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[quote=sd_matt]I’m looking at getting my license and then buying a used street/sport bike around 600cc. Keep in mind the last thing I rode was a 50cc YSR about ten years ago. So a few questions.

1. What’s a good safety course that takes the place of the DMV test and how much does it cost?

(If the Motorcycle Safety Foundation is still in business, Take that, it’s a
sound course I took it)

2.After that course are there any more advanced courses that teaches one how to handle a bike and even lay it down correctly?
(MSF has an advanced course and a refresher course)

3. What safety equipment do you recommend and how much does it cost?

(Full Face helmet, Snell certified, not DOT, not used, NEW.
Leather jacket, Riding gloves, Chaps, heavy leather boots)

4. What’s a good used 600cc (ballpark) that will be reliable that you wouldn’t mind dinging up? Can I get one for less than $3k?

( I would reccomend a 300-350 at first, you need to practice a lot
before you get a 600 plus.)

5. I’m gonna get my license first and would like to rent a few bikes first. Are there places that do that?

(Buy a bike from the estate of some kid who hated helmets)

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[quote=surveyor]hey fishsticks:

Obamatons who keep bringing up Bush as a justification for Obama’s short-comings do themselves no favors. It shows a lack of critical thinking and an unwillingness to acknowledge certain facts.

By the way, W was a fighter pilot. You don’t get to be a fighter pilot without intelligence. It isn’t a position that is given to you. You have to earn it by being competent to fly.

Here is a typical question on an exam that W. had to pass. W. had to answer 60 questions like this in order to qualify for flying.

What should be the approximate elapsed time from the BOSEMAN (BZN) VOR to the DUBOIS (DBS) VORTAC if the wind is 24 knots from 260 degrees and your intended True Air Speed is 185 knots? (The magnetic variation is 17deg. E)

A. 33 minutes
B. 37 minutes
C. 39 minutes

Now can you answer that question on your own? If so, maybe you’re right that W. is not an intelligent person. But the evidence proves you wrong.

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you can’t answer that question without a map, or the distance between BZN and DBS.

Bush passed at the bottom of the acceptable score,

and he was taken off flight status, within 12 months.

No fighter pilot ever lets that happen without some ignominous circumstance.

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[quote=surveyor]hey fishsticks:

Obamatons who keep bringing up Bush as a justification for Obama’s short-comings do themselves no favors. It shows a lack of critical thinking and an unwillingness to acknowledge certain facts.

By the way, W was a fighter pilot. You don’t get to be a fighter pilot without intelligence. It isn’t a position that is given to you. You have to earn it by being competent to fly.

Here is a typical question on an exam that W. had to pass. W. had to answer 60 questions like this in order to qualify for flying.

What should be the approximate elapsed time from the BOSEMAN (BZN) VOR to the DUBOIS (DBS) VORTAC if the wind is 24 knots from 260 degrees and your intended True Air Speed is 185 knots? (The magnetic variation is 17deg. E)

A. 33 minutes
B. 37 minutes
C. 39 minutes

Now can you answer that question on your own? If so, maybe you’re right that W. is not an intelligent person. But the evidence proves you wrong.

[/quote]

you can’t answer that question without a map, or the distance between BZN and DBS.

Bush passed at the bottom of the acceptable score,

and he was taken off flight status, within 12 months.

No fighter pilot ever lets that happen without some ignominous circumstance.

[patb]

[quote=surveyor]hey fishsticks:

Obamatons who keep bringing up Bush as a justification for Obama’s short-comings do themselves no favors. It shows a lack of critical thinking and an unwillingness to acknowledge certain facts.

By the way, W was a fighter pilot. You don’t get to be a fighter pilot without intelligence. It isn’t a position that is given to you. You have to earn it by being competent to fly.

Here is a typical question on an exam that W. had to pass. W. had to answer 60 questions like this in order to qualify for flying.

What should be the approximate elapsed time from the BOSEMAN (BZN) VOR to the DUBOIS (DBS) VORTAC if the wind is 24 knots from 260 degrees and your intended True Air Speed is 185 knots? (The magnetic variation is 17deg. E)

A. 33 minutes
B. 37 minutes
C. 39 minutes

Now can you answer that question on your own? If so, maybe you’re right that W. is not an intelligent person. But the evidence proves you wrong.

