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August 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM in reply to: A close friend/relative wants to borrow money. What do you do? #597605August 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM in reply to: A close friend/relative wants to borrow money. What do you do? #598151
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ParticipantCDMAEng – cool perspective. Never thought of it that way before. I’m trying to think, now, if there is anyone I need to loan money to.
By the way, this thread is 2 years old.
August 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM in reply to: A close friend/relative wants to borrow money. What do you do? #598258sdduuuude
ParticipantCDMAEng – cool perspective. Never thought of it that way before. I’m trying to think, now, if there is anyone I need to loan money to.
By the way, this thread is 2 years old.
August 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM in reply to: A close friend/relative wants to borrow money. What do you do? #598578sdduuuude
ParticipantCDMAEng – cool perspective. Never thought of it that way before. I’m trying to think, now, if there is anyone I need to loan money to.
By the way, this thread is 2 years old.
August 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM in reply to: OT: Pest control: is it necessary to get the yearly deal versus do it yourselve, how about do nothing ? #596970sdduuuude
ParticipantI had some friends spray for black widows this year also. Possible it is one of those things where this year it is black widows due to the weather or something. If you haven’t had them in previous years, I would guess that the 1-time cleaning would do the trick.
Termites, on the other hand, I like the idea of the annual thing.
August 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM in reply to: OT: Pest control: is it necessary to get the yearly deal versus do it yourselve, how about do nothing ? #597064sdduuuude
ParticipantI had some friends spray for black widows this year also. Possible it is one of those things where this year it is black widows due to the weather or something. If you haven’t had them in previous years, I would guess that the 1-time cleaning would do the trick.
Termites, on the other hand, I like the idea of the annual thing.
August 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM in reply to: OT: Pest control: is it necessary to get the yearly deal versus do it yourselve, how about do nothing ? #597609sdduuuude
ParticipantI had some friends spray for black widows this year also. Possible it is one of those things where this year it is black widows due to the weather or something. If you haven’t had them in previous years, I would guess that the 1-time cleaning would do the trick.
Termites, on the other hand, I like the idea of the annual thing.
August 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM in reply to: OT: Pest control: is it necessary to get the yearly deal versus do it yourselve, how about do nothing ? #597717sdduuuude
ParticipantI had some friends spray for black widows this year also. Possible it is one of those things where this year it is black widows due to the weather or something. If you haven’t had them in previous years, I would guess that the 1-time cleaning would do the trick.
Termites, on the other hand, I like the idea of the annual thing.
August 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM in reply to: OT: Pest control: is it necessary to get the yearly deal versus do it yourselve, how about do nothing ? #598038sdduuuude
ParticipantI had some friends spray for black widows this year also. Possible it is one of those things where this year it is black widows due to the weather or something. If you haven’t had them in previous years, I would guess that the 1-time cleaning would do the trick.
Termites, on the other hand, I like the idea of the annual thing.
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Participant[quote=sdrealtor]DZ
I never said anything about2000 nominal prices causing a depression so that one isnt mine. I dont think we will see them in the better areas except on very high end properties but that is another matter.The sarcasm is because, every time something like this appears in the news a bunch of posters show up with the I told you so’s and the same tired arguments. Each of these arguments look great on paper and have for quite a while but what looks good on paper and what happens on the streets are not the same. I look at it all with skepticism, both the good news and the bad news. Right down the middle with a stagnant economy is where we have been and where we are headed.
My post summing it all up was to save everyone from posting the same stuff that they have been for years.[/quote]
Saying the government is going to kick the can down the road is a way to be right until you are dead wrong.
I’m not saying it’s gonna happen this year or next or the next, but eventually you get to the end of the road, or you kick the can off a cliff.
Just the opposite is always expecting doom – you are always wrong until suddenly you are correct and look like a genius. Predicting 5 of the last 2 recessions makes one 2-3, not 2-0.
I’m not sure if I’d give you 8-0. You explicitly called for a non-bounce that ended up being a definitive bounce π Make it 7-0-1 for identifying a “non-down” period.
I have to admit, your short-term view of the market in No Co is pretty good, and you still hold to the long-term vision of “down more than up” while seeing when the market will turn.
I think we are in for a long series of up/down/up/down/up/down with the downs being a little more aggressive than the ups, resulting in a net “downage” over the next several years.
