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Participant“pp-I agree with the basic premise of the report but where it goes wrong is when it talks about hyper-inflation. This is a big debate in the econ-dork world however I’m firmly in the deflation camp. They won’t have any luck trying to re-flate by normal means and the world won’t accept dollars if we just print to pay off debt. The most likely scenario is the dollar will lose reserve currency privilege. There has been increasing cry’s from around the world on this recently. Actually this will devalue the dollar as much as hyper-inflation just technically we will be having deflation with massive devaluing. Either way it’s third world really fast.
The head of the GAO put our a report late last year saying back then before the bailouts that we could not service our debt after 2009. I would assume after putting several trillion more on that has moved up to about early 2009.
The dollar is dead dead dead. No doubt about it.”I agree, A. The hyperinflation issue is one of much debate. I’m not saying — nor is this report saying — that the reflation efforts will work. They will most certainly fail. And the rest of the world will not accept dollars.
If the dollar is dead dead dead, as we both agree, then with what will we re-pay our debts? Our mints are even running low on gold. That is the problem here. You run up a tab of $50 trillion, and no one wants to take your money. The only option left is to default.
The reason to pay attention to the GEAB report is that they have been prescient about everything that has come to pass.
partypup
Participant“pp-I agree with the basic premise of the report but where it goes wrong is when it talks about hyper-inflation. This is a big debate in the econ-dork world however I’m firmly in the deflation camp. They won’t have any luck trying to re-flate by normal means and the world won’t accept dollars if we just print to pay off debt. The most likely scenario is the dollar will lose reserve currency privilege. There has been increasing cry’s from around the world on this recently. Actually this will devalue the dollar as much as hyper-inflation just technically we will be having deflation with massive devaluing. Either way it’s third world really fast.
The head of the GAO put our a report late last year saying back then before the bailouts that we could not service our debt after 2009. I would assume after putting several trillion more on that has moved up to about early 2009.
The dollar is dead dead dead. No doubt about it.”I agree, A. The hyperinflation issue is one of much debate. I’m not saying — nor is this report saying — that the reflation efforts will work. They will most certainly fail. And the rest of the world will not accept dollars.
If the dollar is dead dead dead, as we both agree, then with what will we re-pay our debts? Our mints are even running low on gold. That is the problem here. You run up a tab of $50 trillion, and no one wants to take your money. The only option left is to default.
The reason to pay attention to the GEAB report is that they have been prescient about everything that has come to pass.
partypup
Participant“pp-I agree with the basic premise of the report but where it goes wrong is when it talks about hyper-inflation. This is a big debate in the econ-dork world however I’m firmly in the deflation camp. They won’t have any luck trying to re-flate by normal means and the world won’t accept dollars if we just print to pay off debt. The most likely scenario is the dollar will lose reserve currency privilege. There has been increasing cry’s from around the world on this recently. Actually this will devalue the dollar as much as hyper-inflation just technically we will be having deflation with massive devaluing. Either way it’s third world really fast.
The head of the GAO put our a report late last year saying back then before the bailouts that we could not service our debt after 2009. I would assume after putting several trillion more on that has moved up to about early 2009.
The dollar is dead dead dead. No doubt about it.”I agree, A. The hyperinflation issue is one of much debate. I’m not saying — nor is this report saying — that the reflation efforts will work. They will most certainly fail. And the rest of the world will not accept dollars.
If the dollar is dead dead dead, as we both agree, then with what will we re-pay our debts? Our mints are even running low on gold. That is the problem here. You run up a tab of $50 trillion, and no one wants to take your money. The only option left is to default.
The reason to pay attention to the GEAB report is that they have been prescient about everything that has come to pass.
partypup
Participant“pp-I agree with the basic premise of the report but where it goes wrong is when it talks about hyper-inflation. This is a big debate in the econ-dork world however I’m firmly in the deflation camp. They won’t have any luck trying to re-flate by normal means and the world won’t accept dollars if we just print to pay off debt. The most likely scenario is the dollar will lose reserve currency privilege. There has been increasing cry’s from around the world on this recently. Actually this will devalue the dollar as much as hyper-inflation just technically we will be having deflation with massive devaluing. Either way it’s third world really fast.
