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August 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM in reply to: Have you ever considered installing artificial grass? #445451August 14, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: San Diego Fire Chief retires at 53 with $123K/yr pension for life… #444666
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Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Sorry to jump in so late in this conversation but I think it is funny some of you would like to lower the pay until you get a certain number of people applying. That would be great so now you will only have the least qualified applicants working for your city and, dare I say, trying to protect and serve you. Do you want the lowest paid people doing that job? with guns? And then when whatever City cannot find qualified applicants they will offer a little bit more than the other city and skim the best people away from you (another reason benefits have gone up is to retain poeple). So I say yes to reform but no to hiring the low ballers for jobs. You know what THEY say??? You get what you pay for.[/quote]
Second this. Low ballers for jobs, end up weak employees. More competent people will qualify for higher paid jobs and thus, these jobs will be filled by idiots. I see this constantly in contract work. We have a company that is the lowest bidder for a very large contract, and the employees hired are either new to the field, or have been floating around the field for many years, unable to get ahead. Kind of like being an E-4 in the Navy for 10 years. They are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
August 14, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: San Diego Fire Chief retires at 53 with $123K/yr pension for life… #444859Ricechex
Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Sorry to jump in so late in this conversation but I think it is funny some of you would like to lower the pay until you get a certain number of people applying. That would be great so now you will only have the least qualified applicants working for your city and, dare I say, trying to protect and serve you. Do you want the lowest paid people doing that job? with guns? And then when whatever City cannot find qualified applicants they will offer a little bit more than the other city and skim the best people away from you (another reason benefits have gone up is to retain poeple). So I say yes to reform but no to hiring the low ballers for jobs. You know what THEY say??? You get what you pay for.[/quote]
Second this. Low ballers for jobs, end up weak employees. More competent people will qualify for higher paid jobs and thus, these jobs will be filled by idiots. I see this constantly in contract work. We have a company that is the lowest bidder for a very large contract, and the employees hired are either new to the field, or have been floating around the field for many years, unable to get ahead. Kind of like being an E-4 in the Navy for 10 years. They are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
August 14, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: San Diego Fire Chief retires at 53 with $123K/yr pension for life… #445196Ricechex
Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Sorry to jump in so late in this conversation but I think it is funny some of you would like to lower the pay until you get a certain number of people applying. That would be great so now you will only have the least qualified applicants working for your city and, dare I say, trying to protect and serve you. Do you want the lowest paid people doing that job? with guns? And then when whatever City cannot find qualified applicants they will offer a little bit more than the other city and skim the best people away from you (another reason benefits have gone up is to retain poeple). So I say yes to reform but no to hiring the low ballers for jobs. You know what THEY say??? You get what you pay for.[/quote]
Second this. Low ballers for jobs, end up weak employees. More competent people will qualify for higher paid jobs and thus, these jobs will be filled by idiots. I see this constantly in contract work. We have a company that is the lowest bidder for a very large contract, and the employees hired are either new to the field, or have been floating around the field for many years, unable to get ahead. Kind of like being an E-4 in the Navy for 10 years. They are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
August 14, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: San Diego Fire Chief retires at 53 with $123K/yr pension for life… #445265Ricechex
Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Sorry to jump in so late in this conversation but I think it is funny some of you would like to lower the pay until you get a certain number of people applying. That would be great so now you will only have the least qualified applicants working for your city and, dare I say, trying to protect and serve you. Do you want the lowest paid people doing that job? with guns? And then when whatever City cannot find qualified applicants they will offer a little bit more than the other city and skim the best people away from you (another reason benefits have gone up is to retain poeple). So I say yes to reform but no to hiring the low ballers for jobs. You know what THEY say??? You get what you pay for.[/quote]
Second this. Low ballers for jobs, end up weak employees. More competent people will qualify for higher paid jobs and thus, these jobs will be filled by idiots. I see this constantly in contract work. We have a company that is the lowest bidder for a very large contract, and the employees hired are either new to the field, or have been floating around the field for many years, unable to get ahead. Kind of like being an E-4 in the Navy for 10 years. They are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
August 14, 2009 at 11:00 AM in reply to: San Diego Fire Chief retires at 53 with $123K/yr pension for life… #445446Ricechex
Participant[quote=PlnrBoy]Sorry to jump in so late in this conversation but I think it is funny some of you would like to lower the pay until you get a certain number of people applying. That would be great so now you will only have the least qualified applicants working for your city and, dare I say, trying to protect and serve you. Do you want the lowest paid people doing that job? with guns? And then when whatever City cannot find qualified applicants they will offer a little bit more than the other city and skim the best people away from you (another reason benefits have gone up is to retain poeple). So I say yes to reform but no to hiring the low ballers for jobs. You know what THEY say??? You get what you pay for.[/quote]
Second this. Low ballers for jobs, end up weak employees. More competent people will qualify for higher paid jobs and thus, these jobs will be filled by idiots. I see this constantly in contract work. We have a company that is the lowest bidder for a very large contract, and the employees hired are either new to the field, or have been floating around the field for many years, unable to get ahead. Kind of like being an E-4 in the Navy for 10 years. They are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
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ParticipantWhy spend that much money to live by a school? Just does not seem worth it to me.
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ParticipantWhy spend that much money to live by a school? Just does not seem worth it to me.
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ParticipantWhy spend that much money to live by a school? Just does not seem worth it to me.
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ParticipantWhy spend that much money to live by a school? Just does not seem worth it to me.
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ParticipantWhy spend that much money to live by a school? Just does not seem worth it to me.
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ParticipantZeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.
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ParticipantZeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.
Ricechex
ParticipantZeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.
Ricechex
ParticipantZeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.
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