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While it’s true that many cars now come standard with DRLs, some of us actually mannually turn them on, me being one fo them. I have been turning on my lights mannually for at least 20 years.
Studies have been done that seem to indicate having DRLs improve safety.
Here’s a link to wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp
and here’s what it said about them in the US.
General Motors, interested in reducing the build variations of cars for the North American market, began lobbying the DOT (United States Department of Transportation) to permit DRLs in the United States shortly after Canada required them. A prolonged regulatory battle was fought, with the DOT objecting on grounds of potential safety drawbacks and glare issues. Eventually, however, these objections were set aside and DRLs of the same types allowed in Canada (save for fog lamp DRLs) were legalized but not mandated effective with the 1995 model year. General Motors immediately equipped most (and, in following years, all) of its vehicles with DRLs beginning with the Chevrolet Corsica. Saab, Volkswagen, Volvo, Suzuki and Subaru gradually introduced DRLs in the U.S. market beginning in 1995. In recent years, Lexus has installed high-beam or turn signal based DRLs on US models. Some Toyota models come with DRLs as standard or optional equipment, and with a driver-controllable on/off switch. Starting in the 2006 model year, Honda began equipping their U.S. models with DRLs, mostly by reduced-intensity operation of the high beam headlamps.
Public reaction to DRLs, generally neutral to positive in Canada, is decidedly mixed in the U.S. Thousands of complaints regarding glare from DRLs were lodged with the DOT shortly after DRLs were permitted on cars, and there was also concern that headlamp-based DRLs reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and that DRLs based on front turn signals introduce ambiguity into the turn signal system. In 1997, in response to these complaints and after measuring actual DRL intensity well above the 7,000 cd limit on vehicles in use, DOT proposed changes to the DRL specification that would have capped axial intensity at 1,500 candelas, a level nearly identical to the European 1,200 cd and identical to the initially-proposed Canadian limit. During the open comment period, thousands of public comments were received by DOT in support of lowering the intensity (or advocating the complete elimination of DRLs from U.S. roads). Automaker sentiment generally ran along predictable lines, with European automakers experienced at complying with European DRL requirements voicing no objection to the proposal, and North American automakers vociferously repeating the same objections they raised in response to Canada’s initial proposal. The DOT proposal for DRL intensity reduction was rescinded in 2004.
SDWranglersParticipantWhile it’s true that many cars now come standard with DRLs, some of us actually mannually turn them on, me being one fo them. I have been turning on my lights mannually for at least 20 years.
Studies have been done that seem to indicate having DRLs improve safety.
Here’s a link to wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp
and here’s what it said about them in the US.
General Motors, interested in reducing the build variations of cars for the North American market, began lobbying the DOT (United States Department of Transportation) to permit DRLs in the United States shortly after Canada required them. A prolonged regulatory battle was fought, with the DOT objecting on grounds of potential safety drawbacks and glare issues. Eventually, however, these objections were set aside and DRLs of the same types allowed in Canada (save for fog lamp DRLs) were legalized but not mandated effective with the 1995 model year. General Motors immediately equipped most (and, in following years, all) of its vehicles with DRLs beginning with the Chevrolet Corsica. Saab, Volkswagen, Volvo, Suzuki and Subaru gradually introduced DRLs in the U.S. market beginning in 1995. In recent years, Lexus has installed high-beam or turn signal based DRLs on US models. Some Toyota models come with DRLs as standard or optional equipment, and with a driver-controllable on/off switch. Starting in the 2006 model year, Honda began equipping their U.S. models with DRLs, mostly by reduced-intensity operation of the high beam headlamps.
Public reaction to DRLs, generally neutral to positive in Canada, is decidedly mixed in the U.S. Thousands of complaints regarding glare from DRLs were lodged with the DOT shortly after DRLs were permitted on cars, and there was also concern that headlamp-based DRLs reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and that DRLs based on front turn signals introduce ambiguity into the turn signal system. In 1997, in response to these complaints and after measuring actual DRL intensity well above the 7,000 cd limit on vehicles in use, DOT proposed changes to the DRL specification that would have capped axial intensity at 1,500 candelas, a level nearly identical to the European 1,200 cd and identical to the initially-proposed Canadian limit. During the open comment period, thousands of public comments were received by DOT in support of lowering the intensity (or advocating the complete elimination of DRLs from U.S. roads). Automaker sentiment generally ran along predictable lines, with European automakers experienced at complying with European DRL requirements voicing no objection to the proposal, and North American automakers vociferously repeating the same objections they raised in response to Canada’s initial proposal. The DOT proposal for DRL intensity reduction was rescinded in 2004.
