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ParticipantI like piggington tho.
Participantim not saying that these things dont have value…to us …as individuals…just that they have no commerial value,just like i cannot price what it is to have sex with my wife.
sure we could contract out that servive. i could be paying escorts to have sex with me.
but that’s kind of ridcuolus right, to say my wife is producing a dolalr value equivalent of what the escort would ahve been paid?
that that is a form of “savings”
to say that this work is not “valued” because we don’t put a price on it is, in my view, kind of missing the point.
this is personal life.
it’s not a markeptlace.
it is based on irrational love an d affection.
sure it’s a shitty deal. love is a shitty deal for everyone involved.
it’s nuts!
it’s not subject to rational whims and efficient pricing.
Participant[quote=CA renter][quote=FlyerInHi][quote=njtosd][quote=FlyerInHi]The very idea of imputed income as you put it CAr, is just weird.
Value is the what the market will pay, no more, no less.
More kids, more work = more income/savings? sounds ludicrous.[/quote]
Imputed income is a tax concept. Take a look back at my earlier post on this matter. It is particularly discussed in terms of real estate but it is just an interesting concept in terms of what this thread is addressing[/quote]
Yes, I realize that.
But CAr renter implies that all the work done around the house is income/savings.[/quote]
Because it is. Read the links I’ve provided; you’ll get a better understanding of what I’m talking about. All of these jobs can be done by hiring a third party. The value of that work can be fairly easily ascertained by looking at what it would cost to outsource all of this work. It doesn’t matter who does the work; the work still has a monetary value, just as installing your own solar panels, or fixing your own car has a monetary value.
And with all due respect, Brian, you have *no idea* how much work is involved when taking care of a family. It is nothing at all like tidying up after yourself as a single person; there is absolutely no comparison, whatsoever.[/quote]
the project of all the housework, the goal if you will, is to produce children. that’s the product of all this work.
and perhaps that has a negative net value to society.
like an enterprise that tans leather and dumps lots of toxins and destroys a river. they made some leather, yeah, but on balance, the value to society was negative.
making more people isa negative, probably at this point in time, at least from my negative perspective on the earth’s carrying capacity, global warming our general impending demise.
we should probably be PAYING for the right to reproduce. or taxed on it anyway.
so Im not persuaded that this venture of producing raising and caring for children is worth antyhing, to society at least. it’s obviously worth something to each of us, as we wouldnt do it if we werent into it.
but is it worth it to society?
i think no.
it’s definitely not wortha a la cart pricing menu of hiring independent contracteors to get this “important” work done.
fingernal clipping $14.00 per kid, plus travel expenses to an from) and insurance for said nail clipping $124.55
hair washing: $4.50
towel dry $1.43
cooking of pasta: 6.55
getting glass of water for little fucker at 2 a.m. (emergency housecall) 455.00
imparting social mores at dinner $.39
pat on head .15
christmas shopping for gifts (not including gift value) $75.99
strapping into car seat 3.00
preparing lunch for school. .89
changing of diaper @5.44each 19,477.56
reading at bedtime 9.00
oncall vomit cleanup plus hazmat suit and licensing: 7,900
Participant[quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=njtosd][quote=scaredyclassic]I prefer men to women.[/quote]
All men or just certain men? Like, what if you had a chance to hang out with Scott Peters vs. Miranda Kerr (my son considers her synonymous with “perfect”). And you seem to have married a woman . . . right?[/quote]
average woman v. Average man. However men don’t like me. Too weird. Women like me. I might be more like a woman[/quote]
Quit saying football is stupid and questioning the military and men will love you.
I just learned to shut-up and pretend their cars are awesome. I like my new found popularity.[/quote]being strong and fast is not stupid, but watching other people be strong and fast is kind of stupid, and knowing too much about the strong and fast people and their schedules and histroies is definitely stupid.
the military is not always stupid but being too obsequious to the military under all circumstances is stupid.
and cars arestupid.
golf is stupid.
pretty much everything normal guys talk about is stupid.
still, womensconversation s are worse. i like talking about how dumbwe all are.
im not that crazy about intellectual academic discussions either.
people often get uncomfortable talking to me as i say things that maybe are out of bounds for normal conversation.
i like talking to my kids about anything.
other people’s kids are often dull though.
Participantthe mere thought of having a daughter fills me with fear.
Participant[quote=CA renter]Yes, you do. :)[/quote]
I cannot imagine living a life without alcohol.
ParticipantThe only thing I like about death is no more money worries.
Seems like men take failure to earn and support way more to heart than the ladies do.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=Blogstar]
Not going to spin it , just looking for a data point on the topic. Good Job, UCgal too (based post on the other thread.) The dumping is a joke….maybe I will put jokes in italics until you find that bone you lost. One of the orthopedic guys could have come in handy there. One of the orthopedic guys could have come in handy there.[/quote]
Make the jokes funnier and I will get them. I hesitate to ask – was repeating the last sentence supposed to be a joke, too? Did you ever read “A Confederacy of Dunces” ? Husband hates it, I think it’s hysterical. One of the few humor things we disagree on. We both love Monty Python.[/quote]
Humor. This is the funniest thing ive seen in a really long time.Key & Peele: Auction Block: http://youtu.be/zB7MichlL1k
Seems to be a commentary on male insecurity in the labor market
ParticipantI read iron John by Robert bly in the 80s. This Farrell dude sounds more reasonable.
Boy powrr!
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=scaredyclassic]I prefer men to women.[/quote]
All men or just certain men? Like, what if you had a chance to hang out with Scott Peters vs. Miranda Kerr (my son considers her synonymous with “perfect”). And you seem to have married a woman . . . right?[/quote]
average woman v. Average man. However men don’t like me. Too weird. Women like me. I might be more like a woman
ParticipantI believe my overall sexiness is pretty overwhelming.
But I’m not sure what the first link is to? I wanna read.
ParticipantI prefer men to women.
ParticipantSo if you have 15 children you’ll be even richer, since you’ll get so much more real savings from all that imputed income, 5x as much than if you’d just had 3 kids!
Rich! We’re rich!
Except we are broke…
ParticipantIn general more people are unnecessary.
We need less on the planet.
Therefore raising them is not worth much.
Except mine who make the world much better.
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