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svelteParticipantThanks all.
I wrote the above early in the morning, I obviously used incorrect wording. Much simpler than a partnership, helping a sibling through a rough patch…
I took your advice and talked to my lawyer. They will help should they decide to proceed with this – should be a piece of cake.
Thanks again.
svelteParticipant[quote=spdrun]The water will flow downhill, so pumps aren’t really needed.[/quote]
I think it is the uphill part that would require a pump…to get the water out of the lake, up and over the dam…then it would be downhill.
svelteParticipantA lot more than Oroville is being evacuated:
” The Yuba County Office of Emergency Services asked residents in the valley floor, including Marysville, a city of 12,000 people, to evacuate and take routes to the east, south, or west and avoid traveling north toward Oroville.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/water-flow-slowing-over-emergency-spillway-tallest-us-204732388.html
“OROVILLE, Butte County — Butte County residents near Lake Oroville, including the entire town of Oroville and nearby regions, were ordered to evacuate Sunday evening after the emergency spillway next to the reservoir’s dam suffered a possible structural failure, officials said.
“There has been severe erosion of the emergency spillway and a possible structural breach that could send uncontrolled water down the stream,” said Chris Orrock, a spokesman with the California Department of Water Resources.Residents downstream from Lake Oroville to the Sutter County line were under mandatory evacuation order. Counties around the reservoir, the second largest in the state, down to Sacramento were warned about the possibility of flooding.
Department of Water Resources officials issued a statement just before 4:45 p.m. that the “auxiliary spillway at the dam was predicted to fail within the hour.”
“Traffic was bumper to bumper as residents of Oroville, Biggs and Gridley headed slowly out of the possible flood zone eastbound on Highway 162.
“This is very serious,” said Scott McClean, a spokesman with the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection who was in the evacuation traffic. “From what I understand it’s the auxiliary spillway at a point of possible collapse. I’m just trying to get through traffic.”This is serious shit. Luckily the dam proper is not threatened, but still plenty of damage possible from collapse of the emergency spillway…
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svelteParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]”fat, drunk (on power) and stupid is no way to go thru life, son.”[/quote]
Love it! Animal House quote!
Of course, we have to tack on to the end of that statement “but you could end up President that way!”
svelteParticipantGreat analysis here…
https://www.metabunk.org/oroville-dam-spillway-failure.t8381/
from the looks of the bedrock shown, looks like we are far from disaster.
svelteParticipant[quote=svelte]
The most common story I heard about the 1950s levee breach in Marysville proper was that everyone thought the levee was going to break in Yuba City (the two cities are on opposite sides of the river). Car dealers moved their new cars from YC to Marysville. Everyone evacuated YC. Then the levee broke in Marysville. Oy.
[/quote]I have it backwards – everyone evacuated ppl/cars to YC from Marysville in 1955…then the levee broke in YC. I should have remembered that, I’ve been in homes where the 1955 water line is still visible in closets in homes in YC. At the top of the closet.
svelteParticipant[quote=no_such_reality]Do you think they’d say ‘we screwed the pooch’, even if did?
[/quote]Probably not right away, but there would be a time when they would start evacuating folks. That happened in the 1980s. As I recall, the levee broke at night in the Marysville suburb of Linda.
The most common story I heard about the 1950s levee breach in Marysville proper was that everyone thought the levee was going to break in Yuba City (the two cities are on opposite sides of the river). Car dealers moved their new cars from YC to Marysville. Everyone evacuated YC. Then the levee broke in Marysville. Oy.
It is quite a sight to see when the water rises so high it is at the crest of the levee on both sides of the river. Gives me goosebumps. I go fill my gas tank.
svelteParticipant[quote=no_such_reality]
What happens when that spillway is gone from the top break to the bottom of the spillway and basically carved out like a flat wall?
[/quote]Yeah, I’m pretty concerned that all of the hill downstream could erode away, then the erosion slowly works it way upstream.
As that happened more and more, less hillside would buttress the main earth dam and well you know what could happen when the weight of the water behind the dam overrules the buttress.
Still unlikely I would think, but if it keeps raining…
svelteParticipant[quote=svelte] SoCal folks don’t even talk about Oroville Dam, but that is a magnificent creation. Shasta and Oroville Dams do an enormous amount to protect everything downstream including Sac and bay areas.
[/quote]Problems at Oroville – the spillway is collapsing.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Oroville-Dam-spillway-hole-erosion-water-reservoir-10920358.php
The water is still rising and expected to go over the Emergency Spillway (unpaved) by Saturday.
We’re in uncharted territory here as that spillway has never been used.
svelteParticipantThe answer is easy if you take it logically.
I’d like to help you in your struggle to be free.
There must be fifty ways to leave your teacher.Slip out the back, Jack. Make a new plan, Stan. Don’t be coy, Roy, just listen to me.
Hop on the bus, Gus. You don’t need to discuss much – just drop off the key, Lee, and get yourself free.
February 6, 2017 at 6:27 PM in reply to: When should you cancel a life insurance policy, if at all? #805398svelteParticipantIt’s probably not your decision, flu. It’s your wife’s. She would be the one using it, not you.
About a decade ago I considered ditching my policy too. I mentioned it to my wife. She said that we could – but that would change the direction of our life as she would change to being risk adverse…new cars, new home purchases, etc would not occur. She would have to protect herself by making less risky decisions.
So we kept the policy.
And didn’t you have a major health issue a few years back? To me, that’s reason enough to keep the policy.
svelteParticipantI’ve always thought the “cell phones off” rule was probably kept in place to keep people from being annoying on phones, talking way too loud and irritating other passengers. It is passed off as a safety rule to get people to comply.
Maybe a point in time long ago it was safety related, but that issue has no doubt long since been resolved.
svelteParticipantThe problem with the article is that you could say the same thing about any marketplace – not just stocks!
Used cars, house prices, anything that matches buyers and sellers.
We all constantly talk about the equity in our house. That’s no more than potential $$ based on what someone else paid for a similar house recently.
svelteParticipant[quote=flu]
I just think this entire thing is so surreal, it’s almost comical if it weren’t for the fact that real people are being impacted by this…..[/quote]
I certainly agree. I want to laugh but I just can’t…what is happening is too painful.
I’ll be okay, but that’s not the point at all. There are people who have made long term plans, toiled for countless hours, who are going to see that effort marginalized if not destroyed completely. And splitting families up – it just crushes me.
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