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ParticipantBut wait there’s more! how is the rental market? How many houses with 3+ bedrooms are available/ Lets compare
St George Population 106,000
Carlsbad Population 114,000
St George has 52 available and only one is above $4k. Many are vacant new builds sitting empty
Carlsbad has 8 available of which 3 are large estates for $18K or more so basically there are 5!
One place seems to be a speculative mess while the other has excessive demand
sdrealtor
ParticipantAbsolutely. Its a disaster in Utah. Home prices have risen to the point where affordability suck and incomes are awful. Its one of the least affordable places in the country and you have to live in Utah
Enjoy this lovely sampling of local Utah news
https://www.yahoo.com/news/unaffordable-housing-utah-no-1-014401780.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/utah-housing-prices-stable-but-unaffordable/
And some data
St George
https://www.redfin.com/city/16751/UT/St-George/housing-market
Housing prices have gone nowhere for 3 years
July 2022 Median $542,450
July 2025 Median $550,000
Current Median days on market 49
San Diego
https://www.redfin.com/city/16904/CA/San-Diego/housing-market
July 2022 Median $872,500
July 2025 Median $935,000
Current median days on market 32
People are leaving now.
You sure showed us!!! ROTFLMAO
sdrealtor
ParticipantNot all of them ☺️
The failure rate has always been well above 80% within the first few years.
but I think many experience agents will also. I’ve been talking about this for a while. The volume of sales dried up a few years ago. A lot of agents are just barely hanging on hoping it will come back, but it’s not going to anytime soon. The NAR Settlement will be the nail in the coffin for many. I am bombarded with constant information of how to deal with it, but it is constantly changing, It barely makes sense and it really doesn’t address what is going on. There is a ton of denial going on out there. I have some agent Friends, I’ve been trying to smack into reality and they just can’t see that everything is about to Change. The way agents interact with each other, and the cooperation that has existed for decades is about to disappear. It will be a race to the bottom, and I can’t say who the winners will be. Certainly not the agents and I don’t think the consumer will be either. An entire industry, and And business model has been ruled illegal with no replacement. It’s going to be interesting to watch and I’m happy to have spent 25 years, putting myself in position not to be dependent upon any of this
sdrealtor
Participantsdrealtor
ParticipantI didn’t say 10%. I said MORE than 10%. Using an arbitrary 5 year period is cherry picking. Using the most current data? Not so much. Here you go. A link to actual data, something you rarely if ever seem to provide. It dropped from 556k to 500k in one month just over 10%
https://www.redfin.com/city/16751/UT/St-George/housing-market
The graph clearly shows a market that peaked two years ago and is trending down. SD is still trending up
sdrealtor
ParticipantBy the way, nice job cherry picking stats for an arbitrary five year window. Yes, our real estate soared in prices those five years. Many of the losers left. Yes, work from home became a thing after the pandemic and some folks move back home to cheaper housing. Too bad they’re all being called back to work and are going to have to come back or find a new job. The future is so bright here I wear Sunglasses at night
sdrealtor
ParticipantNice stats. Meanwhile Arizona, Texas, Florida, Idaho and yes Utah too home price’s are sliding. Quickly
median home price in St. George dropped more than 10% from April to May. Yikes!!!
sdrealtor
ParticipantWhat does 113 degrees even feel like? Does it hurt?
sdrealtor
ParticipantRoughly the fourth anniversary of the original sell everything now post and it continues to look worse and worse. It was said time will tell and time has not told, it has slammed the door.
My combined brokerage accounts including CD’s, muni, etf’s equities etc finished out 2023 up 47%. Year to date in 2024 Im up 32%. I hope davelj is comfortable in his Mexican foxhole while the rest of us have enjoyed one of the greatest bull runs of our lifetimes.
sdrealtor
ParticipantThis is an easy one. The best time to sell is March, April and May. That is when the strongest and most active buyers and competition is out there. Sellers usually think it is June but the market is already greatly slow down by then. One of my friends has an incredible listing that would’ve sold with multiple offers. Had they listed it a month Earlier. Now it is languishing on the market because they waited until June when people are already turning their attention to vacations. Things get a little bit better in September but if I could wait, I would wait until March or April.
sdrealtor
ParticipantIm still here and I still run my numbers each week but have been too busy to post them. I actually just ran them and was texting back and forth with AN about them.
The two areas I have been following for years are starting to diverge a bit. Mira Mesa has been remarkably strong. Inventory climbed just a bit but is now declining again. Prices are rising at a decent clip this year. Flippers are doing well there and market seems very strong up to 1.2 with some nice properties selling above that. 3 Roots resales are slowly coming on the market. I beleive MM is in a great spot and has room to grow as it continues gentrifying.
Up along the NCC inventory is building especially in Encinitas. I dont think I have ever seen more prime older properties on the market. Prices are very high as it has become a bit of a glamour town. There are more homes for sale in 92024 than 92009/92011 combined by a good margin. There are a bunch of older homes on the market that were owned for decades. I think we are seeing a bit of boomer liquidation combined with Prop19 eliminating the ability to pass a prime free and clear beach property down to heirs with the old tax basis. The two Carlsbad zips have a bit more inventory also but nothing like Encinitas.
sdrealtor
ParticipantYou will get reassessed on the value it adds. The original portion of the property will continue to be assessed how it was
sdrealtor
ParticipantI cant beleive people out there dont do this? Its not that much and is one of the best final gifts you can leave to your heirs. Having been through it all with my mom’s passing 5 years ago it made all the difference in the world.
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