and I am ready to piss off Denny Green and crown their asses.
temeculaguy
Participantsd I didn’t want to speak for you but I think I have seen in the past that you have posted there is a cost saving difference or some other thing when the buyer finds it himself and just brings you in for negotiations. I know I have been offered that from a few realtors on this site but wasn’t sure if that was just because they’ve been reading my crap for a few years and it was a favor or if that was available to others. It does make sense to bring in a “ringer” at time of negotiations for a reduced rate. I had planned to do the same and would have with my most recent purchase if I had more than 5 minutes to decide and one of you guys wasn’t so far away and didn’t hate driving up here.
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