The head of the GAO put our a report late last year saying back then before the bailouts that we could not service our debt after 2009. I would assume after putting several trillion more on that has moved up to about early 2009.
The dollar is dead dead dead. No doubt about it.”I agree, A. The hyperinflation issue is one of much debate. I’m not saying — nor is this report saying — that the reflation efforts will work. They will most certainly fail. And the rest of the world will not accept dollars.
If the dollar is dead dead dead, as we both agree, then with what will we re-pay our debts? Our mints are even running low on gold. That is the problem here. You run up a tab of $50 trillion, and no one wants to take your money. The only option left is to default.
The reason to pay attention to the GEAB report is that they have been prescient about everything that has come to pass.
partypup
Participant“BS”
Perhaps…I’m guessing you probably thought the likelihood of a global systemic crisis bringing Wall Street to its knees and bankrupting Iceland was “B.S.” two years ago. Yes?
In any event, GEAB has set forth quite a bit of evidence to support its argument.
Do you have any to support yours? Or is “BS” the extent of your analysis?
partypup
Participant“BS”
Perhaps…I’m guessing you probably thought the likelihood of a global systemic crisis bringing Wall Street to its knees and bankrupting Iceland was “B.S.” two years ago. Yes?
In any event, GEAB has set forth quite a bit of evidence to support its argument.
Do you have any to support yours? Or is “BS” the extent of your analysis?
partypup
Participant“BS”
Perhaps…I’m guessing you probably thought the likelihood of a global systemic crisis bringing Wall Street to its knees and bankrupting Iceland was “B.S.” two years ago. Yes?
In any event, GEAB has set forth quite a bit of evidence to support its argument.
Do you have any to support yours? Or is “BS” the extent of your analysis?
partypup
Participant“BS”
Perhaps…I’m guessing you probably thought the likelihood of a global systemic crisis bringing Wall Street to its knees and bankrupting Iceland was “B.S.” two years ago. Yes?
In any event, GEAB has set forth quite a bit of evidence to support its argument.
Do you have any to support yours? Or is “BS” the extent of your analysis?
partypup
Participant“BS”
Perhaps…I’m guessing you probably thought the likelihood of a global systemic crisis bringing Wall Street to its knees and bankrupting Iceland was “B.S.” two years ago. Yes?
In any event, GEAB has set forth quite a bit of evidence to support its argument.
Do you have any to support yours? Or is “BS” the extent of your analysis?
October 17, 2008 at 1:55 PM in reply to: OT: THE FIX IS IN: OBAMA SELECTED BY THE POWERS THAT BE #288900partypup
Participant“partypup,
McCain is lampooned more than Obama because he is a massive screwup. Just look at what he did last night in the debate. He made this ‘Joe’ the Plumber guy famous. McCain’s whole debate strategy was to paint Obama as a wealth redistributor because Obama was going to tax ‘Joe’ at a higher rate and give ‘Joe’s money to someone else.”Joe the Plumber is white noise. Under either candidate, our taxes are going to go sky high, so let’s get away from that red herring. The U.S. economy is DEAD.
The overblown Joe story — and McCain’s lack of eloquence, ownership of 10 houses and notoriously cranky nature — have no bearing whatsoever on Obama’s troublesome Freddie/Fannie contributions, Ayers, ACORN and Wright, the two (2) suits regarding his citizenship, caucus fraud…the list goes on. I’d say all of these are “screw-ups” of an even higher and more disturbing level.
Breeze, watch just 5 minutes of this documentary and tell me you aren’t concerned by what voters experienced during the 2008 Democratic primaries: http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/index.htm
Let’s be clear: I am not defending McCain; I am defending the process. I am simply questioning why the media is not doing its job and asking and pursuing the obvious questions about Obama. And I am also questioning why Democrats — like Republicans — will look the other way when abuse occurs, when suspicious circumstances abound — simply because *their* guy is in office.
