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[quote=briansd1]TG’s platform is a populist platform, with cosmetic surgery and porn thrown in.

Tightening the shit out of the borders won’t work and will never happen. Economic growth depends on continual immigration and new household formation. That’s what America is all about.[/quote]

GOP rhetoric on immigration enforcement have continued both with the candidates as well as the talk radio circle for the simple reason of trying to rally up the base.

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/perspectives/bored-border-patrol-proves-republican-rhetoric-overblown-1.2207142 “agents stationed along certain parts of the border are so bored that, in addition to falling asleep on the job, some now play video games or watch movies to pass the time.”

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[quote=briansd1]TG’s platform is a populist platform, with cosmetic surgery and porn thrown in.

Tightening the shit out of the borders won’t work and will never happen. Economic growth depends on continual immigration and new household formation. That’s what America is all about.[/quote]

GOP rhetoric on immigration enforcement have continued both with the candidates as well as the talk radio circle for the simple reason of trying to rally up the base.

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/perspectives/bored-border-patrol-proves-republican-rhetoric-overblown-1.2207142 “agents stationed along certain parts of the border are so bored that, in addition to falling asleep on the job, some now play video games or watch movies to pass the time.”

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[quote=recordsclerk]There is a remote chance that Serenity can drop to the high 700s. It will take more re-sale inventory like in the last 45 days. I just hope the listings keep coming. It also depends on what Toll Brother’s sells their homes for. They are having a VIP event on July 9 and will show the models for the first time. VIPs will have first pick at the lots released during this phase. I would assume the prices will be out that weekend also. I don’t see them undercutting Serenity in price, but the quality might be better for the same price.[/quote]

I always thought cheaper replacement developments such as serenity and montoro would go down into the 700k range, but they have really defied expectation. especially when these homes are absolutely so poorly constructed. but if you look in zillow, localguy is absolutely correct, these homes are finding buyers. a bunch of powerline view serenity homes actually went for $1 million earlier this year. (at the same time that some purchased much better Tiburon close outs for $1 million)

on the other hand, the replacement viscaya homes by city venture (the ones with minimal lots and slopes in back) did go into the mid-700k range. same thing with those davidson homes in late 08/early 09, 2-3 of them that had the same lot deficiencies also went for the mid-700k range.

this is why I wanted more specifics with kcal09. because some of what he “predicted” already happened, just not yet with serenity.

now if he is predicting fully loaded original resales from davidson, shea, and tiburon in the 700k, that would really be some way out on a limb prediction.

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[quote=recordsclerk]There is a remote chance that Serenity can drop to the high 700s. It will take more re-sale inventory like in the last 45 days. I just hope the listings keep coming. It also depends on what Toll Brother’s sells their homes for. They are having a VIP event on July 9 and will show the models for the first time. VIPs will have first pick at the lots released during this phase. I would assume the prices will be out that weekend also. I don’t see them undercutting Serenity in price, but the quality might be better for the same price.[/quote]

I always thought cheaper replacement developments such as serenity and montoro would go down into the 700k range, but they have really defied expectation. especially when these homes are absolutely so poorly constructed. but if you look in zillow, localguy is absolutely correct, these homes are finding buyers. a bunch of powerline view serenity homes actually went for $1 million earlier this year. (at the same time that some purchased much better Tiburon close outs for $1 million)

on the other hand, the replacement viscaya homes by city venture (the ones with minimal lots and slopes in back) did go into the mid-700k range. same thing with those davidson homes in late 08/early 09, 2-3 of them that had the same lot deficiencies also went for the mid-700k range.

this is why I wanted more specifics with kcal09. because some of what he “predicted” already happened, just not yet with serenity.

now if he is predicting fully loaded original resales from davidson, shea, and tiburon in the 700k, that would really be some way out on a limb prediction.

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[quote=recordsclerk]There is a remote chance that Serenity can drop to the high 700s. It will take more re-sale inventory like in the last 45 days. I just hope the listings keep coming. It also depends on what Toll Brother’s sells their homes for. They are having a VIP event on July 9 and will show the models for the first time. VIPs will have first pick at the lots released during this phase. I would assume the prices will be out that weekend also. I don’t see them undercutting Serenity in price, but the quality might be better for the same price.[/quote]

I always thought cheaper replacement developments such as serenity and montoro would go down into the 700k range, but they have really defied expectation. especially when these homes are absolutely so poorly constructed. but if you look in zillow, localguy is absolutely correct, these homes are finding buyers. a bunch of powerline view serenity homes actually went for $1 million earlier this year. (at the same time that some purchased much better Tiburon close outs for $1 million)

on the other hand, the replacement viscaya homes by city venture (the ones with minimal lots and slopes in back) did go into the mid-700k range. same thing with those davidson homes in late 08/early 09, 2-3 of them that had the same lot deficiencies also went for the mid-700k range.

this is why I wanted more specifics with kcal09. because some of what he “predicted” already happened, just not yet with serenity.

now if he is predicting fully loaded original resales from davidson, shea, and tiburon in the 700k, that would really be some way out on a limb prediction.

