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the higher the traffic speed the louder the noise. That street averages 50 MPH if not more at times. I say pull up a lawn chair at one of the corners one of these days and stay there for at least an hour to experience what it would be like for a long time to come.

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the higher the traffic speed the louder the noise. That street averages 50 MPH if not more at times. I say pull up a lawn chair at one of the corners one of these days and stay there for at least an hour to experience what it would be like for a long time to come.

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[quote=chrisM]There is no argueing than most state boundaries, especially in the Western states, make little economical, geographical or cultural sense. In this respect, there has been 51st state proposals that deserve consideration. I’m thinking in particular about the Delmarva Peninsula or the reunion of Eastern WA and the ID panhandle.

But clearly this is not the case here. A southern CA state with half of the central plain on the other side of the Tehachapi moutains but without LA??? This guy had to fail geography in elementary school to suggest such NONSENSE.

More seriously, if we were to start diving states purely along partisan lines, why just stop there? This is exactly the kind of centrifuge forces that, in the long run, would tear apart a nation that otherwise gets pride and strength from its diversity.[/quote]

this is really just gerrymandering on a grander scale.

I actually do see the logic behind partitioning of the state. but nice and even down the middle. leave it up to the politicians, you will always end up with a freakish monster.

and talk about state boundaries that do not make sense. most of the post-colonial Africa and Asia national boundaries do not make sense. At least people don’t die and wars are not fought over these illogical state boundaries.

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[quote=chrisM]There is no argueing than most state boundaries, especially in the Western states, make little economical, geographical or cultural sense. In this respect, there has been 51st state proposals that deserve consideration. I’m thinking in particular about the Delmarva Peninsula or the reunion of Eastern WA and the ID panhandle.

But clearly this is not the case here. A southern CA state with half of the central plain on the other side of the Tehachapi moutains but without LA??? This guy had to fail geography in elementary school to suggest such NONSENSE.

More seriously, if we were to start diving states purely along partisan lines, why just stop there? This is exactly the kind of centrifuge forces that, in the long run, would tear apart a nation that otherwise gets pride and strength from its diversity.[/quote]

this is really just gerrymandering on a grander scale.

I actually do see the logic behind partitioning of the state. but nice and even down the middle. leave it up to the politicians, you will always end up with a freakish monster.

and talk about state boundaries that do not make sense. most of the post-colonial Africa and Asia national boundaries do not make sense. At least people don’t die and wars are not fought over these illogical state boundaries.

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[quote=chrisM]There is no argueing than most state boundaries, especially in the Western states, make little economical, geographical or cultural sense. In this respect, there has been 51st state proposals that deserve consideration. I’m thinking in particular about the Delmarva Peninsula or the reunion of Eastern WA and the ID panhandle.

But clearly this is not the case here. A southern CA state with half of the central plain on the other side of the Tehachapi moutains but without LA??? This guy had to fail geography in elementary school to suggest such NONSENSE.

More seriously, if we were to start diving states purely along partisan lines, why just stop there? This is exactly the kind of centrifuge forces that, in the long run, would tear apart a nation that otherwise gets pride and strength from its diversity.[/quote]

this is really just gerrymandering on a grander scale.

I actually do see the logic behind partitioning of the state. but nice and even down the middle. leave it up to the politicians, you will always end up with a freakish monster.

and talk about state boundaries that do not make sense. most of the post-colonial Africa and Asia national boundaries do not make sense. At least people don’t die and wars are not fought over these illogical state boundaries.

[ocrenter]

[quote=chrisM]There is no argueing than most state boundaries, especially in the Western states, make little economical, geographical or cultural sense. In this respect, there has been 51st state proposals that deserve consideration. I’m thinking in particular about the Delmarva Peninsula or the reunion of Eastern WA and the ID panhandle.

But clearly this is not the case here. A southern CA state with half of the central plain on the other side of the Tehachapi moutains but without LA??? This guy had to fail geography in elementary school to suggest such NONSENSE.

