[sd_matt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of%5B/quote%5D

“And let’s not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American,”

LOL nice:)

[sd_matt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]I think this is an article about John.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of%5B/quote%5D

“And let’s not forget that when the Constitution was ratified it brought freedom to every single American,”

LOL nice:)

[sd_matt]

Something tells me this guy would have done the same thing, Islam or no.

It’s always the same when some reject doesn’t get laid.

[sd_matt]

Something tells me this guy would have done the same thing, Islam or no.

It’s always the same when some reject doesn’t get laid.

[sd_matt]

Something tells me this guy would have done the same thing, Islam or no.

It’s always the same when some reject doesn’t get laid.

[sd_matt]

Something tells me this guy would have done the same thing, Islam or no.

It’s always the same when some reject doesn’t get laid.

[sd_matt]

Something tells me this guy would have done the same thing, Islam or no.

It’s always the same when some reject doesn’t get laid.

[sd_matt]

[quote=ucodegen]

I still think it would be better to fire Congress and then start with subtle changes to the current system like allowing interstate competition and getting rid of the anti-trust exemption.

I think the best way is a progressive series of legislations.. This way you don’t make a big, hard to correct mistake.
1) remove anti-trust exemption
2) allow interstate competition
3) allow people to carry their insurance after job loss at their current payout rate(from the same provider) – but they also have to pay the company contrib part after the job loss.
4) Treat health savings accounts like a 401K.. unspent money can be rolled over to the next year.
5) Insurer can’t cancel a policy once a person has a systemic illness while covered. All of the payments the person made up to then was to cover such an event.
… just a start.[/quote]

Yup

This or some variation. And any additional changes done over time.

[sd_matt]

[quote=ucodegen]

I still think it would be better to fire Congress and then start with subtle changes to the current system like allowing interstate competition and getting rid of the anti-trust exemption.

I think the best way is a progressive series of legislations.. This way you don’t make a big, hard to correct mistake.
1) remove anti-trust exemption
2) allow interstate competition
3) allow people to carry their insurance after job loss at their current payout rate(from the same provider) – but they also have to pay the company contrib part after the job loss.
4) Treat health savings accounts like a 401K.. unspent money can be rolled over to the next year.
5) Insurer can’t cancel a policy once a person has a systemic illness while covered. All of the payments the person made up to then was to cover such an event.
… just a start.[/quote]

Yup

This or some variation. And any additional changes done over time.

[sd_matt]

[quote=ucodegen]

I still think it would be better to fire Congress and then start with subtle changes to the current system like allowing interstate competition and getting rid of the anti-trust exemption.

I think the best way is a progressive series of legislations.. This way you don’t make a big, hard to correct mistake.
1) remove anti-trust exemption
2) allow interstate competition
3) allow people to carry their insurance after job loss at their current payout rate(from the same provider) – but they also have to pay the company contrib part after the job loss.
4) Treat health savings accounts like a 401K.. unspent money can be rolled over to the next year.
5) Insurer can’t cancel a policy once a person has a systemic illness while covered. All of the payments the person made up to then was to cover such an event.
… just a start.[/quote]

Yup

This or some variation. And any additional changes done over time.

[sd_matt]

[quote=ucodegen]

I still think it would be better to fire Congress and then start with subtle changes to the current system like allowing interstate competition and getting rid of the anti-trust exemption.

I think the best way is a progressive series of legislations.. This way you don’t make a big, hard to correct mistake.
1) remove anti-trust exemption
2) allow interstate competition
3) allow people to carry their insurance after job loss at their current payout rate(from the same provider) – but they also have to pay the company contrib part after the job loss.
4) Treat health savings accounts like a 401K.. unspent money can be rolled over to the next year.
5) Insurer can’t cancel a policy once a person has a systemic illness while covered. All of the payments the person made up to then was to cover such an event.
… just a start.[/quote]

Yup

This or some variation. And any additional changes done over time.

[sd_matt]

[quote=ucodegen]

I still think it would be better to fire Congress and then start with subtle changes to the current system like allowing interstate competition and getting rid of the anti-trust exemption.