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[quote=recordsclerk]There is a remote chance that Serenity can drop to the high 700s. It will take more re-sale inventory like in the last 45 days. I just hope the listings keep coming. It also depends on what Toll Brother’s sells their homes for. They are having a VIP event on July 9 and will show the models for the first time. VIPs will have first pick at the lots released during this phase. I would assume the prices will be out that weekend also. I don’t see them undercutting Serenity in price, but the quality might be better for the same price.[/quote]

I always thought cheaper replacement developments such as serenity and montoro would go down into the 700k range, but they have really defied expectation. especially when these homes are absolutely so poorly constructed. but if you look in zillow, localguy is absolutely correct, these homes are finding buyers. a bunch of powerline view serenity homes actually went for $1 million earlier this year. (at the same time that some purchased much better Tiburon close outs for $1 million)

on the other hand, the replacement viscaya homes by city venture (the ones with minimal lots and slopes in back) did go into the mid-700k range. same thing with those davidson homes in late 08/early 09, 2-3 of them that had the same lot deficiencies also went for the mid-700k range.

this is why I wanted more specifics with kcal09. because some of what he “predicted” already happened, just not yet with serenity.

now if he is predicting fully loaded original resales from davidson, shea, and tiburon in the 700k, that would really be some way out on a limb prediction.

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[quote=recordsclerk]There is a remote chance that Serenity can drop to the high 700s. It will take more re-sale inventory like in the last 45 days. I just hope the listings keep coming. It also depends on what Toll Brother’s sells their homes for. They are having a VIP event on July 9 and will show the models for the first time. VIPs will have first pick at the lots released during this phase. I would assume the prices will be out that weekend also. I don’t see them undercutting Serenity in price, but the quality might be better for the same price.[/quote]

I always thought cheaper replacement developments such as serenity and montoro would go down into the 700k range, but they have really defied expectation. especially when these homes are absolutely so poorly constructed. but if you look in zillow, localguy is absolutely correct, these homes are finding buyers. a bunch of powerline view serenity homes actually went for $1 million earlier this year. (at the same time that some purchased much better Tiburon close outs for $1 million)

on the other hand, the replacement viscaya homes by city venture (the ones with minimal lots and slopes in back) did go into the mid-700k range. same thing with those davidson homes in late 08/early 09, 2-3 of them that had the same lot deficiencies also went for the mid-700k range.

this is why I wanted more specifics with kcal09. because some of what he “predicted” already happened, just not yet with serenity.

now if he is predicting fully loaded original resales from davidson, shea, and tiburon in the 700k, that would really be some way out on a limb prediction.

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[quote=earlyretirement]

Thanks! Yes, we’re really excited. I’m quite confident that prices will continue tp fall throughout this year and my offer reflected that. Yeah, the purchase price is a wee bit under a million bucks. But my realtor isn’t getting all of the commission.

Since I did all of the research and due diligence and I am a very experienced real estate investor, I told the realtor that I’d either go through Redfin or she could rebate the same amount as Redfin. So part of the commission will get rebated back to me at closing.

Really I think that is the direction of things to come heading into the next decade. I really think the more traditional realtor business model will change. I truly believe now that technology is so great and most of the information you can get online, people will move more towards that model.

I have several clients (investors) that have done the same thing. They have either approached a traditional realtor or went to the listing realtor and demanded a portion of the realtor’s fee to get credited at the closing. I really think more buyers need to do that. Of course it’s the buyer’s agent’s choice if they want to go along with that or not. But I can tell you there are plenty of agents out there that are willing to do this. This really is the direction the market is heading with all the technology out there.

Yeah, I agree that getting a hard copy is always good as it’s easier to read but I only worried about getting it quickly as I’m traveling around Hawaii this entire month.

I’m just waiting on the inspection this week. Hopefully everything goes ok with the inspection and if so…should be a quick closing in a few weeks.