SDWranglersParticipantWhile it’s true that many cars now come standard with DRLs, some of us actually mannually turn them on, me being one fo them. I have been turning on my lights mannually for at least 20 years.
Studies have been done that seem to indicate having DRLs improve safety.
Here’s a link to wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp
and here’s what it said about them in the US.
General Motors, interested in reducing the build variations of cars for the North American market, began lobbying the DOT (United States Department of Transportation) to permit DRLs in the United States shortly after Canada required them. A prolonged regulatory battle was fought, with the DOT objecting on grounds of potential safety drawbacks and glare issues. Eventually, however, these objections were set aside and DRLs of the same types allowed in Canada (save for fog lamp DRLs) were legalized but not mandated effective with the 1995 model year. General Motors immediately equipped most (and, in following years, all) of its vehicles with DRLs beginning with the Chevrolet Corsica. Saab, Volkswagen, Volvo, Suzuki and Subaru gradually introduced DRLs in the U.S. market beginning in 1995. In recent years, Lexus has installed high-beam or turn signal based DRLs on US models. Some Toyota models come with DRLs as standard or optional equipment, and with a driver-controllable on/off switch. Starting in the 2006 model year, Honda began equipping their U.S. models with DRLs, mostly by reduced-intensity operation of the high beam headlamps.
Public reaction to DRLs, generally neutral to positive in Canada, is decidedly mixed in the U.S. Thousands of complaints regarding glare from DRLs were lodged with the DOT shortly after DRLs were permitted on cars, and there was also concern that headlamp-based DRLs reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and that DRLs based on front turn signals introduce ambiguity into the turn signal system. In 1997, in response to these complaints and after measuring actual DRL intensity well above the 7,000 cd limit on vehicles in use, DOT proposed changes to the DRL specification that would have capped axial intensity at 1,500 candelas, a level nearly identical to the European 1,200 cd and identical to the initially-proposed Canadian limit. During the open comment period, thousands of public comments were received by DOT in support of lowering the intensity (or advocating the complete elimination of DRLs from U.S. roads). Automaker sentiment generally ran along predictable lines, with European automakers experienced at complying with European DRL requirements voicing no objection to the proposal, and North American automakers vociferously repeating the same objections they raised in response to Canada’s initial proposal. The DOT proposal for DRL intensity reduction was rescinded in 2004.
SDWranglersParticipantWhile it’s true that many cars now come standard with DRLs, some of us actually mannually turn them on, me being one fo them. I have been turning on my lights mannually for at least 20 years.
Studies have been done that seem to indicate having DRLs improve safety.
Here’s a link to wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp
and here’s what it said about them in the US.
General Motors, interested in reducing the build variations of cars for the North American market, began lobbying the DOT (United States Department of Transportation) to permit DRLs in the United States shortly after Canada required them. A prolonged regulatory battle was fought, with the DOT objecting on grounds of potential safety drawbacks and glare issues. Eventually, however, these objections were set aside and DRLs of the same types allowed in Canada (save for fog lamp DRLs) were legalized but not mandated effective with the 1995 model year. General Motors immediately equipped most (and, in following years, all) of its vehicles with DRLs beginning with the Chevrolet Corsica. Saab, Volkswagen, Volvo, Suzuki and Subaru gradually introduced DRLs in the U.S. market beginning in 1995. In recent years, Lexus has installed high-beam or turn signal based DRLs on US models. Some Toyota models come with DRLs as standard or optional equipment, and with a driver-controllable on/off switch. Starting in the 2006 model year, Honda began equipping their U.S. models with DRLs, mostly by reduced-intensity operation of the high beam headlamps.
