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June 20, 2009 at 6:19 PM #418791June 20, 2009 at 9:37 PM #418126
drboom
Participant[quote=surveyor]My proof lies in that his aility to fly a plane, pass the test and meet qualifications is proof of his intelligence. Those facts expose the lie that he is unintelligent.
[/quote]Randy Cunningham was a hell of a fighter pilot. He is one of only two American pilot aces in the Vietnam War.
He also did some things a little later that fairly reek of arrogant stupidity.
Now what’s your point again?
June 20, 2009 at 9:37 PM #418355Participant[quote=surveyor]My proof lies in that his aility to fly a plane, pass the test and meet qualifications is proof of his intelligence. Those facts expose the lie that he is unintelligent.
[/quote]Randy Cunningham was a hell of a fighter pilot. He is one of only two American pilot aces in the Vietnam War.
He also did some things a little later that fairly reek of arrogant stupidity.
Now what’s your point again?
June 20, 2009 at 9:37 PM #418618Participant[quote=surveyor]My proof lies in that his aility to fly a plane, pass the test and meet qualifications is proof of his intelligence. Those facts expose the lie that he is unintelligent.
[/quote]Randy Cunningham was a hell of a fighter pilot. He is one of only two American pilot aces in the Vietnam War.
He also did some things a little later that fairly reek of arrogant stupidity.
Now what’s your point again?
June 20, 2009 at 9:37 PM #418684Participant[quote=surveyor]My proof lies in that his aility to fly a plane, pass the test and meet qualifications is proof of his intelligence. Those facts expose the lie that he is unintelligent.
[/quote]Randy Cunningham was a hell of a fighter pilot. He is one of only two American pilot aces in the Vietnam War.
He also did some things a little later that fairly reek of arrogant stupidity.
Now what’s your point again?
June 20, 2009 at 9:37 PM #418845Participant[quote=surveyor]My proof lies in that his aility to fly a plane, pass the test and meet qualifications is proof of his intelligence. Those facts expose the lie that he is unintelligent.
[/quote]Randy Cunningham was a hell of a fighter pilot. He is one of only two American pilot aces in the Vietnam War.
He also did some things a little later that fairly reek of arrogant stupidity.
Now what’s your point again?
June 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM #418131EconProf
ParticipantPlenty of evidence can be mustered to prove that Bush and Obama have each done some stupid things in their lives, and each has done some smart things as well. But I’d like to argue that intelligence, in an IQ sense, is less important to being a good president than such things as character, ideology, and common sense. Perhaps the worst president since WW II was Jimmy Carter, who had IQ and character, but lacked judgement and leaned far left. And we now revere such middling minds as Truman and Eisenhower for their guts and organization skills at a time of testing for our nation.
Another observation about the Bush vs. Obama contest: Obama is charismatic and masterful as a speaker, while Bush talks like a hick. Many people can’t get past appearances in our American Idol culture, to Bush’s disadvantage. I suspect history will treat him more kindly than today’s chattering classes.June 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM #418360ParticipantPlenty of evidence can be mustered to prove that Bush and Obama have each done some stupid things in their lives, and each has done some smart things as well. But I’d like to argue that intelligence, in an IQ sense, is less important to being a good president than such things as character, ideology, and common sense. Perhaps the worst president since WW II was Jimmy Carter, who had IQ and character, but lacked judgement and leaned far left. And we now revere such middling minds as Truman and Eisenhower for their guts and organization skills at a time of testing for our nation.
Another observation about the Bush vs. Obama contest: Obama is charismatic and masterful as a speaker, while Bush talks like a hick. Many people can’t get past appearances in our American Idol culture, to Bush’s disadvantage. I suspect history will treat him more kindly than today’s chattering classes.June 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM #418623ParticipantPlenty of evidence can be mustered to prove that Bush and Obama have each done some stupid things in their lives, and each has done some smart things as well. But I’d like to argue that intelligence, in an IQ sense, is less important to being a good president than such things as character, ideology, and common sense. Perhaps the worst president since WW II was Jimmy Carter, who had IQ and character, but lacked judgement and leaned far left. And we now revere such middling minds as Truman and Eisenhower for their guts and organization skills at a time of testing for our nation.