Thanks to all of you that had such helpful information on Santaluz. We’re really looking forward to living there and being part of the community there.[/quote]

I agree, the 6% was from a bye gone era when realtors had exclusive copies of new listings that they would only share with their clients. Because they were the only ones with the guarded listing, they “did the research.” These days, most of us do our own search, do our own driving, and the majority of the realtors simply are reduced to filling out forms and delivering the keys.

I can certainly see a few realtors being able to keep that 6% model going by offering above and beyond service for a selected group of clients. but the great majority will have to go down the redfin/ziprealty route of a simple fee for filling forms and opening doors to targeted listings.

btw, as long as you know where you will be traveling, it should not be too hard to arrange FedEx 1-2 day service and get the hard copy paperwork.

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[quote=earlyretirement]

Thanks! Yes, we’re really excited. I’m quite confident that prices will continue tp fall throughout this year and my offer reflected that. Yeah, the purchase price is a wee bit under a million bucks. But my realtor isn’t getting all of the commission.

Since I did all of the research and due diligence and I am a very experienced real estate investor, I told the realtor that I’d either go through Redfin or she could rebate the same amount as Redfin. So part of the commission will get rebated back to me at closing.

Really I think that is the direction of things to come heading into the next decade. I really think the more traditional realtor business model will change. I truly believe now that technology is so great and most of the information you can get online, people will move more towards that model.

I have several clients (investors) that have done the same thing. They have either approached a traditional realtor or went to the listing realtor and demanded a portion of the realtor’s fee to get credited at the closing. I really think more buyers need to do that. Of course it’s the buyer’s agent’s choice if they want to go along with that or not. But I can tell you there are plenty of agents out there that are willing to do this. This really is the direction the market is heading with all the technology out there.

Yeah, I agree that getting a hard copy is always good as it’s easier to read but I only worried about getting it quickly as I’m traveling around Hawaii this entire month.

I’m just waiting on the inspection this week. Hopefully everything goes ok with the inspection and if so…should be a quick closing in a few weeks.

Thanks to all of you that had such helpful information on Santaluz. We’re really looking forward to living there and being part of the community there.[/quote]

I agree, the 6% was from a bye gone era when realtors had exclusive copies of new listings that they would only share with their clients. Because they were the only ones with the guarded listing, they “did the research.” These days, most of us do our own search, do our own driving, and the majority of the realtors simply are reduced to filling out forms and delivering the keys.

I can certainly see a few realtors being able to keep that 6% model going by offering above and beyond service for a selected group of clients. but the great majority will have to go down the redfin/ziprealty route of a simple fee for filling forms and opening doors to targeted listings.

btw, as long as you know where you will be traveling, it should not be too hard to arrange FedEx 1-2 day service and get the hard copy paperwork.

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[quote=earlyretirement]

Thanks! Yes, we’re really excited. I’m quite confident that prices will continue tp fall throughout this year and my offer reflected that. Yeah, the purchase price is a wee bit under a million bucks. But my realtor isn’t getting all of the commission.

Since I did all of the research and due diligence and I am a very experienced real estate investor, I told the realtor that I’d either go through Redfin or she could rebate the same amount as Redfin. So part of the commission will get rebated back to me at closing.

Really I think that is the direction of things to come heading into the next decade. I really think the more traditional realtor business model will change. I truly believe now that technology is so great and most of the information you can get online, people will move more towards that model.

I have several clients (investors) that have done the same thing. They have either approached a traditional realtor or went to the listing realtor and demanded a portion of the realtor’s fee to get credited at the closing. I really think more buyers need to do that. Of course it’s the buyer’s agent’s choice if they want to go along with that or not. But I can tell you there are plenty of agents out there that are willing to do this. This really is the direction the market is heading with all the technology out there.

Yeah, I agree that getting a hard copy is always good as it’s easier to read but I only worried about getting it quickly as I’m traveling around Hawaii this entire month.

I’m just waiting on the inspection this week. Hopefully everything goes ok with the inspection and if so…should be a quick closing in a few weeks.

Thanks to all of you that had such helpful information on Santaluz. We’re really looking forward to living there and being part of the community there.[/quote]

I agree, the 6% was from a bye gone era when realtors had exclusive copies of new listings that they would only share with their clients. Because they were the only ones with the guarded listing, they “did the research.” These days, most of us do our own search, do our own driving, and the majority of the realtors simply are reduced to filling out forms and delivering the keys.

