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temeculaguy
ParticipantI know it was wordy and maybe I didn’t explain it properly, but the age alone is not a strike, nor is the size, nor is the lack of the hoa. It’s the combination of the three that creates the the problem. It’s like the fire triangle (heat, fuel, oxygen), on their own they are harmless, remove any of the three and you won’t have a fire, combine them and it’s dangerous.
I have no way of disputing your opinion of the new world order or of Southern Californians, because my frame of reference is too finite, I was born here, as were my parents. I have lived in three counties but they were all in so cal, I am what I am and it is what it is, hopefully the Op who had a question will take my reply for what it is, just my opinion, even if it is superficial and shallow. In reality, real estate is about the buyer and the market, and many of the buyers are like me, right or wrong, democratic or republican, fruits or nuts, most buyers of southern california real estate are southern californians and it is important to understand them even if you aren’t one of them.
paramount, I agree with you more often than not, and bills do wear people down (i would love to trade, I’ve always maintained that you have an eviable financial situation and are way too hard on yourself because youy live well within your means, btw), but the question posed was about the comparison of two master planned developments and I did my best to compare and contrast them. I refuse to take responsibility for expressing my opinions and preferences, I give them freely and everyone is entitled to a full refund if they dont like them, I should be taken with a grain of salt if not a full shaker.
If anyone lives in vail and takes offense, my apologies, it’s still a damn nice place, but when asked to compare it, I cant help myself.
ParticipantI know it was wordy and maybe I didn’t explain it properly, but the age alone is not a strike, nor is the size, nor is the lack of the hoa. It’s the combination of the three that creates the the problem. It’s like the fire triangle (heat, fuel, oxygen), on their own they are harmless, remove any of the three and you won’t have a fire, combine them and it’s dangerous.
I have no way of disputing your opinion of the new world order or of Southern Californians, because my frame of reference is too finite, I was born here, as were my parents. I have lived in three counties but they were all in so cal, I am what I am and it is what it is, hopefully the Op who had a question will take my reply for what it is, just my opinion, even if it is superficial and shallow. In reality, real estate is about the buyer and the market, and many of the buyers are like me, right or wrong, democratic or republican, fruits or nuts, most buyers of southern california real estate are southern californians and it is important to understand them even if you aren’t one of them.
paramount, I agree with you more often than not, and bills do wear people down (i would love to trade, I’ve always maintained that you have an eviable financial situation and are way too hard on yourself because youy live well within your means, btw), but the question posed was about the comparison of two master planned developments and I did my best to compare and contrast them. I refuse to take responsibility for expressing my opinions and preferences, I give them freely and everyone is entitled to a full refund if they dont like them, I should be taken with a grain of salt if not a full shaker.
If anyone lives in vail and takes offense, my apologies, it’s still a damn nice place, but when asked to compare it, I cant help myself.
ParticipantI know it was wordy and maybe I didn’t explain it properly, but the age alone is not a strike, nor is the size, nor is the lack of the hoa. It’s the combination of the three that creates the the problem. It’s like the fire triangle (heat, fuel, oxygen), on their own they are harmless, remove any of the three and you won’t have a fire, combine them and it’s dangerous.
I have no way of disputing your opinion of the new world order or of Southern Californians, because my frame of reference is too finite, I was born here, as were my parents. I have lived in three counties but they were all in so cal, I am what I am and it is what it is, hopefully the Op who had a question will take my reply for what it is, just my opinion, even if it is superficial and shallow. In reality, real estate is about the buyer and the market, and many of the buyers are like me, right or wrong, democratic or republican, fruits or nuts, most buyers of southern california real estate are southern californians and it is important to understand them even if you aren’t one of them.
paramount, I agree with you more often than not, and bills do wear people down (i would love to trade, I’ve always maintained that you have an eviable financial situation and are way too hard on yourself because youy live well within your means, btw), but the question posed was about the comparison of two master planned developments and I did my best to compare and contrast them. I refuse to take responsibility for expressing my opinions and preferences, I give them freely and everyone is entitled to a full refund if they dont like them, I should be taken with a grain of salt if not a full shaker.
If anyone lives in vail and takes offense, my apologies, it’s still a damn nice place, but when asked to compare it, I cant help myself.
ParticipantSD, I like the phrase “come in strong and come in fast.”
Funny how what was happening up here eventually spreads. In December of 2008, I called it “Fast and Furious” as evidenced by this
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Since your catch phrase didn’t deviate more than 15% from mine, cut me in on the royalties or if somehow your phrase is quoted in the main stream media I can be completely bought off by meeting Diana Olick, even fully clothed, once we are discovered and become celebrities, I see this happening, let’s vow now not to fight all “beatles” style and break up over money and credit.
ParticipantSD, I like the phrase “come in strong and come in fast.”
Funny how what was happening up here eventually spreads. In December of 2008, I called it “Fast and Furious” as evidenced by this
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Since your catch phrase didn’t deviate more than 15% from mine, cut me in on the royalties or if somehow your phrase is quoted in the main stream media I can be completely bought off by meeting Diana Olick, even fully clothed, once we are discovered and become celebrities, I see this happening, let’s vow now not to fight all “beatles” style and break up over money and credit.
