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Participant[quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic]Sounds completely batshit crazy, doesn’t it?!![/quote]
The part denouncing hoarding wheat too excessively doesn’t sound too crazy, it sounds wise to me, but the rest is just nuts.[/quote]Isn’t the piles of wheat a metaphor for a big fat 401k?[/quote]
So?[/quote]Denouncing big fat 401ks sounds crazy to me.
ParticipantPiggington is a bunch of pagan runners.
Participant[quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic]Sounds completely batshit crazy, doesn’t it?!![/quote]
The part denouncing hoarding wheat too excessively doesn’t sound too crazy, it sounds wise to me, but the rest is just nuts.[/quote]Isn’t the piles of wheat a metaphor for a big fat 401k?
ParticipantThe Jewish perspective does not particularly like poverty…
Rabbi Elazar ben Azaryah says: If there is no Torah study, there is no derech eretz (worldly involvement); if there is no derech eretz, there is no Torah study. If there is no wisdom, there is no fear of God; if there is no fear of God, there is no wisdom. If there is no reason, there is no understanding; if there is no understanding, there is no reason. If there is no flour, there is no Torah; if there is no Torah, there is no flour.
Ethics of the Fathers, 3:2
Not sure what it means exactly, but it’s pretty clear jews are expected to get their own bread, but that goal is related to studying torah.
ParticipantSounds completely batshit crazy, doesn’t it?!!
Participant[quote=moneymaker]I don’t think you’ll find the answer in the bible, but by all means look scaredy. I think money represents security, at least for a lot of people it does. Nothing wrong with feeling secure, in fact it can be empowering. But as we all know now money can not always “fix the feeling of being safe and secure” as our government is spending hordes of money on that and I don’t feel any more secure .[/quote]
Wait…found it!
The Parable of the Rich Fool
13 Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”14 Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you?” 15 Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.”
16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’
18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’
20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’
21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.”
Do Not Worry
22 Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear. 23 For life is more than food, and the body more than clothes. 24 Consider the ravens: They do not sow or reap, they have no storeroom or barn; yet God feeds them. And how much more valuable you are than birds! 25 Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to your life[b]? 26 Since you cannot do this very little thing, why do you worry about the rest?27 “Consider how the wild flowers grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you, not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 28 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today, and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, how much more will he clothe you—you of little faith! 29 And do not set your heart on what you will eat or drink; do not worry about it. 30 For the pagan world runs after all such things, and your Father knows that you need them. 31 But seek his kingdom, and these things will be given to you as well.
32 “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom. 33 Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Participant[quote=moneymaker]I don’t think you’ll find the answer in the bible, but by all means look scaredy. I think money represents security, at least for a lot of people it does. Nothing wrong with feeling secure, in fact it can be empowering. But as we all know now money can not always “fix the feeling of being safe and secure” as our government is spending hordes of money on that and I don’t feel any more secure .[/quote]
It’s difficult to beat great storehouses of wheat and grain for that secure feeling. Paper money, or digital money, not quite as secure feeling.
Also, many sons with strong backs.
Participant[quote=doofrat]I’d say this Johnny Cash quote is appropriate:
Success is having to worry about every damn thing in the world, except money.[/quote]I guess, but didn’t he go bankrupt at some point?
ParticipantI’m trying to find where in the bible it says how much cash we need before we dont have to worry anymore?
Participant[quote=flyer]Personally, I think not having to worry about finances as early in life as possible is a good thing. There is less stress in knowing that phase of life is taken care of for yourself and for your family, and it provides a lot of freedom in the way you live your life.
Although that scenario does provide greater peace of mind, it may or may not provide happiness. Imo, money may be a component of happiness–but it’s not the source. That lies far deeper in the human psyche, and is different for each person.[/quote]
Not having to worry about money is a good thing, of course but perhaps it’s not always related to how much money is in ones pile.
What is money other thanconsumption and possible deferred consumption or investing with sn eye toward potentially even greater possible deferred consumption?
Maybe I should start a new clothing line called LILIES OF THE VALLEY consisting of Monk like robes. That could pay off BIG TIME.
Participant[quote=gzz]As for Lending Club, this appeared on their initial homepage:
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Financial InnovationThe San Francisco company, which made nearly $100 million last year, is hoping to seize on the success of the online lending industry as it grows into a robust alternative to traditional loans, and validate the industry as a high-tech, quicker version of bank lending that is here to stay.
xxxBut Google Finance shows that the company had a net loss of $32 million, and an accumulated deficit of $80+ million on its balance sheet.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:LC&fstype=ii&ei=eBNyVqGwJMOkjAGCiZP4CA
Now that’s a quote from a newspaper, not directly from the company. But the way they feature it right on the front of their home page, and not even close to accurate, makes me mistrust them.
Also the whole idea of some start up kids with a “P2P platform” outsmarting banks at consumer lending seems dumb.[/quote]
Maybe it could work on some really tiny loans, say, financing an entree into the dope dealing business?
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]What a timely topic.
The other day, I was talking to someone and was accused of judging people on money. I was talking to someone about someone else. I said “he should have married Cindy because she was nice and from a rich family. It’s too bad because he ended up later with someone else who is just OK in comparison.” Sometimes people pass on a good opportunity and never find better, so they settle for less. Thinking about what could have been is one source of regret and unhappiness.
My experience is that people who say they don’t care about money actually do care a lot, but not directly. They care about social standing. But that’s what sophisticated people do.
The source of unhappiness is comparing yourself against others who have more. If you do that, it’s your damn fault.[/quote]
It’s fair to say humans only exist in relation to other humans.
It is unreasonable to expect us not to compare
Participant[quote=ltsdd]that makes sense. For most people middle age is when you realized that your youth and the energy and optimism that come with it are gone. In their place are achy body and spirit, along with the stress and pressure of the daily grind. And to top it off, most realized whatever they have accomplished is probably of little significance. It’s probably no different than that stage 4 (depression) of the 5 stages of grief. Once they hit that “old” age, they probably realized there’s not much they can do with little time left and decided to just kick it (stage 5 – acceptance).[/quote]
Need to get to stage 5 quicker.
ParticipantHappiness is at its lowest in middle age, increases in old age, psych research says.
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