Public reaction to DRLs, generally neutral to positive in Canada, is decidedly mixed in the U.S. Thousands of complaints regarding glare from DRLs were lodged with the DOT shortly after DRLs were permitted on cars, and there was also concern that headlamp-based DRLs reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and that DRLs based on front turn signals introduce ambiguity into the turn signal system. In 1997, in response to these complaints and after measuring actual DRL intensity well above the 7,000 cd limit on vehicles in use, DOT proposed changes to the DRL specification that would have capped axial intensity at 1,500 candelas, a level nearly identical to the European 1,200 cd and identical to the initially-proposed Canadian limit. During the open comment period, thousands of public comments were received by DOT in support of lowering the intensity (or advocating the complete elimination of DRLs from U.S. roads). Automaker sentiment generally ran along predictable lines, with European automakers experienced at complying with European DRL requirements voicing no objection to the proposal, and North American automakers vociferously repeating the same objections they raised in response to Canada’s initial proposal. The DOT proposal for DRL intensity reduction was rescinded in 2004.
March 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM in reply to: Union Square Condo – Mission Valley – 7735 Hazard Center Dr #374177SDWranglersParticipantI actually wanted to go look at it. By the time I contacted my agent on Friday afternoon, it was already under contract.
So yup, it did get scooped up quickly.
March 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM in reply to: Union Square Condo – Mission Valley – 7735 Hazard Center Dr #374795SDWranglersParticipantI actually wanted to go look at it. By the time I contacted my agent on Friday afternoon, it was already under contract.
So yup, it did get scooped up quickly.
March 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM in reply to: Union Square Condo – Mission Valley – 7735 Hazard Center Dr #374674SDWranglersParticipantI actually wanted to go look at it. By the time I contacted my agent on Friday afternoon, it was already under contract.
So yup, it did get scooped up quickly.
March 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM in reply to: Union Square Condo – Mission Valley – 7735 Hazard Center Dr #374631SDWranglersParticipantI actually wanted to go look at it. By the time I contacted my agent on Friday afternoon, it was already under contract.
So yup, it did get scooped up quickly.
March 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM in reply to: Union Square Condo – Mission Valley – 7735 Hazard Center Dr #374458SDWranglersParticipantI actually wanted to go look at it. By the time I contacted my agent on Friday afternoon, it was already under contract.
So yup, it did get scooped up quickly.
SDWranglersParticipantI checked them out over the weekend. They start at $399K for one bedrooms and go up from there. I looked at 1700+ sq ft model, 2bd/2bth that was very nicely done, corner unit with wrap around balcony for $800K+. This was the best layout by far. The bathrooms in all the units are massive.
Smaller 2bd were in the $400-600K range.
You should check them out if they are in your price range. Nice staff.
I’m not an expert by any means, but I think they are over priced.
SDWranglersParticipantI checked them out over the weekend. They start at $399K for one bedrooms and go up from there. I looked at 1700+ sq ft model, 2bd/2bth that was very nicely done, corner unit with wrap around balcony for $800K+. This was the best layout by far. The bathrooms in all the units are massive.
Smaller 2bd were in the $400-600K range.
You should check them out if they are in your price range. Nice staff.
I’m not an expert by any means, but I think they are over priced.
SDWranglersParticipantI checked them out over the weekend. They start at $399K for one bedrooms and go up from there. I looked at 1700+ sq ft model, 2bd/2bth that was very nicely done, corner unit with wrap around balcony for $800K+. This was the best layout by far. The bathrooms in all the units are massive.
Smaller 2bd were in the $400-600K range.
You should check them out if they are in your price range. Nice staff.
I’m not an expert by any means, but I think they are over priced.
SDWranglersParticipantI checked them out over the weekend. They start at $399K for one bedrooms and go up from there. I looked at 1700+ sq ft model, 2bd/2bth that was very nicely done, corner unit with wrap around balcony for $800K+. This was the best layout by far. The bathrooms in all the units are massive.
Smaller 2bd were in the $400-600K range.
You should check them out if they are in your price range. Nice staff.
I’m not an expert by any means, but I think they are over priced.
SDWranglersParticipantI checked them out over the weekend. They start at $399K for one bedrooms and go up from there. I looked at 1700+ sq ft model, 2bd/2bth that was very nicely done, corner unit with wrap around balcony for $800K+. This was the best layout by far. The bathrooms in all the units are massive.
Smaller 2bd were in the $400-600K range.
You should check them out if they are in your price range. Nice staff.
I’m not an expert by any means, but I think they are over priced.
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