I can certainly see a few realtors being able to keep that 6% model going by offering above and beyond service for a selected group of clients. but the great majority will have to go down the redfin/ziprealty route of a simple fee for filling forms and opening doors to targeted listings.

btw, as long as you know where you will be traveling, it should not be too hard to arrange FedEx 1-2 day service and get the hard copy paperwork.

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[quote=earlyretirement]

Thanks! Yes, we’re really excited. I’m quite confident that prices will continue tp fall throughout this year and my offer reflected that. Yeah, the purchase price is a wee bit under a million bucks. But my realtor isn’t getting all of the commission.

Since I did all of the research and due diligence and I am a very experienced real estate investor, I told the realtor that I’d either go through Redfin or she could rebate the same amount as Redfin. So part of the commission will get rebated back to me at closing.

Really I think that is the direction of things to come heading into the next decade. I really think the more traditional realtor business model will change. I truly believe now that technology is so great and most of the information you can get online, people will move more towards that model.

I have several clients (investors) that have done the same thing. They have either approached a traditional realtor or went to the listing realtor and demanded a portion of the realtor’s fee to get credited at the closing. I really think more buyers need to do that. Of course it’s the buyer’s agent’s choice if they want to go along with that or not. But I can tell you there are plenty of agents out there that are willing to do this. This really is the direction the market is heading with all the technology out there.

Yeah, I agree that getting a hard copy is always good as it’s easier to read but I only worried about getting it quickly as I’m traveling around Hawaii this entire month.

I’m just waiting on the inspection this week. Hopefully everything goes ok with the inspection and if so…should be a quick closing in a few weeks.

Thanks to all of you that had such helpful information on Santaluz. We’re really looking forward to living there and being part of the community there.[/quote]

I agree, the 6% was from a bye gone era when realtors had exclusive copies of new listings that they would only share with their clients. Because they were the only ones with the guarded listing, they “did the research.” These days, most of us do our own search, do our own driving, and the majority of the realtors simply are reduced to filling out forms and delivering the keys.

I can certainly see a few realtors being able to keep that 6% model going by offering above and beyond service for a selected group of clients. but the great majority will have to go down the redfin/ziprealty route of a simple fee for filling forms and opening doors to targeted listings.

btw, as long as you know where you will be traveling, it should not be too hard to arrange FedEx 1-2 day service and get the hard copy paperwork.

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[quote=earlyretirement]

Thanks! Yes, we’re really excited. I’m quite confident that prices will continue tp fall throughout this year and my offer reflected that. Yeah, the purchase price is a wee bit under a million bucks. But my realtor isn’t getting all of the commission.

Since I did all of the research and due diligence and I am a very experienced real estate investor, I told the realtor that I’d either go through Redfin or she could rebate the same amount as Redfin. So part of the commission will get rebated back to me at closing.

Really I think that is the direction of things to come heading into the next decade. I really think the more traditional realtor business model will change. I truly believe now that technology is so great and most of the information you can get online, people will move more towards that model.

I have several clients (investors) that have done the same thing. They have either approached a traditional realtor or went to the listing realtor and demanded a portion of the realtor’s fee to get credited at the closing. I really think more buyers need to do that. Of course it’s the buyer’s agent’s choice if they want to go along with that or not. But I can tell you there are plenty of agents out there that are willing to do this. This really is the direction the market is heading with all the technology out there.

Yeah, I agree that getting a hard copy is always good as it’s easier to read but I only worried about getting it quickly as I’m traveling around Hawaii this entire month.

I’m just waiting on the inspection this week. Hopefully everything goes ok with the inspection and if so…should be a quick closing in a few weeks.

Thanks to all of you that had such helpful information on Santaluz. We’re really looking forward to living there and being part of the community there.[/quote]

I agree, the 6% was from a bye gone era when realtors had exclusive copies of new listings that they would only share with their clients. Because they were the only ones with the guarded listing, they “did the research.” These days, most of us do our own search, do our own driving, and the majority of the realtors simply are reduced to filling out forms and delivering the keys.

I can certainly see a few realtors being able to keep that 6% model going by offering above and beyond service for a selected group of clients. but the great majority will have to go down the redfin/ziprealty route of a simple fee for filling forms and opening doors to targeted listings.

btw, as long as you know where you will be traveling, it should not be too hard to arrange FedEx 1-2 day service and get the hard copy paperwork.

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[quote=kcal09]…the Serenity homes.[/quote]

new or resale?

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[quote=kcal09]…the Serenity homes.[/quote]

new or resale?

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[quote=kcal09]…the Serenity homes.[/quote]

new or resale?

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