More seriously, if we were to start diving states purely along partisan lines, why just stop there? This is exactly the kind of centrifuge forces that, in the long run, would tear apart a nation that otherwise gets pride and strength from its diversity.[/quote]

this is really just gerrymandering on a grander scale.

I actually do see the logic behind partitioning of the state. but nice and even down the middle. leave it up to the politicians, you will always end up with a freakish monster.

and talk about state boundaries that do not make sense. most of the post-colonial Africa and Asia national boundaries do not make sense. At least people don’t die and wars are not fought over these illogical state boundaries.

[ocrenter]

[quote=chrisM]There is no argueing than most state boundaries, especially in the Western states, make little economical, geographical or cultural sense. In this respect, there has been 51st state proposals that deserve consideration. I’m thinking in particular about the Delmarva Peninsula or the reunion of Eastern WA and the ID panhandle.

But clearly this is not the case here. A southern CA state with half of the central plain on the other side of the Tehachapi moutains but without LA??? This guy had to fail geography in elementary school to suggest such NONSENSE.

More seriously, if we were to start diving states purely along partisan lines, why just stop there? This is exactly the kind of centrifuge forces that, in the long run, would tear apart a nation that otherwise gets pride and strength from its diversity.[/quote]

this is really just gerrymandering on a grander scale.

I actually do see the logic behind partitioning of the state. but nice and even down the middle. leave it up to the politicians, you will always end up with a freakish monster.

and talk about state boundaries that do not make sense. most of the post-colonial Africa and Asia national boundaries do not make sense. At least people don’t die and wars are not fought over these illogical state boundaries.

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[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I sick of people who are ignorant of dogs.

Any dog can harm, with proper training it will NEVER attack. Understand

Nanny state, whinners!!!

NSD[/quote]

Now Union Tribune has devoted an entire front page article for people like you. The pit bull Bite Rate is at 8.85 bites per 100 pit bulls. The AVERAGE Bite Rate for most breeds? 1.5 bites per 100 dogs.

[img_assist|nid=15132|title=pit bulls|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=36|height=100]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/grappling-with-dog-bites/

[ocrenter]

[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I sick of people who are ignorant of dogs.

Any dog can harm, with proper training it will NEVER attack. Understand

Nanny state, whinners!!!

NSD[/quote]

Now Union Tribune has devoted an entire front page article for people like you. The pit bull Bite Rate is at 8.85 bites per 100 pit bulls. The AVERAGE Bite Rate for most breeds? 1.5 bites per 100 dogs.

[img_assist|nid=15132|title=pit bulls|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=36|height=100]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/grappling-with-dog-bites/

[ocrenter]

[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I sick of people who are ignorant of dogs.

Any dog can harm, with proper training it will NEVER attack. Understand

Nanny state, whinners!!!

NSD[/quote]

Now Union Tribune has devoted an entire front page article for people like you. The pit bull Bite Rate is at 8.85 bites per 100 pit bulls. The AVERAGE Bite Rate for most breeds? 1.5 bites per 100 dogs.

[img_assist|nid=15132|title=pit bulls|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=36|height=100]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/grappling-with-dog-bites/

[ocrenter]

[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I sick of people who are ignorant of dogs.

Any dog can harm, with proper training it will NEVER attack. Understand

Nanny state, whinners!!!

NSD[/quote]

Now Union Tribune has devoted an entire front page article for people like you. The pit bull Bite Rate is at 8.85 bites per 100 pit bulls. The AVERAGE Bite Rate for most breeds? 1.5 bites per 100 dogs.

[img_assist|nid=15132|title=pit bulls|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=36|height=100]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/grappling-with-dog-bites/

[ocrenter]

[quote=NewtoSanDiego]I sick of people who are ignorant of dogs.

Any dog can harm, with proper training it will NEVER attack. Understand

Nanny state, whinners!!!

NSD[/quote]

Now Union Tribune has devoted an entire front page article for people like you. The pit bull Bite Rate is at 8.85 bites per 100 pit bulls. The AVERAGE Bite Rate for most breeds? 1.5 bites per 100 dogs.

