[patb]

[quote=peterb]Gold is tangible and has a long history as money and a store of value becuase it is very durable and not easy to find. Most commodities are consumables, gold isnt really consumed. Gold is an insurance policy against fiat unstability, fraud and govt’s bad behavior.
Central banks and the IMF hold quite a bit of it. Why? Granted their not the best indictor of intellegence, but they do have a lot of power in this world. And they tend to control the quantity of “money” in the world.[/quote]

until you find gold.

the spanish found aztec gold and went bankrupt…

[patb]

I’ve known people with these.

No big thing.

Figure every 25 years they need to come in…..

The big deal isnyou are limited in what you can build.

Such as you can’t get a permitted accessory structure on the easement, or you
Can’t get a fence over it, ebut if you do all they do is cut a hole.

[patb]

I’ve known people with these.

No big thing.

Figure every 25 years they need to come in…..

The big deal isnyou are limited in what you can build.

Such as you can’t get a permitted accessory structure on the easement, or you
Can’t get a fence over it, ebut if you do all they do is cut a hole.

[patb]

I’ve known people with these.

No big thing.

Figure every 25 years they need to come in…..

The big deal isnyou are limited in what you can build.

Such as you can’t get a permitted accessory structure on the easement, or you
Can’t get a fence over it, ebut if you do all they do is cut a hole.

[patb]

I’ve known people with these.

No big thing.

Figure every 25 years they need to come in…..

The big deal isnyou are limited in what you can build.

Such as you can’t get a permitted accessory structure on the easement, or you
Can’t get a fence over it, ebut if you do all they do is cut a hole.

[patb]

I’ve known people with these.

No big thing.

Figure every 25 years they need to come in…..

The big deal isnyou are limited in what you can build.

Such as you can’t get a permitted accessory structure on the easement, or you
Can’t get a fence over it, ebut if you do all they do is cut a hole.

[patb]

[quote=Eugene]

Also, I don’t see how a single strike group with 6,000 sailors and around 80 aircraft (presumably, mostly F-18’s, not heavy bombers), can have much impact on any war between Israel and Iran. When we invaded Iraq, we had 500,000 ground troops. I’m not sure how many aircraft carriers were involved, but it had to be more than one. And Iran is bigger and better defended than Iraq was.[/quote]

we went into Iraq this last time with 300,000 men.

while a carrier can hit a lot of key targets, it won’t matter.

we may hit the nuke stuff but thats it.

[patb]

[quote=Eugene]

Also, I don’t see how a single strike group with 6,000 sailors and around 80 aircraft (presumably, mostly F-18’s, not heavy bombers), can have much impact on any war between Israel and Iran. When we invaded Iraq, we had 500,000 ground troops. I’m not sure how many aircraft carriers were involved, but it had to be more than one. And Iran is bigger and better defended than Iraq was.[/quote]

we went into Iraq this last time with 300,000 men.

while a carrier can hit a lot of key targets, it won’t matter.

we may hit the nuke stuff but thats it.

[patb]

[quote=Eugene]

Also, I don’t see how a single strike group with 6,000 sailors and around 80 aircraft (presumably, mostly F-18’s, not heavy bombers), can have much impact on any war between Israel and Iran. When we invaded Iraq, we had 500,000 ground troops. I’m not sure how many aircraft carriers were involved, but it had to be more than one. And Iran is bigger and better defended than Iraq was.[/quote]

we went into Iraq this last time with 300,000 men.

while a carrier can hit a lot of key targets, it won’t matter.

we may hit the nuke stuff but thats it.

[patb]

[quote=Eugene]

Also, I don’t see how a single strike group with 6,000 sailors and around 80 aircraft (presumably, mostly F-18’s, not heavy bombers), can have much impact on any war between Israel and Iran. When we invaded Iraq, we had 500,000 ground troops. I’m not sure how many aircraft carriers were involved, but it had to be more than one. And Iran is bigger and better defended than Iraq was.[/quote]

we went into Iraq this last time with 300,000 men.

while a carrier can hit a lot of key targets, it won’t matter.

we may hit the nuke stuff but thats it.

[patb]

[quote=Eugene]

Also, I don’t see how a single strike group with 6,000 sailors and around 80 aircraft (presumably, mostly F-18’s, not heavy bombers), can have much impact on any war between Israel and Iran. When we invaded Iraq, we had 500,000 ground troops. I’m not sure how many aircraft carriers were involved, but it had to be more than one. And Iran is bigger and better defended than Iraq was.[/quote]

we went into Iraq this last time with 300,000 men.

while a carrier can hit a lot of key targets, it won’t matter.

we may hit the nuke stuff but thats it.

[patb]

It isn’t then things you dont know that kill you,
It’s the things you know for sure that just ain’t so that get you.

See WMD

[quote=CONCHO]

The Unknown, by Donald Rumsfeld (2002)

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.

I have always been a fan of Don Rumsfeld’s poetry. If the English language still exists 500 years from now, people will still be studying his poems. In addition to his work with the English language, he has also been a pioneer in the field of martial arts and has developed a variety of innovative fighting techniques.[/quote]

[patb]

It isn’t then things you dont know that kill you,
It’s the things you know for sure that just ain’t so that get you.

See WMD

[quote=CONCHO]

The Unknown, by Donald Rumsfeld (2002)

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.

I have always been a fan of Don Rumsfeld’s poetry. If the English language still exists 500 years from now, people will still be studying his poems. In addition to his work with the English language, he has also been a pioneer in the field of martial arts and has developed a variety of innovative fighting techniques.[/quote]

[patb]

It isn’t then things you dont know that kill you,
It’s the things you know for sure that just ain’t so that get you.

See WMD

[quote=CONCHO]

The Unknown, by Donald Rumsfeld (2002)

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.

I have always been a fan of Don Rumsfeld’s poetry. If the English language still exists 500 years from now, people will still be studying his poems. In addition to his work with the English language, he has also been a pioneer in the field of martial arts and has developed a variety of innovative fighting techniques.[/quote]

[patb]

It isn’t then things you dont know that kill you,
It’s the things you know for sure that just ain’t so that get you.

See WMD

[quote=CONCHO]

The Unknown, by Donald Rumsfeld (2002)

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.

I have always been a fan of Don Rumsfeld’s poetry. If the English language still exists 500 years from now, people will still be studying his poems. In addition to his work with the English language, he has also been a pioneer in the field of martial arts and has developed a variety of innovative fighting techniques.[/quote]

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