We have to be about ready for a downswing here soon, though. Certainly the national numbers look bleak.
I’m still liking this one from Dec 1, 2008:
“It wouldn’t shock me if this recession ended in late 2009, then another one hits in 2011 when all the people who have been bailed out realize they are still screwed.”Maybe North-county coastal is at the top of the Margarita glass and wont be affected by Big Recession 2.0
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Participant[quote=sdrealtor]DZ
I never said anything about2000 nominal prices causing a depression so that one isnt mine. I dont think we will see them in the better areas except on very high end properties but that is another matter.The sarcasm is because, every time something like this appears in the news a bunch of posters show up with the I told you so’s and the same tired arguments. Each of these arguments look great on paper and have for quite a while but what looks good on paper and what happens on the streets are not the same. I look at it all with skepticism, both the good news and the bad news. Right down the middle with a stagnant economy is where we have been and where we are headed.
My post summing it all up was to save everyone from posting the same stuff that they have been for years.[/quote]
Saying the government is going to kick the can down the road is a way to be right until you are dead wrong.
I’m not saying it’s gonna happen this year or next or the next, but eventually you get to the end of the road, or you kick the can off a cliff.
Just the opposite is always expecting doom – you are always wrong until suddenly you are correct and look like a genius. Predicting 5 of the last 2 recessions makes one 2-3, not 2-0.
I’m not sure if I’d give you 8-0. You explicitly called for a non-bounce that ended up being a definitive bounce π Make it 7-0-1 for identifying a “non-down” period.
I have to admit, your short-term view of the market in No Co is pretty good, and you still hold to the long-term vision of “down more than up” while seeing when the market will turn.
I think we are in for a long series of up/down/up/down/up/down with the downs being a little more aggressive than the ups, resulting in a net “downage” over the next several years.
We have to be about ready for a downswing here soon, though. Certainly the national numbers look bleak.
I’m still liking this one from Dec 1, 2008:
“It wouldn’t shock me if this recession ended in late 2009, then another one hits in 2011 when all the people who have been bailed out realize they are still screwed.”Maybe North-county coastal is at the top of the Margarita glass and wont be affected by Big Recession 2.0
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]DZ
I never said anything about2000 nominal prices causing a depression so that one isnt mine. I dont think we will see them in the better areas except on very high end properties but that is another matter.The sarcasm is because, every time something like this appears in the news a bunch of posters show up with the I told you so’s and the same tired arguments. Each of these arguments look great on paper and have for quite a while but what looks good on paper and what happens on the streets are not the same. I look at it all with skepticism, both the good news and the bad news. Right down the middle with a stagnant economy is where we have been and where we are headed.
My post summing it all up was to save everyone from posting the same stuff that they have been for years.[/quote]
Saying the government is going to kick the can down the road is a way to be right until you are dead wrong.
I’m not saying it’s gonna happen this year or next or the next, but eventually you get to the end of the road, or you kick the can off a cliff.
Just the opposite is always expecting doom – you are always wrong until suddenly you are correct and look like a genius. Predicting 5 of the last 2 recessions makes one 2-3, not 2-0.
I’m not sure if I’d give you 8-0. You explicitly called for a non-bounce that ended up being a definitive bounce π Make it 7-0-1 for identifying a “non-down” period.
I have to admit, your short-term view of the market in No Co is pretty good, and you still hold to the long-term vision of “down more than up” while seeing when the market will turn.
I think we are in for a long series of up/down/up/down/up/down with the downs being a little more aggressive than the ups, resulting in a net “downage” over the next several years.
We have to be about ready for a downswing here soon, though. Certainly the national numbers look bleak.
I’m still liking this one from Dec 1, 2008:
“It wouldn’t shock me if this recession ended in late 2009, then another one hits in 2011 when all the people who have been bailed out realize they are still screwed.”Maybe North-county coastal is at the top of the Margarita glass and wont be affected by Big Recession 2.0
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]DZ
I never said anything about2000 nominal prices causing a depression so that one isnt mine. I dont think we will see them in the better areas except on very high end properties but that is another matter.The sarcasm is because, every time something like this appears in the news a bunch of posters show up with the I told you so’s and the same tired arguments. Each of these arguments look great on paper and have for quite a while but what looks good on paper and what happens on the streets are not the same. I look at it all with skepticism, both the good news and the bad news. Right down the middle with a stagnant economy is where we have been and where we are headed.