[/quote]

you can’t answer that question without a map, or the distance between BZN and DBS.

Bush passed at the bottom of the acceptable score,

and he was taken off flight status, within 12 months.

No fighter pilot ever lets that happen without some ignominous circumstance.

[patb]

[quote=surveyor]hey fishsticks:

Obamatons who keep bringing up Bush as a justification for Obama’s short-comings do themselves no favors. It shows a lack of critical thinking and an unwillingness to acknowledge certain facts.

By the way, W was a fighter pilot. You don’t get to be a fighter pilot without intelligence. It isn’t a position that is given to you. You have to earn it by being competent to fly.

Here is a typical question on an exam that W. had to pass. W. had to answer 60 questions like this in order to qualify for flying.

What should be the approximate elapsed time from the BOSEMAN (BZN) VOR to the DUBOIS (DBS) VORTAC if the wind is 24 knots from 260 degrees and your intended True Air Speed is 185 knots? (The magnetic variation is 17deg. E)

A. 33 minutes
B. 37 minutes
C. 39 minutes

Now can you answer that question on your own? If so, maybe you’re right that W. is not an intelligent person. But the evidence proves you wrong.

[/quote]

you can’t answer that question without a map, or the distance between BZN and DBS.

Bush passed at the bottom of the acceptable score,

and he was taken off flight status, within 12 months.

No fighter pilot ever lets that happen without some ignominous circumstance.

[patb]

[quote=surveyor]hey fishsticks:

Obamatons who keep bringing up Bush as a justification for Obama’s short-comings do themselves no favors. It shows a lack of critical thinking and an unwillingness to acknowledge certain facts.

By the way, W was a fighter pilot. You don’t get to be a fighter pilot without intelligence. It isn’t a position that is given to you. You have to earn it by being competent to fly.

Here is a typical question on an exam that W. had to pass. W. had to answer 60 questions like this in order to qualify for flying.

What should be the approximate elapsed time from the BOSEMAN (BZN) VOR to the DUBOIS (DBS) VORTAC if the wind is 24 knots from 260 degrees and your intended True Air Speed is 185 knots? (The magnetic variation is 17deg. E)

A. 33 minutes
B. 37 minutes
C. 39 minutes

Now can you answer that question on your own? If so, maybe you’re right that W. is not an intelligent person. But the evidence proves you wrong.

[/quote]

you can’t answer that question without a map, or the distance between BZN and DBS.

Bush passed at the bottom of the acceptable score,

and he was taken off flight status, within 12 months.

No fighter pilot ever lets that happen without some ignominous circumstance.

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[quote=peterb]It’s a classic credit bubble deflating. Except this time, we have a historically gigantic public and private debt ratio to deflate. These things take many years to unwind. 11% of the population now recieves food stamps. U-6 unemployment is in the 20% range for the state and now the nation.

Global economic contraction is firmly in process now. But we’re also a very large welfare coutry now and will probably become more so in the future. I doubt there will be devistation, but the standards we’ve grown used to in the last 30 years are going to be for only the top few percent to enjoy.[/quote]

We had a credit bubble unwind in 1929 and in Japan in the 1990’s.
Now Unemployment hit 25% in 29, and floated around in Japan.
It’s a mess in japan, but it never became Apocalyptic.
It was a mess in 29 but it never became apocalyptic.

[patb]

[quote=peterb]It’s a classic credit bubble deflating. Except this time, we have a historically gigantic public and private debt ratio to deflate. These things take many years to unwind. 11% of the population now recieves food stamps. U-6 unemployment is in the 20% range for the state and now the nation.

Global economic contraction is firmly in process now. But we’re also a very large welfare coutry now and will probably become more so in the future. I doubt there will be devistation, but the standards we’ve grown used to in the last 30 years are going to be for only the top few percent to enjoy.[/quote]

We had a credit bubble unwind in 1929 and in Japan in the 1990’s.
Now Unemployment hit 25% in 29, and floated around in Japan.
It’s a mess in japan, but it never became Apocalyptic.
It was a mess in 29 but it never became apocalyptic.