I was enraged by Clinton’s perjury when I was Democrat, outraged by Bush’s fraud in 2000 and the ongoing 8 years of abuse of the Constitution, and I am appalled by Obama’s mis-deeds, associations with ACORN voter fraud and his ties to Rezko and a deeply-corrupt Chicago machine. I was once a Democrat. No more.
We need to look beyond party and start giving respect to the process.
October 17, 2008 at 1:55 PM in reply to: OT: THE FIX IS IN: OBAMA SELECTED BY THE POWERS THAT BE #289209partypup
Participant“partypup,
McCain is lampooned more than Obama because he is a massive screwup. Just look at what he did last night in the debate. He made this ‘Joe’ the Plumber guy famous. McCain’s whole debate strategy was to paint Obama as a wealth redistributor because Obama was going to tax ‘Joe’ at a higher rate and give ‘Joe’s money to someone else.”Joe the Plumber is white noise. Under either candidate, our taxes are going to go sky high, so let’s get away from that red herring. The U.S. economy is DEAD.
The overblown Joe story — and McCain’s lack of eloquence, ownership of 10 houses and notoriously cranky nature — have no bearing whatsoever on Obama’s troublesome Freddie/Fannie contributions, Ayers, ACORN and Wright, the two (2) suits regarding his citizenship, caucus fraud…the list goes on. I’d say all of these are “screw-ups” of an even higher and more disturbing level.
Breeze, watch just 5 minutes of this documentary and tell me you aren’t concerned by what voters experienced during the 2008 Democratic primaries: http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/index.htm
Let’s be clear: I am not defending McCain; I am defending the process. I am simply questioning why the media is not doing its job and asking and pursuing the obvious questions about Obama. And I am also questioning why Democrats — like Republicans — will look the other way when abuse occurs, when suspicious circumstances abound — simply because *their* guy is in office.
I was enraged by Clinton’s perjury when I was Democrat, outraged by Bush’s fraud in 2000 and the ongoing 8 years of abuse of the Constitution, and I am appalled by Obama’s mis-deeds, associations with ACORN voter fraud and his ties to Rezko and a deeply-corrupt Chicago machine. I was once a Democrat. No more.
We need to look beyond party and start giving respect to the process.
October 17, 2008 at 1:55 PM in reply to: OT: THE FIX IS IN: OBAMA SELECTED BY THE POWERS THAT BE #289218partypup
Participant“partypup,
McCain is lampooned more than Obama because he is a massive screwup. Just look at what he did last night in the debate. He made this ‘Joe’ the Plumber guy famous. McCain’s whole debate strategy was to paint Obama as a wealth redistributor because Obama was going to tax ‘Joe’ at a higher rate and give ‘Joe’s money to someone else.”Joe the Plumber is white noise. Under either candidate, our taxes are going to go sky high, so let’s get away from that red herring. The U.S. economy is DEAD.
The overblown Joe story — and McCain’s lack of eloquence, ownership of 10 houses and notoriously cranky nature — have no bearing whatsoever on Obama’s troublesome Freddie/Fannie contributions, Ayers, ACORN and Wright, the two (2) suits regarding his citizenship, caucus fraud…the list goes on. I’d say all of these are “screw-ups” of an even higher and more disturbing level.
Breeze, watch just 5 minutes of this documentary and tell me you aren’t concerned by what voters experienced during the 2008 Democratic primaries: http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/index.htm
Let’s be clear: I am not defending McCain; I am defending the process. I am simply questioning why the media is not doing its job and asking and pursuing the obvious questions about Obama. And I am also questioning why Democrats — like Republicans — will look the other way when abuse occurs, when suspicious circumstances abound — simply because *their* guy is in office.
