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ParticipantI loathe halloween.
ParticipantI’m not saving anything; first I have toget ready to rail against Columbus Day.
Then there’s that goddamned thanksgiving. What an irritating farce. Just celebrate genocide why dontcha?
Christmas. A commercialized nightmare. Sickening spectacles of consumption.
New years eve. As if we have a monopoly on which day the new year will start.
And don’t get me started on valentines day.
ParticipantI read everything Jon krakauer writes because he moves me, so I read his pat tillman book, and kindve know more than I ordinarily would about pat tillman.
If anyone had an heroic spirit it was pat.
So utterly used, distorted and screwed with by his own country.
ParticipantIt’s really bad to get yourself all revved up over big crazy things you have zero input on.
If you were inspired by the pat tillman story prior to the truth coming out, was it still an inspirational hero story afterward? Did it leave a bad taste in your mouth about the military?
ParticipantA politically weak alcoholic w a chip on his shoulder looking like a one term president; that was bush prior to 9-11. It’s dangerous to have a weak president looking to prove himself. If bush’s presidency had been going great, or he’d had a better youth, maybe he couldve held back the war machine.
Because Obama continues the war machine doesn’t mean it’s right just that it’s politically expedient. Being already in a war is different than starting it. Bring it on is different than bring them home.
But yeah obama probably wouldve taken us to war in 01 also. Gore wouldn’t have though. Well, maybe. Nader mightve done the right thing…
Actually forget it. I have no opinion really. All I know is I don’t like this war. Our actions in Iraq are worse than 9-11 because 9-11 was perpetrated by some batshit crazy spoiled rich douchebag Saudi. Our war was done by a clearheaded sober nation. And by sheer numbers the civilian body count in Iraq wins.
I’ll try to separate out 9/11 from the war so I don’t get in a tizzy anymore.
But even the hero stories are subject to propaganda and military bullshit. Just ask pat tillmans family.
Participantfrom the 70’s…
Paper Lace
Billy Don’t Be A Hero lyricsThe marching band came down along main street.
The soldier blues fell in behind.
I looked across and there I saw Billy
Waiting to go and join the line.
And with her head upon his shoulderHis young and lovely fiancee.
From where I stood I saw she was cryin’
And through her tears I heard her say:Billy don’t be a hero
don’t be a fool with your life.
Billy don’t be a hero “Come back and make me your wife”.
And as Billy started to go she said “Keep your pretty head low”
Billy don’t be a hero “Come back to me”.
Thesoldier blues were trapped on a hillside.
The battle ragin’ all around.
The sergeant cried “We’ve gotta hang on boysWegotta hold this piece of ground
I need a volunteer to ride out
And bring us back some extra men.”
And Billy’s hand was up in a moment
Forgetting all the words she said. She said:Billy don’t be a hero
don’t be a fool with your life. . . .
I hard his fiancee got a letter
That told how Billy died that day
The letter said that he was a hero
She should be proud he died that way
I heard she threw fhe letter away.Participanti dont know, man. im still pissed about the iraq war, still pissed about bush and cheney and wolfowitz, about abu ghraib, about all the lying an dopportunism and halliburton and and bullshit, about using freaking NAPALM in iraq on civilians (Mark 77 it’s called) and lying about it to the news agencies, and then saying, well, technically it wasn’t napalm, it’s this new improved shit that’s exacty like napalm and the military dudes who dump it on people call it napalm, and jeez, to me, 9-11 was the key to unleashing a decade of crazy warfare where we just unleash our hellfire with a bunch of lies and kill innocents everywhere because, well, why not, we are pissed, and then they make kids dress up as human flags while listening to a rotc marching band to commemorate…what, exactly?
Participant“We Don’t Need Another Hero”
OUT OF THE RUINS
OUT FROM THE WRECKAGE
CAN`T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE THIS TIME
WE ARE THE CHILDREN
THE LAST GENERATION
WE ARE THE ONES THEY LEFT BEHIND
AND I WONDER WHEN WE ARE EVER GONNA CHANGE
LIVING UNDER THE FEAR, TILL NOTHING ELSE REMAINSWE DON`T NEED ANOTHER HERO
WE DON`T NEED TO KNOW THE WAY HOME
ALL WE WANT IS LIFE BEYOND
THUNDERDOMELOOKING FOR SOMETHING
WE CAN RELY ON
THERE`S GOTTA BE SOMETHING BETTER OUT THERE
LOVE AND COMPASSION
THEIR DAY IS COMING
ALL ELSE ARE CASTLES BUILT IN THE AIR
AND I WONDER WHEN WE ARE EVER GONNA CHANGE
LIVING UNDER THE FEAR TILL NOTHING ELSE REMAINSALL THE CHILDREN SAY
WE DON`T NEED ANOTHER HERO
WE DON`T NEED TO KNOW THE WAY HOME
ALL WE WANT IS LIFE BEYOND
THUNDERDOMESO WHAT DO WE DO WITH OUR LIFES
WE LEAVE ONLY A MARK
WILL OUR STORY SHINE LIKE A LIGHT
OR END IN THE DARK
GIVE IT ALL OR NOTHINGWE DON`T NEED ANOTHER HERO
WE DON`T NEED TO KNOW THE WAY HOME
ALL WE WANT IS LIFE BEYOND
THUNDERDOMEParticipant8.4 Million New Yorkers Suddenly Realize New York City A Horrible Place To Live
‘We’re Getting The Hell Out Of This Sewer,’ Entire Populace Reports
SEPTEMBER 2, 2010 | ISSUE 46•3502.13.09
NEW YORK—At 4:32 p.m. Tuesday, every single resident of New York City decided to evacuate the famed metropolis, having realized it was nothing more than a massive, trash-ridden hellhole that slowly sucks the life out of every one of its inhabitants.With audible murmurs of “This is no way to live,” “What the hell am I doing here—I hate it here,” and “Fuck this place. Fuck this horrible place,” all 8.4 million citizens in each of the five boroughs packed up their belongings and told reporters they would rather blow their brains out with a shotgun than spend another waking moment in this festering cesspool of filth and scum and sadness.