My post summing it all up was to save everyone from posting the same stuff that they have been for years.[/quote]
Saying the government is going to kick the can down the road is a way to be right until you are dead wrong.
I’m not saying it’s gonna happen this year or next or the next, but eventually you get to the end of the road, or you kick the can off a cliff.
Just the opposite is always expecting doom – you are always wrong until suddenly you are correct and look like a genius. Predicting 5 of the last 2 recessions makes one 2-3, not 2-0.
I’m not sure if I’d give you 8-0. You explicitly called for a non-bounce that ended up being a definitive bounce π Make it 7-0-1 for identifying a “non-down” period.
I have to admit, your short-term view of the market in No Co is pretty good, and you still hold to the long-term vision of “down more than up” while seeing when the market will turn.
I think we are in for a long series of up/down/up/down/up/down with the downs being a little more aggressive than the ups, resulting in a net “downage” over the next several years.
We have to be about ready for a downswing here soon, though. Certainly the national numbers look bleak.
I’m still liking this one from Dec 1, 2008:
“It wouldn’t shock me if this recession ended in late 2009, then another one hits in 2011 when all the people who have been bailed out realize they are still screwed.”Maybe North-county coastal is at the top of the Margarita glass and wont be affected by Big Recession 2.0
sdduuuude
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]DZ
I never said anything about2000 nominal prices causing a depression so that one isnt mine. I dont think we will see them in the better areas except on very high end properties but that is another matter.The sarcasm is because, every time something like this appears in the news a bunch of posters show up with the I told you so’s and the same tired arguments. Each of these arguments look great on paper and have for quite a while but what looks good on paper and what happens on the streets are not the same. I look at it all with skepticism, both the good news and the bad news. Right down the middle with a stagnant economy is where we have been and where we are headed.
My post summing it all up was to save everyone from posting the same stuff that they have been for years.[/quote]
Saying the government is going to kick the can down the road is a way to be right until you are dead wrong.
I’m not saying it’s gonna happen this year or next or the next, but eventually you get to the end of the road, or you kick the can off a cliff.
Just the opposite is always expecting doom – you are always wrong until suddenly you are correct and look like a genius. Predicting 5 of the last 2 recessions makes one 2-3, not 2-0.
I’m not sure if I’d give you 8-0. You explicitly called for a non-bounce that ended up being a definitive bounce π Make it 7-0-1 for identifying a “non-down” period.
I have to admit, your short-term view of the market in No Co is pretty good, and you still hold to the long-term vision of “down more than up” while seeing when the market will turn.
I think we are in for a long series of up/down/up/down/up/down with the downs being a little more aggressive than the ups, resulting in a net “downage” over the next several years.
We have to be about ready for a downswing here soon, though. Certainly the national numbers look bleak.
I’m still liking this one from Dec 1, 2008:
“It wouldn’t shock me if this recession ended in late 2009, then another one hits in 2011 when all the people who have been bailed out realize they are still screwed.”Maybe North-county coastal is at the top of the Margarita glass and wont be affected by Big Recession 2.0
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Participant[quote=KSMountain]Apart from the financial aspect, I personally feel Police and Engineers are both *indispensable* in our current society. Not sure how you would rank one versus the other. I guess I might say the average police officer provides more benefits to society than the average engineer, but I’m not sure.[/quote]
Salary is not determined by your value to society. Like all markets, it is a function of supply and demand.
Demand for labor is driven by the importance of the job, and the capacity required.
Supply is determined by the difficulty of the job and the enjoyability of the job. Less enjoyable jobs have a lower labor supply – fewer people want to do it.
Lets say a city needs someone to keep their finger in the dike to keep it from flooding the city. Well, the demand for that position is 1. And, although it is an indispensable position, it does not require a remarkable amount of skill or training. Nor is it a very unpleasant job.
Thus, the number of people willing and able to do it is rather high. Thus, I doubt it would be a highly paid position, though clearly it is critical to society.
As I mention above, these wages are not set by market forces or supply and demand, but by union thuggery. As such, I suspect they are too high, regardless of their importantce.
In other words – if the city had offered a lower salary with a lower pension, would some other qualified candidate have taken the job? If the answer is “yes” then they overpaid. Plain and simple. Unfortunately, it is never posed this way.
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