I think the best way is a progressive series of legislations.. This way you don’t make a big, hard to correct mistake.
1) remove anti-trust exemption
2) allow interstate competition
3) allow people to carry their insurance after job loss at their current payout rate(from the same provider) – but they also have to pay the company contrib part after the job loss.
4) Treat health savings accounts like a 401K.. unspent money can be rolled over to the next year.
5) Insurer can’t cancel a policy once a person has a systemic illness while covered. All of the payments the person made up to then was to cover such an event.
… just a start.[/quote]

Yup

This or some variation. And any additional changes done over time.

[sd_matt]

[quote=ltokuda][quote=sd_matt]
Last time I checked roads were built with DMV fees and gasoline taxes. If I am wrong then I’m wrong. But that is the way it should be…not an argument to justify more control by a very incompetent government.

Let people decide for themselves to be healthy or unhealthy.

Whoever said your indoctrinated is right. You refuse to say whether or not you think those in Congress are competent.

And if you do acknowledge that they are incompetent then you are outright insane since you want them to handle your health care.[/quote]

I believe the interstate highway system was built by the U.S. government. The idea is that interstate highways benefit the country as a whole and make it stronger. But if you left it up to each state or county to build their portion of the highway, no one would want to pay for it.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that congress will run a public option with supreme competence. But remember that the goal of the public option is to pay for your medical expenses when you are sick. The goal of a private insurance company is to not pay for your expenses. So the public option might be incompetent at trying to pay you. But private companies are very competent at not paying you. Who would you trust more?[/quote]

I still think it would be better to fire Congress and then start with subtle changes to the current system like allowing interstate competition and getting rid of the anti-trust exemption.

I agree with socializing health care when it comes to catastrophic illness.

The rest I am not too sure about.

[sd_matt]

[quote=ltokuda][quote=sd_matt]
Last time I checked roads were built with DMV fees and gasoline taxes. If I am wrong then I’m wrong. But that is the way it should be…not an argument to justify more control by a very incompetent government.

Let people decide for themselves to be healthy or unhealthy.

Whoever said your indoctrinated is right. You refuse to say whether or not you think those in Congress are competent.

And if you do acknowledge that they are incompetent then you are outright insane since you want them to handle your health care.[/quote]

I believe the interstate highway system was built by the U.S. government. The idea is that interstate highways benefit the country as a whole and make it stronger. But if you left it up to each state or county to build their portion of the highway, no one would want to pay for it.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that congress will run a public option with supreme competence. But remember that the goal of the public option is to pay for your medical expenses when you are sick. The goal of a private insurance company is to not pay for your expenses. So the public option might be incompetent at trying to pay you. But private companies are very competent at not paying you. Who would you trust more?[/quote]

I still think it would be better to fire Congress and then start with subtle changes to the current system like allowing interstate competition and getting rid of the anti-trust exemption.

I agree with socializing health care when it comes to catastrophic illness.

The rest I am not too sure about.

[sd_matt]

[quote=ltokuda][quote=sd_matt]
Last time I checked roads were built with DMV fees and gasoline taxes. If I am wrong then I’m wrong. But that is the way it should be…not an argument to justify more control by a very incompetent government.

Let people decide for themselves to be healthy or unhealthy.

Whoever said your indoctrinated is right. You refuse to say whether or not you think those in Congress are competent.

And if you do acknowledge that they are incompetent then you are outright insane since you want them to handle your health care.[/quote]

I believe the interstate highway system was built by the U.S. government. The idea is that interstate highways benefit the country as a whole and make it stronger. But if you left it up to each state or county to build their portion of the highway, no one would want to pay for it.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that congress will run a public option with supreme competence. But remember that the goal of the public option is to pay for your medical expenses when you are sick. The goal of a private insurance company is to not pay for your expenses. So the public option might be incompetent at trying to pay you. But private companies are very competent at not paying you. Who would you trust more?[/quote]

I still think it would be better to fire Congress and then start with subtle changes to the current system like allowing interstate competition and getting rid of the anti-trust exemption.

I agree with socializing health care when it comes to catastrophic illness.

The rest I am not too sure about.

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