By 5:15 p.m. there was gridlock traffic on the outbound sides of the Holland and Lincoln tunnels, and the area’s three major airports were flooded with New Yorkers, all of whom said they wanted to go anyplace where the pressure of 20 million tons of concrete wasn’t constantly suffocating them.
“I always had this perverted sense of pride because I was managing to scrape by here,” said Brooklyn resident Andrew McQuade, who, after watching two subway rats gnawing on a third bloody rat carcass, finally determined that New York City was a giant sprawling cancer. “Well, fuck that. I don’t need to pay $2,000 a month to share a doghouse-sized apartment with some random Craigslist dipshit to prove my worth. I want to live like a goddamn human being.”
“You see this?” added McQuade, pointing at a real estate listing for a duplex in Hagerstown, MD. “Two bedrooms, two baths, a den—a fucking den—and a patio. Twelve hundred a month. That’s total, not per person.”
According to residents, the mass exodus was triggered by a number of normal, everyday New York City events. For Erin Caldwell of Manhattan, an endlessly honking car horn sent her over the edge, causing her to go into a blind rage and scream “shut up!” at the vehicle as loud as she could until her voice went hoarse; for Danny Tremba of Queens it was being cursed at for walking too slow; and for Paul Ogden, also of Queens, it was his overreaction to somebody walking too slow.
Other incidents that prompted citizens to pick up and leave included the sight of garbage bags stacked 5 feet high on the sidewalk; the realization that being alone among millions of anonymous people is actually quite horrifying; a blaring siren that droned on and fucking on; muddy, refuse-filled puddles that have inexplicably not dried in three years; the thought of growing into a person whose meanness and cynicism is cloaked in a kind of holier-than-thou brand of sarcasm that the rest of the world finds nauseating; and all the goddamn people.
In addition, 3 million New Yorkers reportedly left the city because they realized the phrase “Only in New York” is actually just a defense mechanism used to convince themselves that seeing a naked man take a shit on a park bench is somehow endearing, or part of some shared cultural experience.
SLIDESHOW
New York City
“I was sitting on my stoop, drinking coffee, and out of nowhere this crazy-looking woman just starts screaming, ‘I am inside all of you,’ over and over,” Bronx resident Sarah Perez, 37, said. “Then, we both had this moment where we looked at each other and realized, okay, we have to get out of here.”“This place sucks,” Manhattan resident Woody Allen, 74, told reporters. “It just fucking sucks.”
When fleeing New Yorkers were asked if they would miss the city’s iconic landmarks, most responded that Central Park is just a pathetic excuse for experiencing actual nature, that the Brooklyn Bridge is great but it’s just a fucking bridge, that nobody goes to the Met anyway, and that living in a dingy, grime-caked apartment while exhaust fumes from an idling truck seep through your bedroom window isn’t worth slightly bigger bagels.
“This is no place to raise a kid, that’s for sure,” said 32-year-old Brandon Rushing, a lifelong New Yorker. “I grew up here and I turned into a giant asshole. Why would I want that for my son?”
“Plus, we’re the place most likely to get nuked by a dirty bomb in a terrorist attack,” he added. “So that’s great. Also, it smells like shit here, and I’m not exaggerating. You’ll just be walking around and it starts smelling like human shit, and it just fills your nostrils and you breathe in shit for like 20 seconds.”
Before departing by private helicopter, Mayor Michael Bloomberg spoke with members of the media to address the situation.
“You know what the greatest city in the world is?” Bloomberg asked reporters. “Scottsdale, Arizona. It’s clean, it’s not too big, it’s got a couple streets with shops and restaurants, and the people there aren’t fucking insane. This place is fucking insane. And by the way, that’s not a reason to like it. Anyone who says that is a delusional dirtbag.”
By Tuesday night, New York was completely abandoned. At press time, however, some 10 million Los Angeles–area residents, tired of their self-centered, laid-back culture and lack of four distinct seasons, and yearning for the hustle and bustle of East Coast life, had already begun repopulating the city.
ParticipantActually lots of movies are made about non heroes.
ParticipantFear has its use, cowardice has none. Gandhi.
ParticipantWas a giant event at local hs. Students told to wear red white and blue. Administrator read apparent excerpts from bush’s post 9-11 war necessity speech, kid thinks. ROTC marched w flags.
Kid is in ap us history, took ap euro history last year. Knows about propaganda, nationalism. Says that was what this felt like. I expressed zero opinion on it previously. I prefer toet them draw their own conclusions although they were raised by me so bias creep will occur.
Guess this military tinged celebration will be every year from now on… He did enjoy it cuz he got out of Spanish class. And he found it historically intriguing.
Me forget about it? Unlikely. I’ll want to come up w better arguments for next year.
To me, this country is the dissent.
ParticipantI grew up my whole childhood NYC and lived ther. For 2 years as an adult.
It’s a crappy place to live. There’s an onion article poking fun at how new yorkers are proud of how crappy their life is there. I’ll find it.
New York is in many ways a hellhole for anyone making less than 150000 a year. Pre and post 9-11.
ParticipantHowever it is kinda cool. And then you get to be dead, which is relaxing.
The man who is courting tells his woman, ” I would gladly lay down my life for you.”
after 20 years of marriage, he would not even lay down his newspaper for her.”
old quote….
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