[img_assist|nid=15132|title=pit bulls|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=36|height=100]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/grappling-with-dog-bites/

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[quote=SD Realtor]There really is not a hard number that you can grasp. As you said, it will simply affect the number of buyers who will want to buy the home in the future. More important does it affect you? If you are not concerned with any safety issues or having to look at it every day, then that is half the battle. Personally it is not something I would put up with but that is just me. Housing is way to expensive to plunk down all that money and be that close to the power lines.[/quote]

well, the infamous Shadetree flipper house on the same street was on the market for at least couple of years. That one was slightly bigger, ended up selling for $850k. Looking around there’s one on Greenstone nearby backing up to Stonebridge, with powerline view, but further away, that one went for $820k.

This house by pictures is well upgraded. With upgraded granite in the kitchen, crown molding, built-in frig and I think built-in blinds too. with the pool in the back, I would venture around $200k worth of upgrades inside and out.

Now we also know Calabria homes are suppose to be of better quality compared to the current Serenity homes.

New Serenity homes, a whole bunch just closed for average of $950k. On dirt. These new Serenity home owners will likely need to spend another $150 to $200k in upgrades.

Meanwhile this fully ugraded Calabria home is sitting on the market for $850k. All because of that darn powerline.

Conclusion: people REALLY do not like powerlines.

If you don’t mind the powerlines, lowball for $800k and see what happens. They sound desperate. Just remember, you’ll be in the same shoes when you decide to sell.

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[quote=SD Realtor]There really is not a hard number that you can grasp. As you said, it will simply affect the number of buyers who will want to buy the home in the future. More important does it affect you? If you are not concerned with any safety issues or having to look at it every day, then that is half the battle. Personally it is not something I would put up with but that is just me. Housing is way to expensive to plunk down all that money and be that close to the power lines.[/quote]

well, the infamous Shadetree flipper house on the same street was on the market for at least couple of years. That one was slightly bigger, ended up selling for $850k. Looking around there’s one on Greenstone nearby backing up to Stonebridge, with powerline view, but further away, that one went for $820k.

This house by pictures is well upgraded. With upgraded granite in the kitchen, crown molding, built-in frig and I think built-in blinds too. with the pool in the back, I would venture around $200k worth of upgrades inside and out.

Now we also know Calabria homes are suppose to be of better quality compared to the current Serenity homes.

New Serenity homes, a whole bunch just closed for average of $950k. On dirt. These new Serenity home owners will likely need to spend another $150 to $200k in upgrades.

Meanwhile this fully ugraded Calabria home is sitting on the market for $850k. All because of that darn powerline.

Conclusion: people REALLY do not like powerlines.

If you don’t mind the powerlines, lowball for $800k and see what happens. They sound desperate. Just remember, you’ll be in the same shoes when you decide to sell.

[ocrenter]

[quote=SD Realtor]There really is not a hard number that you can grasp. As you said, it will simply affect the number of buyers who will want to buy the home in the future. More important does it affect you? If you are not concerned with any safety issues or having to look at it every day, then that is half the battle. Personally it is not something I would put up with but that is just me. Housing is way to expensive to plunk down all that money and be that close to the power lines.[/quote]

well, the infamous Shadetree flipper house on the same street was on the market for at least couple of years. That one was slightly bigger, ended up selling for $850k. Looking around there’s one on Greenstone nearby backing up to Stonebridge, with powerline view, but further away, that one went for $820k.

This house by pictures is well upgraded. With upgraded granite in the kitchen, crown molding, built-in frig and I think built-in blinds too. with the pool in the back, I would venture around $200k worth of upgrades inside and out.

Now we also know Calabria homes are suppose to be of better quality compared to the current Serenity homes.

New Serenity homes, a whole bunch just closed for average of $950k. On dirt. These new Serenity home owners will likely need to spend another $150 to $200k in upgrades.

Meanwhile this fully ugraded Calabria home is sitting on the market for $850k. All because of that darn powerline.

Conclusion: people REALLY do not like powerlines.

If you don’t mind the powerlines, lowball for $800k and see what happens. They sound desperate. Just remember, you’ll be in the same shoes when you decide to sell.

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