[patb]

[quote=peterb]It’s a classic credit bubble deflating. Except this time, we have a historically gigantic public and private debt ratio to deflate. These things take many years to unwind. 11% of the population now recieves food stamps. U-6 unemployment is in the 20% range for the state and now the nation.

Global economic contraction is firmly in process now. But we’re also a very large welfare coutry now and will probably become more so in the future. I doubt there will be devistation, but the standards we’ve grown used to in the last 30 years are going to be for only the top few percent to enjoy.[/quote]

We had a credit bubble unwind in 1929 and in Japan in the 1990’s.
Now Unemployment hit 25% in 29, and floated around in Japan.
It’s a mess in japan, but it never became Apocalyptic.
It was a mess in 29 but it never became apocalyptic.

[patb]

[quote=peterb]It’s a classic credit bubble deflating. Except this time, we have a historically gigantic public and private debt ratio to deflate. These things take many years to unwind. 11% of the population now recieves food stamps. U-6 unemployment is in the 20% range for the state and now the nation.

Global economic contraction is firmly in process now. But we’re also a very large welfare coutry now and will probably become more so in the future. I doubt there will be devistation, but the standards we’ve grown used to in the last 30 years are going to be for only the top few percent to enjoy.[/quote]

We had a credit bubble unwind in 1929 and in Japan in the 1990’s.
Now Unemployment hit 25% in 29, and floated around in Japan.
It’s a mess in japan, but it never became Apocalyptic.
It was a mess in 29 but it never became apocalyptic.

[patb]

[quote=peterb]It’s a classic credit bubble deflating. Except this time, we have a historically gigantic public and private debt ratio to deflate. These things take many years to unwind. 11% of the population now recieves food stamps. U-6 unemployment is in the 20% range for the state and now the nation.

Global economic contraction is firmly in process now. But we’re also a very large welfare coutry now and will probably become more so in the future. I doubt there will be devistation, but the standards we’ve grown used to in the last 30 years are going to be for only the top few percent to enjoy.[/quote]

We had a credit bubble unwind in 1929 and in Japan in the 1990’s.
Now Unemployment hit 25% in 29, and floated around in Japan.
It’s a mess in japan, but it never became Apocalyptic.
It was a mess in 29 but it never became apocalyptic.

[patb]

I guess you never heard of a Grain silo or fuel terminal.
All you need is a silo operator to rent storage which is cheap,
and frankly how commodity’s speculation works now.

People buy futures contracts and sell futures contracts
and close out the position before delivery.

If i buy Octobers corn crop, i’m usually planning a november sell date
anyways. or vice versa, my contract sells before it needs to be moved.

There have been a lot of tankers sitting offshore all year waiting for
oil to rise, so, that’s cheap storage too. Just pay the Baltic dry index rate.

[patb]

I guess you never heard of a Grain silo or fuel terminal.
All you need is a silo operator to rent storage which is cheap,
and frankly how commodity’s speculation works now.

People buy futures contracts and sell futures contracts
and close out the position before delivery.

If i buy Octobers corn crop, i’m usually planning a november sell date
anyways. or vice versa, my contract sells before it needs to be moved.

There have been a lot of tankers sitting offshore all year waiting for
oil to rise, so, that’s cheap storage too. Just pay the Baltic dry index rate.

[patb]

I guess you never heard of a Grain silo or fuel terminal.
All you need is a silo operator to rent storage which is cheap,
and frankly how commodity’s speculation works now.

People buy futures contracts and sell futures contracts
and close out the position before delivery.

If i buy Octobers corn crop, i’m usually planning a november sell date
anyways. or vice versa, my contract sells before it needs to be moved.

There have been a lot of tankers sitting offshore all year waiting for
oil to rise, so, that’s cheap storage too. Just pay the Baltic dry index rate.

[patb]

I guess you never heard of a Grain silo or fuel terminal.
All you need is a silo operator to rent storage which is cheap,
and frankly how commodity’s speculation works now.

People buy futures contracts and sell futures contracts
and close out the position before delivery.

If i buy Octobers corn crop, i’m usually planning a november sell date
anyways. or vice versa, my contract sells before it needs to be moved.

There have been a lot of tankers sitting offshore all year waiting for
oil to rise, so, that’s cheap storage too. Just pay the Baltic dry index rate.

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