Another observation about the Bush vs. Obama contest: Obama is charismatic and masterful as a speaker, while Bush talks like a hick. Many people can’t get past appearances in our American Idol culture, to Bush’s disadvantage. I suspect history will treat him more kindly than today’s chattering classes.June 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM #418689ParticipantPlenty of evidence can be mustered to prove that Bush and Obama have each done some stupid things in their lives, and each has done some smart things as well. But I’d like to argue that intelligence, in an IQ sense, is less important to being a good president than such things as character, ideology, and common sense. Perhaps the worst president since WW II was Jimmy Carter, who had IQ and character, but lacked judgement and leaned far left. And we now revere such middling minds as Truman and Eisenhower for their guts and organization skills at a time of testing for our nation.
Another observation about the Bush vs. Obama contest: Obama is charismatic and masterful as a speaker, while Bush talks like a hick. Many people can’t get past appearances in our American Idol culture, to Bush’s disadvantage. I suspect history will treat him more kindly than today’s chattering classes.June 20, 2009 at 9:40 PM #418849ParticipantPlenty of evidence can be mustered to prove that Bush and Obama have each done some stupid things in their lives, and each has done some smart things as well. But I’d like to argue that intelligence, in an IQ sense, is less important to being a good president than such things as character, ideology, and common sense. Perhaps the worst president since WW II was Jimmy Carter, who had IQ and character, but lacked judgement and leaned far left. And we now revere such middling minds as Truman and Eisenhower for their guts and organization skills at a time of testing for our nation.
Another observation about the Bush vs. Obama contest: Obama is charismatic and masterful as a speaker, while Bush talks like a hick. Many people can’t get past appearances in our American Idol culture, to Bush’s disadvantage. I suspect history will treat him more kindly than today’s chattering classes.June 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM #418146MicroGravity
ParticipantIf you ignore what they say, and just watch what they do, it gets really hard to tell any of these guys apart.
Bush championed one of the largest increases in govt. in decades, did little to end abortion…
Obama has yet to close Gitmo, hasn’t started any noticeable pull-back from Iraq…In the meantime, things like one of the largest transfers of wealth occurring with the banks borrowing our money at zero percent, and lending it back to us at 5.5 percent goes mostly unnoticed (with certain blogs excepted).
IMHO, I think they all get together at Old Ebbit Grill and just laugh their asses off at us bickering over all the razzle dazzle.
“I want to keep the Democrats out of my pocketbook and the Republicans out of my bedroom.”–unknown
June 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM #418375ParticipantIf you ignore what they say, and just watch what they do, it gets really hard to tell any of these guys apart.
Bush championed one of the largest increases in govt. in decades, did little to end abortion…
Obama has yet to close Gitmo, hasn’t started any noticeable pull-back from Iraq…In the meantime, things like one of the largest transfers of wealth occurring with the banks borrowing our money at zero percent, and lending it back to us at 5.5 percent goes mostly unnoticed (with certain blogs excepted).
IMHO, I think they all get together at Old Ebbit Grill and just laugh their asses off at us bickering over all the razzle dazzle.
“I want to keep the Democrats out of my pocketbook and the Republicans out of my bedroom.”–unknown
June 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM #418637ParticipantIf you ignore what they say, and just watch what they do, it gets really hard to tell any of these guys apart.
Bush championed one of the largest increases in govt. in decades, did little to end abortion…
Obama has yet to close Gitmo, hasn’t started any noticeable pull-back from Iraq…In the meantime, things like one of the largest transfers of wealth occurring with the banks borrowing our money at zero percent, and lending it back to us at 5.5 percent goes mostly unnoticed (with certain blogs excepted).
IMHO, I think they all get together at Old Ebbit Grill and just laugh their asses off at us bickering over all the razzle dazzle.
“I want to keep the Democrats out of my pocketbook and the Republicans out of my bedroom.”–unknown
June 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM #418705ParticipantIf you ignore what they say, and just watch what they do, it gets really hard to tell any of these guys apart.
Bush championed one of the largest increases in govt. in decades, did little to end abortion…
Obama has yet to close Gitmo, hasn’t started any noticeable pull-back from Iraq…In the meantime, things like one of the largest transfers of wealth occurring with the banks borrowing our money at zero percent, and lending it back to us at 5.5 percent goes mostly unnoticed (with certain blogs excepted).
IMHO, I think they all get together at Old Ebbit Grill and just laugh their asses off at us bickering over all the razzle dazzle.
“I want to keep the Democrats out of my pocketbook and the Republicans out of my bedroom.”–unknown
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