ParticipantSD, I like the phrase “come in strong and come in fast.”
Funny how what was happening up here eventually spreads. In December of 2008, I called it “Fast and Furious” as evidenced by this
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Since your catch phrase didn’t deviate more than 15% from mine, cut me in on the royalties or if somehow your phrase is quoted in the main stream media I can be completely bought off by meeting Diana Olick, even fully clothed, once we are discovered and become celebrities, I see this happening, let’s vow now not to fight all “beatles” style and break up over money and credit.
ParticipantSD, I like the phrase “come in strong and come in fast.”
Funny how what was happening up here eventually spreads. In December of 2008, I called it “Fast and Furious” as evidenced by this
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Since your catch phrase didn’t deviate more than 15% from mine, cut me in on the royalties or if somehow your phrase is quoted in the main stream media I can be completely bought off by meeting Diana Olick, even fully clothed, once we are discovered and become celebrities, I see this happening, let’s vow now not to fight all “beatles” style and break up over money and credit.
ParticipantSD, I like the phrase “come in strong and come in fast.”
Funny how what was happening up here eventually spreads. In December of 2008, I called it “Fast and Furious” as evidenced by this
http://piggington.com/tg_closes_escrow
Since your catch phrase didn’t deviate more than 15% from mine, cut me in on the royalties or if somehow your phrase is quoted in the main stream media I can be completely bought off by meeting Diana Olick, even fully clothed, once we are discovered and become celebrities, I see this happening, let’s vow now not to fight all “beatles” style and break up over money and credit.
ParticipantCool Cbad, I had almost the exact same experience but in reverse, I helped a friend’s daughter with the harvest and my reward was wine. To be quite honest, pretty damn good wine. One of my best friends lives there and planted vines recently but he’s not yet producing. About two years ago the board of supervisors created a special permit zone that paved the way for future tasting rooms with minimal hoops to jump through. It will take years for it to get established but it very well could affect the scenery and demographics. Actually if you go to sandags website, the demographics will suprise you. Of the unincorporated areas, it has the highest income per household. Higher than Fallbrook, Alpine, Valley Center and the rest, In Vino Veritas.
ParticipantCool Cbad, I had almost the exact same experience but in reverse, I helped a friend’s daughter with the harvest and my reward was wine. To be quite honest, pretty damn good wine. One of my best friends lives there and planted vines recently but he’s not yet producing. About two years ago the board of supervisors created a special permit zone that paved the way for future tasting rooms with minimal hoops to jump through. It will take years for it to get established but it very well could affect the scenery and demographics. Actually if you go to sandags website, the demographics will suprise you. Of the unincorporated areas, it has the highest income per household. Higher than Fallbrook, Alpine, Valley Center and the rest, In Vino Veritas.
ParticipantCool Cbad, I had almost the exact same experience but in reverse, I helped a friend’s daughter with the harvest and my reward was wine. To be quite honest, pretty damn good wine. One of my best friends lives there and planted vines recently but he’s not yet producing. About two years ago the board of supervisors created a special permit zone that paved the way for future tasting rooms with minimal hoops to jump through. It will take years for it to get established but it very well could affect the scenery and demographics. Actually if you go to sandags website, the demographics will suprise you. Of the unincorporated areas, it has the highest income per household. Higher than Fallbrook, Alpine, Valley Center and the rest, In Vino Veritas.
ParticipantCool Cbad, I had almost the exact same experience but in reverse, I helped a friend’s daughter with the harvest and my reward was wine. To be quite honest, pretty damn good wine. One of my best friends lives there and planted vines recently but he’s not yet producing. About two years ago the board of supervisors created a special permit zone that paved the way for future tasting rooms with minimal hoops to jump through. It will take years for it to get established but it very well could affect the scenery and demographics. Actually if you go to sandags website, the demographics will suprise you. Of the unincorporated areas, it has the highest income per household. Higher than Fallbrook, Alpine, Valley Center and the rest, In Vino Veritas.
ParticipantCool Cbad, I had almost the exact same experience but in reverse, I helped a friend’s daughter with the harvest and my reward was wine. To be quite honest, pretty damn good wine. One of my best friends lives there and planted vines recently but he’s not yet producing. About two years ago the board of supervisors created a special permit zone that paved the way for future tasting rooms with minimal hoops to jump through. It will take years for it to get established but it very well could affect the scenery and demographics. Actually if you go to sandags website, the demographics will suprise you. Of the unincorporated areas, it has the highest income per household. Higher than Fallbrook, Alpine, Valley Center and the rest, In Vino Veritas.
ParticipantDude, don’t be a hater, Ramona is cool, well the estates are cool. They are also the most recent viticultural region accepted into the state, the grapes are growing, who knows, maybe it’s the next wine country.
It’s cheaper, it actually has the lowest crime rate in the county (confirmed by sandag) and has for years. Everyone is different, but it’s kinda like being in the midwest a little, without actually having to go there. Getting there blows, it’s very low on the single hot-chick-o-meter, but some people want to get away and the crazy horse ladies got to live somewhere.
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