I was enraged by Clinton’s perjury when I was Democrat, outraged by Bush’s fraud in 2000 and the ongoing 8 years of abuse of the Constitution, and I am appalled by Obama’s mis-deeds, associations with ACORN voter fraud and his ties to Rezko and a deeply-corrupt Chicago machine. I was once a Democrat. No more.
We need to look beyond party and start giving respect to the process.
October 17, 2008 at 1:55 PM in reply to: OT: THE FIX IS IN: OBAMA SELECTED BY THE POWERS THAT BE #289247partypup
Participant“partypup,
McCain is lampooned more than Obama because he is a massive screwup. Just look at what he did last night in the debate. He made this ‘Joe’ the Plumber guy famous. McCain’s whole debate strategy was to paint Obama as a wealth redistributor because Obama was going to tax ‘Joe’ at a higher rate and give ‘Joe’s money to someone else.”Joe the Plumber is white noise. Under either candidate, our taxes are going to go sky high, so let’s get away from that red herring. The U.S. economy is DEAD.
The overblown Joe story — and McCain’s lack of eloquence, ownership of 10 houses and notoriously cranky nature — have no bearing whatsoever on Obama’s troublesome Freddie/Fannie contributions, Ayers, ACORN and Wright, the two (2) suits regarding his citizenship, caucus fraud…the list goes on. I’d say all of these are “screw-ups” of an even higher and more disturbing level.
Breeze, watch just 5 minutes of this documentary and tell me you aren’t concerned by what voters experienced during the 2008 Democratic primaries: http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/index.htm
Let’s be clear: I am not defending McCain; I am defending the process. I am simply questioning why the media is not doing its job and asking and pursuing the obvious questions about Obama. And I am also questioning why Democrats — like Republicans — will look the other way when abuse occurs, when suspicious circumstances abound — simply because *their* guy is in office.
I was enraged by Clinton’s perjury when I was Democrat, outraged by Bush’s fraud in 2000 and the ongoing 8 years of abuse of the Constitution, and I am appalled by Obama’s mis-deeds, associations with ACORN voter fraud and his ties to Rezko and a deeply-corrupt Chicago machine. I was once a Democrat. No more.
We need to look beyond party and start giving respect to the process.
October 17, 2008 at 1:55 PM in reply to: OT: THE FIX IS IN: OBAMA SELECTED BY THE POWERS THAT BE #289250partypup
Participant“partypup,
McCain is lampooned more than Obama because he is a massive screwup. Just look at what he did last night in the debate. He made this ‘Joe’ the Plumber guy famous. McCain’s whole debate strategy was to paint Obama as a wealth redistributor because Obama was going to tax ‘Joe’ at a higher rate and give ‘Joe’s money to someone else.”Joe the Plumber is white noise. Under either candidate, our taxes are going to go sky high, so let’s get away from that red herring. The U.S. economy is DEAD.
The overblown Joe story — and McCain’s lack of eloquence, ownership of 10 houses and notoriously cranky nature — have no bearing whatsoever on Obama’s troublesome Freddie/Fannie contributions, Ayers, ACORN and Wright, the two (2) suits regarding his citizenship, caucus fraud…the list goes on. I’d say all of these are “screw-ups” of an even higher and more disturbing level.
Breeze, watch just 5 minutes of this documentary and tell me you aren’t concerned by what voters experienced during the 2008 Democratic primaries: http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/index.htm
Let’s be clear: I am not defending McCain; I am defending the process. I am simply questioning why the media is not doing its job and asking and pursuing the obvious questions about Obama. And I am also questioning why Democrats — like Republicans — will look the other way when abuse occurs, when suspicious circumstances abound — simply because *their* guy is in office.
I was enraged by Clinton’s perjury when I was Democrat, outraged by Bush’s fraud in 2000 and the ongoing 8 years of abuse of the Constitution, and I am appalled by Obama’s mis-deeds, associations with ACORN voter fraud and his ties to Rezko and a deeply-corrupt Chicago machine. I was once a Democrat. No more.
We need to look beyond party and start giving respect to the process.
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